Magnesium deficiency? Maybe?

Gdp1

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That plant needs more than a week. More like 3.
P.s I am also experimenting with one plant same strain same feed same environment one week and everything else is on the regular three week water only . Love to experiment with plants see results
 

curious2garden

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I stopped feeding after I posted this original thread and it was recommended to me. Tha k you so much for the input. Your plants look great!

what are you using for medi

Thank you. Should I stick to the same dosing as before? (Half recommended dose of everything except Grow Big. 1/4 dose of that)?
Thank you, I've been doing this awhile now. I mostly strain hunt, for pain relief, and breed what I find that's useful. I grow in 50/50 coco/perlite and use Gen Hydro Flora Series. I started using them in 1996. I've tried Dyna Gro and they are good but GH Flora is so easy because I know it. I've thought about trying soil but it's to complex for me.
 

Tangerine_

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OF does not have enough nutrients to last an entire grow. I'm not a soil grower but search on it you'll see lots of people have to supplement. Next why did you stop feeding and how did it look prior to stopping? If she looked better than start feeding her again. If you stopped feeding her because she was starting to go this way give her water. I hesitate to recommend flushing to clear excess nutrient to a soil grower because you can get under water quickly. @Tangerine_ can you take a look?

Soil works off a microbial herd that also adjusts your pH (I miss you @Dr. Who ) So theoretically you shouldn't have to do much other than make sure your pH isn't wildly acidic or alkaline.


Anyway here's a couple pictures of my plants to demonstrate I actually know what I'm doing. Be careful about whose advice you take. You'll get a lot of folks that will help you destroy your grow. Look for guys who have been here awhile and check out journals if they have them. Don't hesitate to ask to see a pic of their current grow.

The veg picture is from 6/23/2020 The flower picture is from a few days ago. It's a seeded Bodhi Space Monkey.
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Best of luck with your grow. I need to get back to mine and start chopping.
Your plants are looking super healthy. I really love that Space Monkey.

I've only had a chance to glance over the the thread but I think @Budzbuddha has her on the right track.
Another possibility is the additional nutrients are causing the pH to dive causing lockout. When there's no uptake, the pH will continue to drop.

My best results with this soil always came from straight tap or a mixture of Tap/RO. I still had to supplement with a little kelp and mag though.
 

Budzbuddha

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IMO ....
Host medium ( FFOF ) has begun to show depletion in potassium. Overwatering also contributes to the deficiency.
It also mimics N deficiency, however most visible signs run along serrated edges and yellowing. Ph 6.5 is fine.

I think your plants are a bit more hungry than what is available in medium.
SIMPLEST FIX : add 2 scoops of fresh FFOF as a top dress to introduce a recharge to soil. Leaves will not recover and can be picked off ( worst ones ) you are just trying to slow the issue for correction. Some strains are pigs when feeding.
 

Tangerine_

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"Plant Metabolism and Circadian Rhythms,

While all plants need sunlight in some capacity to survive, they have metabolic processes that continue in darkness. One example of a light-independent process is the Calvin cycle, whereby carbon is captured and converted into stored energy using energy that is stored from other photosynthetic reactions during the day. Another is respiration, where oxygen is combined with stored food to make it usable. Plants usually produce oxygen during the day due to photosynthetic reactions and use oxygen at night due to respiration.

Owing to their internal circadian rhythms, while it's dark, plants anticipate the coming of dawn and prepare for it on a cellular level before their chloroplasts are stimulated by light.

In short, darkness plays a significant role in plant growth, influencing chloroplast distribution, leaf shape, growth patterns and the duration of daily cycles..."

Not only this, but plants produce auxin durring their "rest" period (auxin is a crucial plant growth hormone)

Yes autos can be flowered on 24/0 and yes you can give them a rest period if you like, will it increase your yield, well idk but i do know that rest is important to the growth and developement of a plant and here is the link to the article from the quoted information above,


Dr. Elaine Ingham also has some really good podcasts and youtube videos about what is metobolically going on in a plant when its resting, she explains the auxin hormone better then i ever am going to try to lol and she also has tpns of other really useful knowledgeable videos and podcasts on soil and plant biology and the relationships they share, really good material for anyone growing in soil and or growing period, she is very knowledgeable about plant nutrition and feeding strategies that can be directly applied to cannabis growing as well as many different methods and practices in regards to feeding soil and timing nutrients in the medium.
And root growth/health. I think we sometimes overlook how how much actually happens during the dark cycle.
 

Budzbuddha

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FFOF in container grows can run thru the entire grow by simple top dress recharging .
You can run dry fert ( happy frog fruit and flower / Megacrop / dr. Earth flower girl and others )
But since plant has already become acclimated this deep into grow , simple scoops does not overwhelm the plant.
Myco can be added to the top dress as well to bump the microbial numbers ( recharge / extreme gardening / Great White , etc . )

Ive run photos by just charging mixes after week 2 of flower or directly after stretch. Then every 2 weeks ( depending on strain ) until last 10 days before chop , then water only as necessary til chop. I use Kelp also during flower instead of bottled boosters.

I prep the TOP DRESS in a bowl then add to plant then water in ..... simple .

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curious2garden

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FFOF in container grows can run thru the entire grow by simple top dress recharging .
You can run dry fert ( happy frog fruit and flower / Megacrop / dr. Earth flower girl and others )
But since plant has already become acclimated this deep into grow , simple scoops does not overwhelm the plant.
Myco can be added to the top dress as well to bump the microbial numbers ( recharge / extreme gardening / Great White , etc . )

Ive run photos by just charging mixes after week 2 of flower or directly after stretch. Then every 2 weeks ( depending on strain ) until last 10 days before chop , then water only as necessary til chop. I use Kelp also during flower instead of bottled boosters.

I prep the TOP DRESS in a bowl then add to plant then water in ..... simple .

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Thank you and @Tangerine_ I can see the def but in soil I don't know the cure. You guys rock. I use Great White too and love it.
 

Petziecola

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I'm curious2know what was done to this grow and the result.
My plants are still hacked to hell. The new growth, for the most part looks ok, so I’m continuing on. Are these still looking good enough to harvest or what signs would I need to look for to tell me I need to abort the mission? No signs of bud rott. The buds look ok to me.9FFF38C5-5D5D-4141-A6C7-B7A284C2096B.jpegA5E7B425-C279-40AF-80C7-D44E6A47645A.jpeg9FFF38C5-5D5D-4141-A6C7-B7A284C2096B.jpegEFD567B1-E1F9-4BCE-8972-7A2D7D264B6D.jpegA5E7B425-C279-40AF-80C7-D44E6A47645A.jpeg717A5C62-EBC3-42ED-B707-E89667049ED3.jpegE0517AAF-87F2-4626-A8EF-D62F19782E7C.jpeg2B1211A5-09D0-4AC3-9F0E-E34A9B512794.jpeg
 

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