Max annual yield???

OK, I'm hearing stories about what guys are yielding that sounds like they ought to be telling me how big the fish was that they caught.

By my estimation this is pretty much how the math breaks down.

Suppose you grow an 8 week flowering Indica strain in perpetual harvest. That gives six harvests per year.

So, for each 12 you have 4 in clone, 4 in veg and 4 in flower. Plants of this age should yield 1-2 oz per plant. 4 plants harvested gives 8oz X 6 harvests gives 48oz max per year.

Obviously, if you veg for twice as long you get more per plant but fewer harvests. So what does your math look like?

A plant vegged from clone over 8 weeks and grown properly would yield much over 2 oz.
A plant with no veg time should yield around 1 oz.

McFonz said:

A plant vegged from clone over 8 weeks and grown properly would yield much over 2 oz.
A plant with no veg time should yield around 1 oz.

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The plant would be 8 weeks from the time it was cut if you take them when you rotate. From my experience, it takes a few weeks for a cutting to take root and produce any appreciable growth. At 8 weeks a cut would be a pretty small plant.

Is your experience different?

I do something very similar except my 4 in flower and 4 in veg is a month apart which allows me to harvest 2 plants a month. As for clones, I'm always cloning so clones are always ready. Once a cutting is rooted I put in veg then after the third node I top once and then lst and veg it for 8 weeks. It's about 20" tall with over 20 tops by the time it goes into flower. In flower it gets to about 3 ft or more and yields 5-6 ounces a plant (depending on strain) at 2 plants per month. After harvest the next 2 in veg goes into flower and 2 from the cloner goes in veg.

WSRidahs said:

I do something very similar except my 4 in flower and 4 in veg is a month apart which allows me to harvest 2 plants a month. As for clones, I'm always cloning so clones are always ready. Once a cutting is rooted I put in veg then after the third node I top once and then lst and veg it for 8 weeks. It's about 20" tall with over 20 tops by the time it goes into flower. In flower it gets to about 3 ft or more and yields 5-6 ounces a plant (depending on strain) at 2 plants per month. After harvest the next 2 in veg goes into flower and 2 from the cloner goes in veg.

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I'm confused. Do you keep any kind of journal? You start 4 clones and let them root fully, that takes what about 3 weeks? Then you veg them for 8 weeks so that is 11 weeks, then flower for 8 to make 19 weeks.

Are you saying you rotate two at a time? What do you mean by a month apart?

Can you break that down for me?

So many variables... In the space I have to flower (perpetual system) I am trying to get to 2 oz per plant from 6 plants (12 oz), and 1/2 oz per plant from a 24 plant sog for another 12 oz. Just doing some rough head math I think I figured it was just under 10 lbs a year. This is from a 4'x4' flower area, and a veg area of the same size. This also assumes 2/3 of our strains are 8-9 weeks, and 1/3 are 11-12 week (which is roughly what I average).

If you are good at what you do, a fair average is 3-4 ounces per plant. I have gotten 6 from one plant indoors, but most of the time count on 3-4 ounces per plant.

But like so many people say (and they are right), there are too many variables.

If I get 3-4 ounces per plant with 6 plants under each light, that is doing pretty well. If you had 4 plants under the same light, 5-6 ounces per plant perhaps. Put 12 plants under that same light, and get 1-2 ounces per plant. Kind of like that.

Good luck! And I would say that I would guess on 5 harvests per year. Maybe 6 if you have fast finishing strains.

RickWhite said:

I'm confused. Do you keep any kind of journal? You start 4 clones and let them root fully, that takes what about 3 weeks? Then you veg them for 8 weeks so that is 11 weeks, then flower for 8 to make 19 weeks.

Are you saying you rotate two at a time? What do you mean by a month apart?

Can you break that down for me?

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I always have clones in the cloner. I keep what I need and give the rest away. As for veg, I always have 4 in veg with 2 that's a month apart. In flower, I also have 4 plants with 2 that's a month apart. So total of 8 plants in different stages of growth. At harvest time, I harvest 2 plants and then at that same time 2 plants from veg would have just finished off week 8 and then get moved to flower. 2 from the cloner will then get moved to veg to start week 1 behind the other 2 plants in veg that will be going on week 5. The other 2 plants in flower would be going on 5 weeks. This allows me to harvest 2 plants per month. I try to only grow plants with 8 week flowering times. So basically, 4 plants in veg and 4 plants in flower. Each pair from veg and flower are on the same week of growth. So if 2 from veg is on week 1 the 2 from flower will be in week 1. The other 2 in veg will be in week 5 and the other 2 in flower will be in week 5.

RickWhite said:

OK, I'm hearing stories about what guys are yielding that sounds like they ought to be telling me how big the fish was that they caught.

By my estimation this is pretty much how the math breaks down.

Suppose you grow an 8 week flowering Indica strain in perpetual harvest. That gives six harvests per year.

So, for each 12 you have 4 in clone, 4 in veg and 4 in flower. Plants of this age should yield 1-2 oz per plant. 4 plants harvested gives 8oz X 6 harvests gives 48oz max per year.

Obviously, if you veg for twice as long you get more per plant but fewer harvests. So what does your math look like?

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in that hypothetical situation you described you might get that, but its easy to beat that if you do it a little different, your scenario leaves too many variables out as well. Read this from al b fuct
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html

you actually give 8 weeks for the clones and 8 weeks for veg.
My clones usually catch up in a week to 10 days.
If you have 16 weeks from cutting to flowering (which is what you have if you flower 4 plants each time) you can get it to a tree size.

I would actually flower 6 plants and veg 6 at a time rather than splitting it into 3 sections.
8 weeks veg is more than enough for me.

If you run a 1K light you should be able to pull 700 grams or so per cicle, in both ways. If you know your shit you could pull more.

If he has a legal grow he might have plant limits he's trying to follow. That's the reason I grow the way I do.

I think 16 week veg is more than enough for a 4 plant grow with a 1000W or so. (enough means you should be able to score 800-900 grams with proper yielding strain, or more if you know your stuff)

My clones root and get potted within 10 days.

The thing I'm getting at is how much one can harvest as a funtion of time.

Obviously, if one goes from clone straight to flower, they will harvest less per plant but maybe squeez in another harvest per year.

What can a person expect to yield from 4 plants grown in 16 week cycles from cutting to harvest? Because obviously, a perpetual SOG will only be flowering 4 of 12 at a time.

I think in 16 weeks, one can harvest probably an OZ per plant. So if you harvest 4 plants for a patient, you might end up with 4 oz which would come to 2 oz per month if you harvest after 8 weeks flowering.

With enough light I'd say at least 2lb. (enough means 4x600W in this situation)

The real question is how much light do you have. WIth the proper lighting, conditions, and veg time you can yeild 3-4 lbs per plant (i am only talking 5 weeks of veg). Obviously that is if you have 40k and plenty of space to drop on your system. SO how much light/how many plants.

I would bet my anal virginity its no one yielded 4 lbs from a plant that went 5 weeks in veg and 8 weeks in flowering.

RickWhite said:

The thing I'm getting at is how much one can harvest as a funtion of time.

Obviously, if one goes from clone straight to flower, they will harvest less per plant but maybe squeez in another harvest per year.

What can a person expect to yield from 4 plants grown in 16 week cycles from cutting to harvest? Because obviously, a perpetual SOG will only be flowering 4 of 12 at a time.

I think in 16 weeks, one can harvest probably an OZ per plant. So if you harvest 4 plants for a patient, you might end up with 4 oz which would come to 2 oz per month if you harvest after 8 weeks flowering.

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Why do you say 16 weeks for each harvest? Do you not have plants vegging at the same time you have plants in flower? That way when you harvest you have plants ready to go into flower immediately. I'm assuming you have only one room and you veg and flower in the same room. Is that right? If you're trying to get more for your patient then you should have a veg and a flower room. Like I said in my earlier post, I harvest 2 plants a month with my flowering plants and veg plants a month apart. I get 5-6 oz per plant. Goal is 8 oz a plant which would give me a pound a month. I think I might hit my goal on my next harvest. I stick to 8 week flowering strains. I veg under a 600 watt sun master mh and used to flower under a 600 watt hortilux hps and 400 watt hortilux blue with a total of 1000 watts but I recently upgraded the 600 hps to a 1000 hps so now I have a total of 1400 watts.

RickWhite said:

OK, I'm hearing stories about what guys are yielding that sounds like they ought to be telling me how big the fish was that they caught.

By my estimation this is pretty much how the math breaks down.

Suppose you grow an 8 week flowering Indica strain in perpetual harvest. That gives six harvests per year.

So, for each 12 you have 4 in clone, 4 in veg and 4 in flower. Plants of this age should yield 1-2 oz per plant. 4 plants harvested gives 8oz X 6 harvests gives 48oz max per year.

Obviously, if you veg for twice as long you get more per plant but fewer harvests. So what does your math look like?

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Man my math looks nothin like that and I only get 5 harvest a year. Sometimes it takes me a while to trim and clean everything for the next round. I have been trimming for two weeks straight for this round. So sayin you will get 6 harvest a year is tough to do. But to fuck up your numbers some more.... you say you should get 48 ozs a year???? I got 40 ounces of 6 plants on my last run, using a 1000w on a light rail. So yea......No one grow is the same.

4X4 tray = 4 lbs dry every 8 weeks 6 times a year per tray with everything in my grow being perfect.

I get 17-30 gram dried per plant average (dependent on strain) and grow 55-64 plants per 4X4 tray. I try to get 64 plants in but sometimes I am short. Takes 30 grams per plant to get those crazy yields and I can only get that with Chronic White Widow. Happy to post some pics if anyone wants to see them. Most strains I can get 22-25 average which still puts it at 3 lbs every 8 weeks. I have a 4X8 tray as well but can never get enough cuttings ready to switch all at once. Usually can only do 70-80 at once instead of 128 I would like to get. Yields are not as high on this tray because of this.

I grow very little veg in separate T5 vegging tray and switch them when they are 6-8 inches. Clones I cut start at only 4 inches. Once they are 6-8 inches they are in a fast growing veg state perfect for switching small. Switching too fast can cause yield to be 50% less or even more I have found. My clones take 7-10 days to root and about 2-3 more weeks from there before they get switched so only about weeks total.

Oh and I remove ALL fan leaves at week 3 of bloom, controversial but works very well for me and other high yielding growers. If you can get almost 2 grams per watt it cant be too bad for the plants =)