many pistils, no calyxs

Look friend we believe in Jesus around here and we dont know whats going on here with you calling me a child, we are just using this nice website to get some knowledge and help but I dont understand your disgenous manner. I dont have much experience and having only grown 9 strains to flower this really wacks me out whats going on with this one, so we thought that we could get some answers at this nice web site.

We will pray for you tonight and hope you find the joy and peace in your heart and soul like my wife and I did in Jesus Christ. Im not here to preach, but I hope u find some peace in your heart in your own manner, buddha, your friends, whatever it may be, but your responses are not nice, a clear indication that your not happy. If you were you wouldnt be haraassing a new grower who is honestly looking for input. I hope you do have a good night and we do appreciate your input about la confidential but I have no experience with it, as you said it has hairs and u cant see the bud? Well ours all hairs with no vegetive matter at all. Maybe you can explain it more in detail, because we dont know about zero density flowers that are only comprised of pistils. We would be very interested in what you have to offer us in your knowledge, you seem to be intelligent about mmj, but please do it with a little love for your neighbor.
Thank you

luke 14:12 Its a pretty nice scripture about the way we should treat our neighbors, even if u dont believe, its a beautiful manuscript
God Bless u night, we love you, and ask God to fill the issue thats on your heart.
Why didn't you just ask Jesus about your plants in the first place?
Ecclesiastes 3

If that doesn't help you, look up marijuana plant physiology or botany and learn that pistils emerge from the calyx. The calyx swell later in flowering. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Have faith.
 

vdog

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Haha, I just said that it's perfectly normal. People sometimes pay more to get really hairy buds as well. So it's kind of like a "treat" for some people. Some people don't understand the 90's. It happens.
I dont think you understand, there is no trichs at day 35 and absolutly no firm density
 

vdog

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Why didn't you just ask Jesus about your plants in the first place?
Ecclesiastes 3

If that doesn't help you, look up marijuana plant physiology or botany and learn that pistils emerge from the calyx. The calyx swell later in flowering. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Have faith.
I asked Jesus to bless our grow, and provide quality medication so the person dieing of cancer can get some relief. I have done some reading concerning physiology and botany, however if you can didrect me to the part you have come acrose that discussis heavy pistil formation with no calyx formations I would be very happy. Since you seem to have the lock down on the reference material, thank you for your help. Please send us that link when you get time. Keeping the faith is not an issue, we love the plant but want to find out what its doing growing with no density.
 

vdog

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a bud of just pistils? I would think your in the better boat my friend with calyxs providing weight density. If you are near phoenix az, and if your licensed for az I would be all to happy to give you fully rooted clones of it for free.
 

Nightmaresgrowing

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a bud of just pistils? I would think your in the better boat my friend with calyxs providing weight density. If you are near phoenix az, and if your licensed for az I would be all to happy to give you fully rooted clones of it for free.
Lol dude, you gotta realize that plants can flower upwards of 3 months. Most of the weight and density comes in the last couple weeks.... You should hook me up with some seeds since I am poorer than baby jesus, certified in CA :)
 

vdog

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Lol dude, you gotta realize that plants can flower upwards of 3 months. Most of the weight and density comes in the last couple weeks.... You should hook me up with some seeds since I am poorer than baby jesus, certified in CA :)
We have no seeds just clones, 100's of them, I understand that some sativa can go 12 even 16 weeks! There is a caregiver here with a strain and excellant pheno called neville berry that makes huge sativa foxtails but it takes up your tent/room for way to long. I would do it outdoors and start flowering in Sept in 10 gal containers, but I didnt plan for a outdoor run this year, shame on me.
However this doesnt mean that this plant at 5 weeks has absolutly no mass does not mean its going to swell up. Thats why I proposed the original question because I have neverr seen this type of growth, especially with no trichs at 5 weeks, even the neville berry has sugar at 5 weeks for a 4 monther

I looked at la conf pics but they are all mature plants with really no more pistils than any other strain I have done, maybe you can direct me to the la conf pics that are all pistils
 

Nightmaresgrowing

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We have no seeds just clones, 100's of them, I understand that some sativa can go 12 even 16 weeks! There is a caregiver here with a strain and excellant pheno called neville berry that makes huge sativa foxtails but it takes up your tent/room for way to long. I would do it outdoors and start flowering in Sept in 10 gal containers, but I didnt plan for a outdoor run this year, shame on me.
However this doesnt mean that this plant at 5 weeks has absolutly no mass does not mean its going to swell up. Thats why I proposed the original question because I have neverr seen this type of growth, especially with no trichs at 5 weeks, even the neville berry has sugar at 5 weeks for a 4 monther

I looked at la conf pics but they are all mature plants with really no more pistils than any other strain I have done, maybe you can direct me to the la conf pics that are all pistils
Here's a good picture of it, i've also smoked it a couple times and have an la conf plant outside. http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=979&tbm=isch&tbnid=pfwsD83-A01GQM:&imgrefurl=http://reviews.nuggetry.com/buds/la-confidential-herbal-solutions&docid=YujxPKF0lAOnoM&imgurl=http://reviews-new.nuggetry.netdna-cdn.com/post-pics/live-writer-pics/april-2009/L.A.ConfidentialHerbalSolutions_6F48/122308herbalsolutionscompassionatecaregiverslaconfidential002.jpg&w=644&h=484&ei=W3yIULP9L8uwigKH7YG4BQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=463&sig=108511534518723461185&page=2&tbnh=134&tbnw=180&start=49&ndsp=59&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:49,i:315&tx=142&ty=98
 

vdog

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So are you saying that these heavy pistil plants with no calyxs are going to blow up like those pictured, awful lot of orange hair, but to be honest I dont think to much more than the ones I have they are all pistil, 100's of them per bud site
a guy at another site told me that pistole rose peddle will emerge at everyone of those spots and then swell it up as it prepares to house the seed pod that has the pistol emerging from it. So each pistil represents a bract formation and thus dense bud seeing the amount of pistil formation, that in fact it might have a longer flower than 7 weeks which sux because it may not be blueberry. Unless grow environment changes between three locations is affecting things.... BINGO! Its like a contorl and evidence based eexperiements. I had worried and a bad feeling the caregiver screwed up and crossed strains up from mother cutting and clone. He had atleast ten, 150 site turbo aero cloners going. However he did have some other stuff that he stated came directly from a cannabis cup winner?? whatever right? So regardless his flower room did have some nice stuff in it. So maybe its a nice gift in the form of a dense dense flower producer. It was also my understanding that plants with longer and more pistils tend to be more fertile type phenos and in doing so the genetics allow for as much reciepter adhesive to better catch airborn pollen. If that dosent sound like milky resin what else doesnt? Really thou everything that was answered by everyone who spoke in this thread when it wasnt hijacked, was aboslutly right on and when the member at the other site brought a complete understanding of the physiology and im an ignorant donkey for saying I read that, when in my defense i did read those illustrations in the cervantes book, he broke down the details of the flowers and I remember understanding both male and female structures and parts, but I honestly do have a bad memory, so thank you alll! Im sorry it took me awhile to get it but I appreciate it all! God Bless u, and keeping the faith as someone said is so true because I was telling myself the same after you said that...ECC 3. who knows the plant could go into serious overdrive in the next 18 days to blow up putting it at 49 days, but regardless......

YES!!!!! tonight the blueberry smell is beginning to come to the nasal receiptors, YES!!! Im guessing an extra week, 56 days and it will be as good as the two other plants, different grows, identical pheno, I looked at attitude web site dj short bb picture, and that is what it looks like as far as leaf shape, short thin leaves spread apart, with some occasional big fan leaves. SO Im excited, thank you and goodnight, champagne toasts to all. BTW night barney farms best pheno of the strain lsd was a plant that bloomed with 100's of pistils and became dense powerful flowers, it placed in cannabis cup or hightimes cup, but who really cares, right?
You all take care and we will see you when the wind blows.
We are so thankful to have this strain its not a big yielder by any means grows slow and small in veg, spindly branches but produces awesome blueberry bud.
Thank you Lord for everyones help and for this beautiful pheno.
Take care and godd night!
 

rdo420

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Right on bud.:wink: Post some finished shots when your done. Ya got a jump on me so it'll be something to look foward to.
 
I asked Jesus to bless our grow, and provide quality medication so the person dieing of cancer can get some relief. I have done some reading concerning physiology and botany, however if you can didrect me to the part you have come acrose that discussis heavy pistil formation with no calyx formations I would be very happy. Since you seem to have the lock down on the reference material, thank you for your help. Please send us that link when you get time. Keeping the faith is not an issue, we love the plant but want to find out what its doing growing with no density.
I don't know offhand of any reference material pertaining directly to your issue, but you can search the web for marijuana botany by r. c. clarke and find good info.

You can also look at the ripeness chart and see the development with approximate times.
(search "when to harvest.jpg" in images.
Could be something about your strain too? Just has small calyxes which aren't highly visible until later?

Rest assured, the pistils are growing out of the calyx. I've never heard of any mutant marijuana plants which did not have calyxes. Also, the calyx don't swell much until around 6-8 weeks or more. Readily visible trichomes should begin for you fairly soon though I would think. If you have the radio shack dope scope have a look. I bet some are there already.

Good luck.
 

vdog

Active Member
Right on bud.:wink: Post some finished shots when your done. Ya got a jump on me so it'll be something to look foward to.
I want to get some pics right before cutting down, trimmed and cured, and with a 30x scope right up to my cell camera lens (works awesome).
 

vdog

Active Member
I don't know offhand of any reference material pertaining directly to your issue, but you can search the web for marijuana botany by r. c. clarke and find good info.

You can also look at the ripeness chart and see the development with approximate times.
(search "when to harvest.jpg" in images.
Could be something about your strain too? Just has small calyxes which aren't highly visible until later?

Rest assured, the pistils are growing out of the calyx. I've never heard of any mutant marijuana plants which did not have calyxes. Also, the calyx don't swell much until around 6-8 weeks or more. Readily visible trichomes should begin for you fairly soon though I would think. If you have the radio shack dope scope have a look. I bet some are there already.

Good luck.
Thank you, I will google and read ALL of that reading, appreciate the input, I really do feel like a fooll and yes unfortuantly with more and more mmj use these days, one negative side affect for me is the lack of good short term memory. Those weekly development pics you say of, I know I have seen them at some point but my memory is clouded and then when I get all stressed up about a situation I dont think clearly. I turn a awesome thing into a crazy thing without warrant. So once again all, i will post pics of it and some ssh and ak finishing. We are very excited. Thank you for the reference
remembering the seed pod calyx leads to a pistil, it like a rhino having a horn but the horn just receives strikes from other rhinos and the head gets scars not seed development. The thing that threw me a curve is that out of the 9 flowered strains we have never seen this typre of development and now that we have been educated we are both greatful and happy. It is now beginning to get sugar, and at 5 weeks I bet like u say there is going to be some straight up fatty girls happening. One other straight up thing is that the pistole brachts on the blueberry really do look like rolled up tight rose peddels waiting to open, the ones I saw had calyxs as wide as a #2 pencil, one of the coolest busd I have ever seen, and very easy quick trim, ill probably zip them all offf to the wall of the bud and then let them shrink in during drying, get them in jars at about 55 to 60 perceny humidity and start curing. If your in az with a card you can have some of this for no donation.
Bye now

Oh yeay those great guys at the local hydro store said its junk abnormal development and to pitch it, are they ignorant like I was, or do they straight up try to be buttheads?
 

vdog

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you know what its day 40 and still nothing but pistils! Whats up! no caylxs, just long ass pistils
 

vdog

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well it is right now 7 weeks, I thought it was longer earlier in the thread but went back to the calender and recounted, hello! So at 7 weeks it looks like it needs a week or two more, but yes you were right it filled in nicely, sticky buds but not much of a hash plant because the leaves are fairly clean, not alot of leaves anyways, quick trim. Im expecting it to ice up a lil bit more in the next 10 days anyways.
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Bigby

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The calyx's will be there, they are what the pistils are coming out of. They're probably really small right now as it's still got ages to go. That amount of long hairs are gonna have to go somewhere when they don't get a spray with some male stuff - and that will be back into those small calyx's. They're gonna have to swell like fucking crazy to fit those long pistils back in and have room for all that lovely resin too. You lucky man :-)
 

giggles26

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The calyx's will be there, they are what the pistils are coming out of. They're probably really small right now as it's still got ages to go. That amount of long hairs are gonna have to go somewhere when they don't get a spray with some male stuff - and that will be back into those small calyx's. They're gonna have to swell like fucking crazy to fit those long pistils back in and have room for all that lovely resin too. You lucky man :-)

Kinda what I was thinking. I'd rather have long ass hairs up until the last few weeks and then let them bitches swell with those long hairs receding when they don't get their love juice
 
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