Making Extacy Pills?

chitownsmoking said:

pure mdma is cut with coke, heroin, pcp, or w/e they feel like putting into it. very few pills of ex are pure mdma if even mdma at all

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There are ZERO reports of heroin (diacetylmorphine) ever being in an ecstasy pill - is it simply an urban legend. I have indeed heard of pcp, 2c-b, ketamine, methamphetamine, and various other adulterants though.

As to the latter, you're 100% on..
"very few pills of ex are pure mdma if even mdma at all".

Sad, but true.

they do cut rolls with heron. ever hear of speedy or smacky pills? not just heroin but fentynal, all kinds of synthetic narcotics

chitownsmoking said:

they do cut rolls with heron. ever hear of speedy or smacky pills? not just heroin but fentynal, all kinds of synthetic narcotics

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sure I have heard of them, but I've also heard of big foot... neither exist. Pure heroin, and any form of fentanyl cost multiple times more than that of mdma.

Check pill reports.. dancesafe lists 1 containing heroin, but the reagents used would also make morphine and oxycodone false positive for heroin.

lol pure heroin does cost alot like 60-90k a kilo. but you can cut it down and make one kilo into 30 and it will still get you high and sell 5-10$ bags of heroin. so looking at it like this it is cheap. .1 of a gram of pure heroin can kill u if ur not used to it. trust me people will put w/e into ex and sell it. and actualy mexican heroin and mexican fentynal are very cheap to buy.

And Poppy Seeds Give A False Positive For Opium. It's A Fucked Up System.

hom36rown said:

he is talking about actually synthesizing mdma, you are just talking about pressing stuff you bought into a pill. Also, there are no heroin pills, and very very rarely are there ever any cocaine pills.

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actualy i can name 2 pills with heroin, green chenilles (sp?) and green cupids. Gs up (at least in my area) hav equal parts methamphetamine cocane and mda. but still what they put in them makes it more of a fucked up experence

people will put anything in it for it to sell. and dumb ass kids will buy

First of all, heroin is more expensive than MDMA, you do not cut pills with something that is more expensive, and less readily available. It does not make sense. Second, heroin is not very active when taken orally, its basically a waste of heroin. So, Not only would the manufacturer be losing money, he would basically be wasting perfectly good heroin. I have actually taken a fentanyl pill though, a pink rhino, man that was pretty gnarley, I never take opiates so this shit knocked me on my ass. I threw up, but I did not feel it coming, it just shot out of my mouth out of nowhere. But yeah, fentanyl pills are extremely rare. THere are 3 of them on ecsasydata.

here http://de1.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgiquery=ID=139.html

Well That Should Answer All Questions About The Adulterants That Are Commonly Found In Ecstasy Tablets.

ok first off the original question was how do you make rolls, not how do you synthesize the active ingredent. i stated clearly that the differenci is that they are cut with random street drugs. (looks like i forgot to mention special K and pcp, but i have never seen these stupid-paris-hilton drugs so there furthest from my mind) if your the guy hung up on the fact that PER GRAM heroin is too expensive to spend on mixing with your roll batch, then i will revise the hypothetical roll making scenario more detailed and as if heroin was one of the drugs used (in the following paragraph). a gram of uncut heroin can easily go for $100+, however even to the most helplessly addicted dope fiend a whole Gram of uncut shit has overdose writen all over it.
so you get your hands on 3 100mg mollys weighing between 1g and 1.3 (depending on what else is in it)$20ea lets say i got we deal all 3 for $50. then you get your hands on a cheap gram of crystal meth $60 more if its ice meth but were playing it cheap. then we buy the heroin, and since its expensave were olny gonna get a .7 of untamperd shit for $80. for color and substance we can ad half a gram of baby formula, a half of a tums or maybe a 10 mg vicodin or something. all together we have around 5.2 grams of powderd roll mixture that cost us $190 to make and were only gonna make single stack pills weighing .1 a piece. weigh out the right amount and then press it. if you sell the pills yourself for 10 a piece we could make well over $500 and this was a small scale example.
i hope this clears up the confusion and ignorance

hom36rown said:

First of all, heroin is more expensive than MDMA, you do not cut pills with something that is more expensive, and less readily available. It does not make sense. Second, heroin is not very active when taken orally, its basically a waste of heroin. So, Not only would the manufacturer be losing money, he would basically be wasting perfectly good heroin. I have actually taken a fentanyl pill though, a pink rhino, man that was pretty gnarley, I never take opiates so this shit knocked me on my ass. I threw up, but I did not feel it coming, it just shot out of my mouth out of nowhere. But yeah, fentanyl pills are extremely rare. THere are 3 of them on ecsasydata.

here http://de1.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgiquery=ID=139.html

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heroin is quite potent any way you take it compared to any other opiates. fentanol patches or pills are rathe expensive too, so by your logic it would not be lucrative to make these gnarly pink rhinos. high dose fentanol and like OC 120s are the only things that could be stonger than dope. i can imagine someone who never did opiates taking two of your rhinos dancing and raving around for an hour then looking over to a friend and projectily vomiting all over them, exorsist style. then apologise and go back to raving

KaleoXxX said:

heroin is quite potent any way you take it compared to any other opiates. fentanol patches or pills are rathe expensive too, so by your logic it would not be lucrative to make these gnarly pink rhinos. high dose fentanol and like OC 120s are the only things that could be stonger than dope. i can imagine someone who never did opiates taking two of your rhinos dancing and raving around for an hour then looking over to a friend and projectily vomiting all over them, exorsist style. then apologise and go back to raving

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I agree with a bit, it costs too much to put in heroin or fentanyl. As to heroin being strong compared to other opiates/opioids, not really. Heroin is double the strength of morphine, about on par with oxycodone, significantly weaker than hydromorphone, oxymorphone, levorphanol, buprenophine, and roughly 1/50th the potency of the current prescribed fentanyl (not including even stronger designer, street fentalyls).

Hmmm. Hmmm.

KaleoXxX said:

heroin is quite potent any way you take it compared to any other opiates. fentanol patches or pills are rathe expensive too, so by your logic it would not be lucrative to make these gnarly pink rhinos. high dose fentanol and like OC 120s are the only things that could be stonger than dope. i can imagine someone who never did opiates taking two of your rhinos dancing and raving around for an hour then looking over to a friend and projectily vomiting all over them, exorsist style. then apologise and go back to raving

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Heroin is an utter waste when taken orally, you will need a much larger dose to achieve the same effects as smoking/snorting/slamming. True, Fentanyl is expensive, but fentanyl can also be manufactured in a laboratory if you have the precursors and an organic chemist handy for relatively cheap, well at least I'd imagine so. I doubt someone actually bought fentanyl to cut their pills with, I would assume it was synthesized. Perhaps the lab that was making the MDMA, was also in the business of making other drugs such as fentanyl, who knows. As for your little scenarios you laid out, well, yeah, thats not gonna cut it. You see, people dont just go out and buy a couple grams of stuff to make pills, the people manufacturing the pills are usually the people synthesizing the product(or at the very least, close associates of). So you say a gram of meth is $60, which I guess sounds ok if its ice, but keep in mind here, an organic chemist could easily make a pound of meth with, what, like $5 worth of pseudo lol. You cannot just make heroin. So yeah, thats not gonna fly.

Did he say crush up some mollys? bLack mollies? Speeders? That is an amphetamine. Same family, but not MDMA.

A "Roll" is a slang term for any generic pill containing MDMA.

Please understand that X takes more skill than Mth. If you make it wrong it is a horrible poison that causes symptoms like Parkensons.


Just me 2 cents.

He's Right You Know.

StreetRider said:

Did he say crush up some mollys? bLack mollies? Speeders? That is an amphetamine. Same family, but not MDMA.

A "Roll" is a slang term for any generic pill containing MDMA.

Please understand that X takes more skill than Mth. If you make it wrong it is a horrible poison that causes symptoms like Parkensons.


Just me 2 cents.

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Molly is MDMA

MDMA Synthesis=Pain In The Ass

Hmmmmm. Is That So?

Yup. Yup. Yup.