Hello everyone I am making this to show a real comparison of this 2 companies, I dont work for them or anything related. MARS SETUP: - Mars II 900w - 80x80x170cm - Humus, guano and sugars for feeding - 5 Plants each time, up to 480g dry, lst train - 1 year of use before selling it, buyer got half a year before having issues, mars sent replacements and still going good. TIMBER SETUP - 300 watt Citizen CLU048 (6) COB Kit - 100x100x200cm - Humus, guano and sugars for feeding - 7 Plants and growing now, 1 month of veg, lst train. Ok so that is so far and I will be super honest. So far the veg in the mars was better but the timber is doing really good also, the customer support of mars is just insanely good, timber so far is just ok. What I want the most is to see what happens on the yield area and sure many are waiting for the same, so will let you know ppl! Anyone know how to check the little leds inside the cobs to know if they are all working? That is something that I liked about old leds. Hope this is helpfull to someone, cheers.