Lt. Col. Allen West and Michelle Obama ...

ViRedd

New Member
March 16, 2008
Lt. Col. Allen West and Michelle Obama

By James Lewis


I just sent my first political contribution to the Congressional campaign of former Army Lt. Colonel Allan West, who is running on the "R" ticket in Florida House District 22 --- that's in Broward County. Colonel West is a man who has proved himself, not just in the rigors of combat, not just in leadership, not just in the technical craft of military tactics and strategy, but in the most difficult life-and-death dilemma a human being can face. He made an agonizing moral decision to save his men from a likely ambush. To do so, he shot off a pistol next to the head of a suspect, forcing him to confess vital lifesaving intelligence. Col. West didn't do that to punish the man, but to save lives. It worked.

When Col. West reported his own actions to superiors, he must have known that his decision would cost him his military career. He might have ended up in prison for years. He knew it would lead to months and months of personal agony. But he made the right decision in the face of a life-and-death moral dilemma.

I think I know what kind of a human being Colonel West must be, and I'm deeply pleased to support him. We need many more like him in the US Congress, because he is an adult who can make a moral decision under immense pressure. Far too many of our politicians just slip around real moral decisions; those are the people we don't need as leaders.

Consider the contrast with other people in the news.

Michelle Obama, the wife of the Senator, is a bright and talented woman. Perhaps she was unlucky to go to Princeton University and Harvard Law School, because she has now become deeply cynical about this country. That's not surprising, because our top universities teach their students to be cynical. They think it's terribly, terribly sophisticated. All their friends are cynical. Worse than that, they think their cynicism is true.

So Mrs. Obama can
say things like ""for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country." She means it. She believes it. But she utterly lacks a mature perspective on that question.

Here's what a Staff Sergeant who served with Colonel West has to
say.

SSG Josh Turner

Nov 29, 2007 SIR, YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER ME, MY NAME IS JOSHUA TURNER. I WAS IN 2/20 WHEN YOU WERE IN COMMAND AND DEPLOYED WITH YOU IN 2003. I WAS A SPC AT THE TIME, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DID IN IRAQ TO SECURE THE SAFETY FOR US AND TO STAND UP FOR US SOLDIERS. SIR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN SAY TO RELAY THE DEEP FEELING OF GRATITUDE I HAVE FOR YOU AND YOUR ACTIONS. I HOLD YOU EXTREMELY HIGH IN REGARDS TO ALL THE COMMANDERS THAT I HAVE SERVED WITH. SIR, YOU ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST REALISTIC, DOWN TO EARTH, CARING, PASSIONATE COMMANDER THAT I HAVE EVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE WITH. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU MADE FOR US. SSG TURNER, JOSH "YOU DO NOT NEED TO EXCERT FORCE TO SHOW POWER"

What's the difference between these individuals? Age, education, income, race? My guess is that it comes down to the culture of victimization versus the culture of earned pride. Mrs. Obama's high-priced education has persuaded her that she is a victim; or if she personally happened to luck out, she has been told that millions of others are helpless victims. They cannot be trusted to survive as self-sufficient adults.

Well, victimization is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So is honest pride and self-confidence. (This is not news to anybody but our professors on the Left.)

For some mad reason our best universities now teach self-victimization, especially to Blacks and minorities. They thereby handicap and undermine the very people they claim to help. It's bizarre beyond belief, but not for our perverse Left. Fortunately some of our institutions, like our military, still inculcate pride based on real achievements. The colonel didn't get his chestful of ribbons for being a victim.

It's the Hurricane Katrina story all over again, pitting New Orleans Mayor
Ray Nagin against United States Army Lt. General Russell Honoré. Mayor Nagin panicked when Katrina hit, and thousands of his constituents ended up miserably stuck in the flood, waiting for somebody to help them. In General Honoré 's immortal phrase, City Hall was "stuck on stupid," along with the rest of the political class.

"Don't Be Stuck on Stupid" is a phrase that should be emblazoned in every single schoolroom in the country. Forget giving out gold stars for self-esteem. Just tell our kids not to get stuck on stupid. To drown in the culture of victimization in the land of opportunity is really being stuck on stupid. It is teaching people how to starve in the midst of plenty.

Electing Lt. Col. Alan West to Congress sounds like a good way to start getting our political class off being stuck on stupid. When he gets to Washington, D.C., he may have find new depths of toleration and patience with the idiocies of the political system. But the more people like him we can send to Congress, the healthier we will be as a country.

My big question is, how do we get General Honoré to run for office?

Oh yes, and all four of these folks are African Americans: Col. West, General Honoré, Mrs. Obama and Mayor Ray Nagin.

So what? Victimhood and earned pride are human universals.

James Lewis blogs at dangeroustimes.wordpress.com/
 
"Never give what is good to dogs- for they will take the good you've provided and still turn and attack you" (the provider).
The Obamas and many others of that ilk are classic examples for this. Col. west, and many others on the other hand, took the good and provided 'life' for others.
The Obamas and others of that ilk- would like to provide chains and poverty to one and all.

It's the difference in how one uses 'gifts'.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
another analogy that doesn't make any sense....

and that article was pretty funny, nothing like personal attacks, and erronious conclusions when you can't get any facts straight......

here's some facts, straight out of the yahoo! home page:

"...Low inflation is one sign of the economy's weakness. Companies are finding it hard to raise prices because consumers fearful for their jobs remain wary of spending much.
That was clear from a Labor Department report Wednesday on consumer prices. Prices did move higher last month. But that was mainly because of volatile energy costs.


After stripping out volatile energy and food prices, inflation disappeared last month. That gives the Fed leeway to hold its key interest rate at a record low to aid the recovery.


At the same time, home construction rebounded in November after a setback in October. And applications for new building permits -- a gauge of future activity -- rose more than economist had predicted. A housing recovery is vital to the overall economy...."


everybody keeps asking why the fed keeps the interest rate that low and money keeps getting printed, there you go.

if you're gonna talk politics, try to make a good point that has to do with politics, not some gossip-column bullshit off some sad blogger's lonely page.....
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
After stripping out volatile energy and food prices, inflation disappeared last month. That gives the Fed leeway to hold its key interest rate at a record low to aid the recovery.


everybody keeps asking why the fed keeps the interest rate that low and money keeps getting printed, there you go.

Somebody doesn't have a grasp of the situation. The REAL reason the Fed is keeping interest rates at zero is because they HAVE to. As soon as they set the rates where they should be, the whole house of cards has NO CHOICE but to fall. I suggest you read or watch Peter Schiff if you want a little dash of reality with the MSM bullshit you're spouting above. The rates are where they are because hyper-inflation awaits the moment they raise them.



At the same time, home construction rebounded in November after a setback in October. And applications for new building permits -- a gauge of future activity -- rose more than economist had predicted. A housing recovery is vital to the overall economy...."
There is a glut of homes all across the US that aren't selling. And you think home construction is a guage on the economy? The only reason home construction is doing ANYTHING is because of the housing subsidies, remove those subsidies and guess what, no home construction. It's a lie, a scam, a fabrication and you're gobbling it up... while your tax dollars are being spent to perpetuate said fabrication. Enjoy.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
the fed doesn't HAVE to do anything...... they are keeping the interest rates at an all time low to keep the economy afloat, and yet, no hyper-inflation, i'm runnign to the panic room and dressing up in tin-foil apocalypse has unfolded........

they don't HAVE to do anything, on the other hand, they can choose to raise interest rates, which will completely freeze lending, and see where that takes us....

and they said a housing recovery as in overall housing values.... and subsidies are a common way for government to spur economic activity, only someone as closed minded as yourself won't understand it, let alone admit it..... it happens, yes in the states, and in a lot of places, the government can give subsidies to areas of the economy that need help, it's nothing new, been done before with great success, and yes, sometimes it fails, but there's only one way to find out.... only you cry wolf every time:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RUN THE BIG BAD SOCIALIST IS COMMING!!!!

*scoffs..........
 

jeff f

New Member
another analogy that doesn't make any sense....

and that article was pretty funny, nothing like personal attacks, and erronious conclusions when you can't get any facts straight......

here's some facts, straight out of the yahoo! home page:

"...Low inflation is one sign of the economy's weakness. Companies are finding it hard to raise prices because consumers fearful for their jobs remain wary of spending much.
That was clear from a Labor Department report Wednesday on consumer prices. Prices did move higher last month. But that was mainly because of volatile energy costs.


After stripping out volatile energy and food prices, inflation disappeared last month. That gives the Fed leeway to hold its key interest rate at a record low to aid the recovery.


At the same time, home construction rebounded in November after a setback in October. And applications for new building permits -- a gauge of future activity -- rose more than economist had predicted. A housing recovery is vital to the overall economy...."


everybody keeps asking why the fed keeps the interest rate that low and money keeps getting printed, there you go.

if you're gonna talk politics, try to make a good point that has to do with politics, not some gossip-column bullshit off some sad blogger's lonely page.....
other than the bullshit you wrote above, how is the economy around your house? i can tell ya that the east coast sucks. people leaving town and losing their homes all over the place with no signs of stoppin. business anfter business folding.

if this means better to you....
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Thanks Vi, very interesting dichotomy.
Two irreconcilable world views.
Which would be better for this nation?
It is an easy choice for me.:joint:
 

medicineman

New Member
Thanks Vi, very interesting dichotomy.
Two irreconcilable world views.
Which would be better for this nation?
It is an easy choice for me.:joint:
Wavels, grab your guns and go be a hero. I'm sure the neo-cons, (Warmongers) would welcome you with open arms. Heros are made, not born, apply at the front lines in A-stan.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Wavels, grab your guns and go be a hero. I'm sure the neo-cons, (Warmongers) would welcome you with open arms. Heros are made, not born, apply at the front lines in A-stan.

Lol med...you are the master of the non sequitur...

Besides, I am an old codger, not much younger than yourself.
:mrgreen:
 

medicineman

New Member
Lol med...you are the master of the non sequitur...

Besides, I am an old codger, not much younger than yourself.
:mrgreen:
You know Wavels, of all the righties on this site, you exhibit the most class, IMHO, and I'd be proud to sit down with you and have an extended, non-violent, conversation. Kudos my man. Like maybe we could go shooting, not at eachother, maybe some common disliked politicians, LOL.
 

jeff f

New Member
March 16, 2008
Lt. Col. Allen West and Michelle Obama

By James Lewis


I just sent my first political contribution to the Congressional campaign of former Army Lt. Colonel Allan West, who is running on the "R" ticket in Florida House District 22 --- that's in Broward County. Colonel West is a man who has proved himself, not just in the rigors of combat, not just in leadership, not just in the technical craft of military tactics and strategy, but in the most difficult life-and-death dilemma a human being can face. He made an agonizing moral decision to save his men from a likely ambush. To do so, he shot off a pistol next to the head of a suspect, forcing him to confess vital lifesaving intelligence. Col. West didn't do that to punish the man, but to save lives. It worked.

When Col. West reported his own actions to superiors, he must have known that his decision would cost him his military career. He might have ended up in prison for years. He knew it would lead to months and months of personal agony. But he made the right decision in the face of a life-and-death moral dilemma.

I think I know what kind of a human being Colonel West must be, and I'm deeply pleased to support him. We need many more like him in the US Congress, because he is an adult who can make a moral decision under immense pressure. Far too many of our politicians just slip around real moral decisions; those are the people we don't need as leaders.

Consider the contrast with other people in the news.

Michelle Obama, the wife of the Senator, is a bright and talented woman. Perhaps she was unlucky to go to Princeton University and Harvard Law School, because she has now become deeply cynical about this country. That's not surprising, because our top universities teach their students to be cynical. They think it's terribly, terribly sophisticated. All their friends are cynical. Worse than that, they think their cynicism is true.

So Mrs. Obama can say things like ""for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country." She means it. She believes it. But she utterly lacks a mature perspective on that question.

Here's what a Staff Sergeant who served with Colonel West has to say.

SSG Josh Turner

Nov 29, 2007 SIR, YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER ME, MY NAME IS JOSHUA TURNER. I WAS IN 2/20 WHEN YOU WERE IN COMMAND AND DEPLOYED WITH YOU IN 2003. I WAS A SPC AT THE TIME, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DID IN IRAQ TO SECURE THE SAFETY FOR US AND TO STAND UP FOR US SOLDIERS. SIR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN SAY TO RELAY THE DEEP FEELING OF GRATITUDE I HAVE FOR YOU AND YOUR ACTIONS. I HOLD YOU EXTREMELY HIGH IN REGARDS TO ALL THE COMMANDERS THAT I HAVE SERVED WITH. SIR, YOU ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST REALISTIC, DOWN TO EARTH, CARING, PASSIONATE COMMANDER THAT I HAVE EVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE WITH. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU MADE FOR US. SSG TURNER, JOSH "YOU DO NOT NEED TO EXCERT FORCE TO SHOW POWER"

What's the difference between these individuals? Age, education, income, race? My guess is that it comes down to the culture of victimization versus the culture of earned pride. Mrs. Obama's high-priced education has persuaded her that she is a victim; or if she personally happened to luck out, she has been told that millions of others are helpless victims. They cannot be trusted to survive as self-sufficient adults.

Well, victimization is a self-fulfilling prophecy. So is honest pride and self-confidence. (This is not news to anybody but our professors on the Left.)

For some mad reason our best universities now teach self-victimization, especially to Blacks and minorities. They thereby handicap and undermine the very people they claim to help. It's bizarre beyond belief, but not for our perverse Left. Fortunately some of our institutions, like our military, still inculcate pride based on real achievements. The colonel didn't get his chestful of ribbons for being a victim.

It's the Hurricane Katrina story all over again, pitting New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin against United States Army Lt. General Russell Honoré. Mayor Nagin panicked when Katrina hit, and thousands of his constituents ended up miserably stuck in the flood, waiting for somebody to help them. In General Honoré 's immortal phrase, City Hall was "stuck on stupid," along with the rest of the political class.

"Don't Be Stuck on Stupid" is a phrase that should be emblazoned in every single schoolroom in the country. Forget giving out gold stars for self-esteem. Just tell our kids not to get stuck on stupid. To drown in the culture of victimization in the land of opportunity is really being stuck on stupid. It is teaching people how to starve in the midst of plenty.

Electing Lt. Col. Alan West to Congress sounds like a good way to start getting our political class off being stuck on stupid. When he gets to Washington, D.C., he may have find new depths of toleration and patience with the idiocies of the political system. But the more people like him we can send to Congress, the healthier we will be as a country.

My big question is, how do we get General Honoré to run for office?

Oh yes, and all four of these folks are African Americans: Col. West, General Honoré, Mrs. Obama and Mayor Ray Nagin.

So what? Victimhood and earned pride are human universals.

James Lewis blogs at dangeroustimes.wordpress.com/

dude, west rocks. i remember his story well. a real american hero . God bless him and may he win. my only regret is that i dont live in his district. it would make me proud to vote for him.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Its going to be interesting to see how the progressive media treats Col. West in the upcoming elections. I suspect that he's no one to be screwed with. I think an interview is in order between Col. West and Charles Gibson ... I can just see it: Gibson will look down his nose over his glasses in that condesending way, as he did with Sarah Palin, and Col. West removes the glasses and stuffs them up Gibson's ass. :lol:
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
other than the bullshit you wrote above, how is the economy around your house? i can tell ya that the east coast sucks. people leaving town and losing their homes all over the place with no signs of stoppin. business anfter business folding.

if this means better to you....
it was reported by yahoo!, or the associated press. not me..... just pointing it out....
 
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