mehrific
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Any experiences with this company. http://www.lushledlighting.com/
LUSH LED LIGHTING.....and another one
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rarebreed619
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looks pretty good. checked out there pics and they look fire.....
jimjim2609
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hyroot you must post this comment to everyone who looks at buying a cheapo chinese rebrand. I must admit but, your right!
EmmaStonesToes
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...and Blackdog.
rarebreed619
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Chinese or not I checked there grows out and the buds look dank. Not all Chinese made leds are bad. Looking to get some name brand ones as soon as I get done testing out these 1200w (720w) 5w panels I picked up. If they get the job done might stick with them till they burn out
Totalimmortal363
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Chinese or not I checked there grows out and the buds look dank. Not all Chinese made leds are bad. Looking to get some name brand ones as soon as I get done testing out these 1200w (720w) 5w panels I picked up. If they get the job done might stick with them till they burn out
Im gonna have to agree with that, some Chinese LED's are not terrible and actually measure up to their name brand counterparts at times. I know I don't contribute a lot here, but I've been in the aquarium trade for a long time and have seen the LED craze play out on that side of the world. Some are bad, some are the same thing as the name brand minus a sticker or two.
Chronikool
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Farmerjohn420 is using them so they must be good...... 
PSUAGRO.
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Yes I agree that they may measure up to the high quality panels, my problem is for HOW LONG though? That's my issues with the Chinese panels, too many failures just on this site alone! Yeah warranties are nice but I don't even want to deal with taking it down/packaging it/sending it back/waiting........./putting it back up.....lol
Here's a little fyi Hans has had a total of three! failures /warranty claims on his panels in 2+ yrs......usually the remote driver (Chinese). I asked him about it, do I believe it? Yeah.......possibility that some may have replaced they own driver? Sure. Its still ridiculously low.
hyroot
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Farmerjohn420 is using them so they must be good......
Bahahahaha ooohhh bahahaha ahhhh bahaha
tags420
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That kushington farms has good pics but more than half of it is hps. that they don't show. They used to be on the farm till they got kicked off. The guy lies about his output, diodes, and kushington. They claim to use 10 different cree's and 2 of them are completely custom...ya fucking right. They are just e-shines with what ever spectrum lush wanted to put their name on. If you look at the par foot print on their website you can see to cover a 4x4(what 1000w hps cover), it's nowhere close to intense.
Some chinese lights can be good. If you find the right brand(not e-shine/lush). Also if you're lucky enough to receive it not broken. Then the real test is will it survive more than 1 year, most are good for 1-2 run before something happens. Then when it breaks and $YOU$ have to send it back... you'll get pissed and say "man I should ave just spent the extra and never dealt with this shit". Plus you would be getting better performance from the start with a good american panel.
Some chinese lights can be good. If you find the right brand(not e-shine/lush). Also if you're lucky enough to receive it not broken. Then the real test is will it survive more than 1 year, most are good for 1-2 run before something happens. Then when it breaks and $YOU$ have to send it back... you'll get pissed and say "man I should ave just spent the extra and never dealt with this shit". Plus you would be getting better performance from the start with a good american panel.
Kushington420
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Tags420, you are the one spreading lies and manipulating people with bull shit! All the lights you promote are junk, you are not fooling anyone.
For starters, I have not ran nor touched a HID in over a year. There was a testing phase where I ran LED vs HPS but that time has long past. No need to use any HID when you are using the correct LED.
Second, HPS is full of IR light that makes a par meter increase, that's not as beneficial as you think. The lights I use push that par energy on the UV side and so it's far more beneficial than HPS's par light. There are a lot of people using these over a 4x4 like I do, others over a 3x3. It's a matter of preference and how much light you want to provide for each sq ft. Either way, not only are breeders like Swerve and Subcool using Lush but so are large grow operations. The only reason they use these lights is because they work, bottom line, that it. So why are they not using the Apache Tech or Indagro? You got it, because they do not.
To clear the air, Lush brand lights are not e-shine LED's. They are their own brand, sourced their own parts, and sought out their own manufacturing. Lush also warranties their own product in the Michigan. You don't have to worry about being without a light or them failing so quickly like the other brands. They spent 3 years engineering these lights and perfecting them so they will last and out perform all other lights. The only people that don't like Lush are the ones trying to push other brand LED's.
sovereignlife
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And if your propaganda claims that made us all balk wasn't enough. What little credibility you had just got wiped taking shots at Apache.
Would love to believe in your company but a lack of transparency coupled with claims makes the majority of educated consumers sketched out.
Would love to believe in your company but a lack of transparency coupled with claims makes the majority of educated consumers sketched out.
gk skunky
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All I know is I'm ~99.999% sure those are just rebranded Evergrows. if you are going to get them get them from the source. That's my $.02. The dominator 435W would be the EG600 just FYI. (200 3w leds).
http://www.ledgrowlights.cn/product.asp?id=48&class=EG LED Grow Lights
http://www.ledgrowlights.cn/product.asp?id=48&class=EG LED Grow Lights
Greengenes707
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Whatever dude. Last time lush tried to talk to me about their lights on a forum they got banned in 2days for foolish and clearly false claims, so I hope you came with some quantified proof. I talk to you guys at every cup. Your a joke and so is your light. Glad you finally stepped up to secondary lenses, but your output is still low. Sub isn't using it yet, just talking about where to hang his free light...non of the spots are in a flower room. And then farmerjohn was only lighting up his walk ways with them.
I have talked to your people on the phone as well. They said you use 10 different cree chips...2 of them custom just for you. I have see your diodes and they are 100% not cree's.
Plenty of huge greenhouses and indoor grow facilities use apache and indagro. Both of which are truly UL certified. Apache being the only horticulture led to actually be UL. They are used by government, university research, and many other private facilities...because they work. Apache isn't very open about there dealing with any MMJ/recreational facilities like lush or IG are...but don't think that doesn't mean they don't exist. I know of a few operations in denver are already decked out with apache at600's. Keep your eye's on CNN in the next few months.
And by the way... the UV and IR light don't effect the quantum(par) meter's readings. That's the whole point of the meter...equal readings of all light from 400nm-700nm.
If you want to help your image...
-What chips does lush use???
-Where do you get your housing's???
-Where in the world is everything assembled at???
-Do you guys have a PAR foot print over the 4x4 that you claim???
-What G/W are you getting???
-How along are you vegging?
-What drivers do you use???
-What are your pcb's made of???
-What is your space and how many of each light are you running over that space???
Chronikool
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What kind of statement is this....??? I dont like Lush because of their diode claims...
What the fuck does that even mean....? So you dont use Crees...but Cree designed us special leds? Exclusively? Details? (or is this special agent secret stuff...?)
Scotch089
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Wow, I am very interested in Lush Lighting Farmer, you have seemed to of convinced me with your great people skills.
Alright, so I just LOVE that segregated 730nm peak on their charts, what are they using to get that?
Also, THANKS for the education on IR, personally im more worried about the footprint it leaves, the heat I dont see but get to deal with. SO. Since they DONT have IR to get the numbers they want... theyre using Monochromatic Blue's as more than HALF their spectrum?
I dont know what blue does for your 180,000 Lumens, but I bet it helps that PPFD
I would like to hear what you think are the Pro's in that situation... because other customers (usually personal use..limited head room) are going to be pissed when they dont know why their plants are not growing. Better keep that shit at 4'
G had hopped on here when I reloaded my page to upload some pics, he has just about got it covered. but thought this Apogee Page was worth Noting.
http://www.apogeeinstruments.com/aquarium-par-meters/
"In recent years, LEDs have gained popularity in the marketplace due to their low power consumption and minimal heat output. This is great for cost savings, but due to the unique spectral output of the various colors (for example, very narrow wavelength ranges), LEDs present a challenge when attempting to make accurate PAR measurements. With commercially available PAR meters, certain colors of LED tend to read high, while others read low. The best device for accurate PAR measurement is a spectroradiometer, which provides intensity readings at each wavelength. However, these are often not well suited for underwater measurements and can range in price from several thousand to tens of thousands of dollars."
| [h=4]LED Type[/h] | [h=4]Error [%] for Apogee Quantum Sensor[/h] | |
| Cool White | -4.2 | |
| Neutral White | -6.1 | |
| Warm White | -9.9 | |
| Blue (448 nm) | -10.7 | |
| Green (524 nm) | 5.8 | |
| Red (635 nm) | 4.7 | |
| Red, Blue | 2.7 | |
| Red, Green, Blue | 3.5 |
And to speak to TGA, they are in a business- that comes with a mindset to fit. Sadly G said Lush are the only ones getting their names out at these events... of course they are going to choose the more "mainlined" market, whether they have a product to back it or not.. they have a better chance of making a sale in an open community than someone that doesnt advertise much/at all. (bonsaihero, Rhinogrow...
) Even outside the WWW. A51 is pretty hush. I am in the process of convincing the local shop that CLW is nice- but not the best example of LEDs. I told em id take my meter down next time I run down, Ill try to snap some shots if anyone gives a shit. "The only reason they use these lights is because they work, bottom line, that it. So why are they not using the Apache Tech or Indagro? You got it, because they do not."
Man that just fuckin chaps my ass... fuck it, Ill hit them up, they give an unbelievably good discount for a comp. grow, I will stack your bullshit 8" bar against anything in my arsenal. Pull your head out...
@24" w/167w
@18"
chazbolin
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Kushington420, if Lush is willing to hook up Scotch with one of their panels to do a side by side than, if he can make the time and room for it, I'll see that he gets an IG Pro-420 for a side by side. To be fair I'll run it without the Pontoon but to be honest, I'd rather he run the Pontoon so he can pick up the weight that he'll lose under your panel, making the run worthwhile. Either way the offer is out there.
I can assure you that you have no idea what you're talking about. IG is running in more gardens than Lush and converting more large scale HID operations on a daily basis. Do the side by side and you'll quit talking smack about IG and AT on forums.
