Medicinal Garden [WhiteWidoW] 6clones-Outdoor Monsters in ground w/ Organic soil(PIX)

so i wanted to start a discussion with u guys about removing the fans leafs. i talked to cruzer and gto a lil about it but wanted to get sum other imput also.

ive read not to remove healthy green fan leaves. but also seen the lollipop method done for colas.
then ive read that removing leafs can stress the plant during flowering but small amounts of stress have been shown to increase thc levels not exactly bud size. also the theory behind removing the fan leaf is to let more sunlight shine thru to the buds? most likely just the popcorn in the middle and lower portiion since the top colas are pretty much in the open canopy.
anyways ll opinions welcome thanks guys.


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hmm... i think i have a game coming up
you think i can borrow one of those baseball bats

sweeeeeeeetness

Let me star by saying your plants are amazing already...Im thinking of the whole "if its not broke, dont fix it" theory. But my experience has been this....My OD plants got topped and lollipopped by mother nature, and my buds look way better then the ones from this same strain that my bubby grew last year. I have less weight for sure, but the nugs look waaaay more resinous. I also trim the fan leaves from my ID setup every few weeks. Its only to let the light in, but it helps with air circulation as well. Im sure everyone has there own opinion, but I dont think removing fan leaves is a bad thing. the pics below are the before and after of my "trimming" of the fan leaves.

i've read it's a shot in the foot, you remove the fan leaves for sunlight, but the fan leaves get the sun light, and do photosynthesis. so really its an adverse effect, so i wouldn't do it, if anything i'd consent to some veteran growers, go to barnes and noble or borders (or a book store) and they sell books on growing weed in gardening section. and read them, i use to do it all the time. its free!

if you remove one large leaf (thats taking alot of plant energy to grow) and cut it away to give light to 2 or 3 smaller leaves that will get just as big as the first leaf, its not hurting the plant. the large fan leaves are the first to fall off when the plant is grown without help. im not saying go crazy and cut a bunch of leaves off, there is a strategy to which ones should be removed.

strictly seedleSs said:

if you remove one large leaf (thats taking alot of plant energy to grow) and cut it away to give light to 2 or 3 smaller leaves that will get just as big as the first leaf, its not hurting the plant. the large fan leaves are the first to fall off when the plant is grown without help. im not saying go crazy and cut a bunch of leaves off, there is a strategy to which ones should be removed.

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well put and on PAR

hmm good info and theories im still kinda in the middle. ahha but true like in nature if it aint broke dont fix it makes sense too but science always does weird shit to maximize potential sooo... hmm

heyguy901 said:

go to barnes and noble or borders (or a book store) and they sell books on growing weed in gardening section. and read them, i use to do it all the time. its free!

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haha nice. I used to do that too. Then I found out my buddy has almost every growbook ever written downloaded to his terabyte hard drive. Now I have every grow book ever written, hehe. Not that I have much time to read them, but it's nice they're there. BTW yes I feel bad that the individuals who wrote them don't get anything, but really I never would I have bought the books anyways.

I've also seen a lot of opinions and "evidence" from both sides of the trimming issue, and I'm not sure there is any way to decipher it. It was my most often asked question when I first started. Now I just cut anything that's not green and leave the rest. I know that doesn't really help but I thought I should mention since it's what your talking about.

Update pics are sick. I def got a lot to learn. Hey that shade tarp...what's it there for? Is it to give shade on that side only because that's where the sun is during the hottest part of the day? Maybe a dumb question but I don't read much about outdoor grows yet cause I've focused on indoor. Thanks

thanks for the tip ya im kinda just leanin towards leaving the green shit alone for now. prob do a huge fan leaf removal a day or two before i cut em down to help with the trimming process.

but ya the shade mesh shit was my first gameplan to help shield and hide my grow op but i soon learned my babies grew too tall for it and too wide so i gave up on it and said fuk it if my neighbors know oh well. i got security like crazy and my shit is legal so im covered. but ya i need to take down the bakside maybe help let sum more sunlght thru even tho only got like 3 weeks left

just tryin to plan shit out in advance and gettin sum imput from experianced harvesters. last year my old grow site got jacked so i never did a successful harvest. hoping it doesnt happen again

butttt im weighing my options where to cut and dry then to cure or not to cure lol.

i have a garden tool shed thats big enough for all my bud and was thinkin bout clearin out half of it and cleanin it out sum and hanging sum string to let the trimmed buds dry. i can lock it down and adjust mycameras there also. or do it in the attic? (worried about heat build up tho and smell leaking into my parents house which wont fly lol) -so no closet dryin either. so im thinkin the shed? i got a fan to put inside also and a digi thermometer to monitor temps and humidity.

now for curing ive seen most peeps and been told to use mason jars. id like to ask why tho? would any other sealed container work and burp it a couple times a day and rotate buds around for even drying? orrr do these mason jars have sum special power or just look cool cuz theyre clear? lol
jw cuz if im lucky enough to pull the 6lbs im shootin for then idk wtf to put all that in jars mang... so let me know wat u guys think. thanks

LOL the magic is in the glass.

Honestly I have not used anything else. I have heard of people using rubber maid tubs and getting a funny smell to it though. I assume it would cure in plastic bags.

To cure or not to cure is a definitely cure. Is a good chance your weed will take on a "cut grass" or "hay" smell the first few days. Sometimes this smell stays with the weed. I found by curing it the smell changes to da dank.

I realize you got a boat load of this shit and its not going to be easy but you can pick up a case of the larger mason jars at like wally mart for under $20

If you ask me I say its worth every penny.

Curing is a must for my personal smoke, but if its going to other patients that dont want to wait then just do a 4 day air dry. If you do it in the shed, make sure you have an exhaust fan for the humidity that going to build up. growing is only half the war....trimming and drying is a battle all on its own.

I read one post where a guy cured his bud in plastic tupperware and some in glass. He said that the bud cured in plastic had a much weaker effect when he smoked it, and that he would never cure in plastic again. I also remember reading something about the static charge that plastic can carry affects the trichomes somehow. Also plastics are just in general bad due for environmental reasons. Glass is the way to go. Costs more, but worth it.

eigh eigh...... where did I put that thread about WHY glass is so kick ass???? damn..... oh well..... long story short....

glass is far superior to just about anything else I have seen (bags, boxes, trunk, microwave, etc. etc.)

i cruised by walmart today and found a selection to choose from of glass jars. the bigger ones are like $6 each and one is sealed with a rubber gromet and clamps down. the other just screws on tight. the big big one is just a glass lid that sits on top? idk if that one will fly?
then teres the bulk pack its 12 quart sized screw top jars for $10.

the medium sized single selling jars are a pint or sum shit. so just trying to figure out my best route to go....


also lookin into ordering sum hash mesh bags from ebay. like $60 and should be worth the investment...

Yea, it was the quart ones I saw. I think thats the best deal and they will work fine.
I am gonna have to get a case myself pretty soon. I got 4 of those big ones. 2 quart maybe?
Anyway, those quart jars are square too, best deal.

I got a set of decanters too, the things you put sugar, coffee, flour and shit in and keep on the sink.
Those have seals too. I got a set of black ones for like $10 the smallest one is my fav. stach container.
I store shit in the others.

Good to be prepaired man.

Kerr jars are The Shit

the lid should pop for the first 3 or four days every time you open it.... hence the term "burping"....... those are the best in what you have, the ones with the rubber seals are your next best bet. The kerr jars seal completely, no leaks.... the ones with the seals, the seals will wear down over a period of time, and they require maintenance, leak etc. I have also noticed that sometimes the jars with the seals will effect the smell and taste.

Kerr sells larger jars...... just gotta find em

http://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=27

got some of those too for the bigger nuggets that won't fit in the smaller kerr jars

thansk dragon and cruzer ya im gonna keep shoppin around to see if i can find the "kerr" jars in a bigger size then but ill just hvae to stock up with like 5 or 6 case of the quart jars then if thats enough