LST Late Flowering, Yellow fan leaves, Will she make it...(PICS)

Martybutch

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Soo its late in my flowering cycle and the fan leaves are almost completely yellow. I understand its more than likely PH or the obvious nitrogen deficiency, I'm just wondering if i can improve the condition or if she will still be able to flower untill the end as she is..

All comments good bad and ugly accepted.

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Thanks all..

Marty b :leaf:
 

growingforfun

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It's fine, continue as is. The way to improve the plant would be to lower the temps a bit and make your nutrients SLIGHTLY stronger. The leaves are ruffling slightly and if you don't control that by lowering temps (or whatever the actual cause I think it temps tho) then the plant will only be further stressed.
 

PurpleBuz

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It's fine, continue as is. The way to improve the plant would be to lower the temps a bit and make your nutrients SLIGHTLY stronger. The leaves are ruffling slightly and if you don't control that by lowering temps (or whatever the actual cause I think it temps tho) then the plant will only be further stressed.
what does lowering temps do? Just slow down starvation? I agree the plants are starving, as you suggested feed them a little. but why lower temps?
 

benton OG

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what does lowering temps do? Just slow down starvation? I agree the plants are starving, as you suggested feed them a little. but why lower temps?
Lower temps tend to produce more females. It doesn't have to be a mild 75 all the time. I grow in 65-72 and have only grown one male. Also the RH will be higher in a higher temp room. not good
 

PurpleBuz

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Lower temps tend to produce more females. It doesn't have to be a mild 75 all the time. I grow in 65-72 and have only grown one male. Also the RH will be higher in a higher temp room. not good
male/female is encoded in their dna. Females may hermi under stress like low temps. Where did you get evidence that you can change sex population with temp?
never ever heard of science behind that.
 

LadyZandra

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You say she is late in flower-- HOW late?
It is NORMAL for many strains to turn completely yellow, or red, or burgundy, etc... when it is near harvest because it means you fed them correctly and they produced the right carbohydrates to store in her system for late flower (Autumn in nature) when they turn color, drop leaves, and produce more trichomes (sugar) just before they die.... the colors are a form of "antifreeze" the plant produces to survive colder temperatures-- something a totally green/immature plant usually won't do. ;)

The male/female ratio is determined early in the sprouting/early vegging period... the DNA determines the sex-- HOWEVER- because cannabis- like most plants- do not have simply regular XY factors, it is more complicated than that. There are true males/True females that can not be changed, Females/Males that can be "influenced" by their environment, Males/Females that are teetering on the edge, and any environmental stress hermies them, or genetic hermies.

There is a LOT of evidence and studies out there... mostly long-winded Botanical papers on genetics and genomes etc...

But you can not force a sex to change in a seed- but since only approximately 15% are TRUE males/females-- the rest can be 'helped along" by keeping the environment stress- free and the conditions as close to 'natural" as possible-- meaning no/low nitrogen in sprout & early veg, and lower temps, higher humidity, and bluer light during the whole Veg time, with increased nitrogen.. We have about a 1-in-40 male to female ratio because we know this and follow it.
 

PurpleBuz

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There is not single piece of science in that thread. Cannabis has male\female paired chromosones just like people. What Cannabis does have are hermaphroditic capabilities usually seen as producing male flowers on a genetic female, which is heavily influenced by the environment. I have also seen evidence that hermaphroditic capability is inherited and varies in populations.

I suppose it should be possible for a male plant to develop female flowers, although I have never seen a confirmed report of a known male producing seeds. I suppose it makes sense, since there should be survival selection pressure to produce seeds, and the female can ensure this by throwing bananas.

check this out http://montanabiotech.com/plant-dna-collection-kit™-male-female-screening-genetic-profiling-provided-by-montana-biotech/
 

growingforfun

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You want temps to be lower because you don't have co2 (I assume) here's how plants work: higher temps make plant processes happen faster as far as water uptake and nute processing goes, with improper nute balance an high temps you will see leaf issues like what your seeing. Some co2 supplementation can help but without fixing nute inbalances it's counter productive.

my advise : lower temps, increase airflow. Those are the easiest ways to higher yield. Nutrients help too of course but the plant can only work as hard as you let it
 

benton OG

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Soo its late in my flowering cycle and the fan leaves are almost completely yellow. I understand its more than likely PH or the obvious nitrogen deficiency, I'm just wondering if i can improve the condition or if she will still be able to flower untill the end as she is..

All comments good bad and ugly accepted.

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Thanks all..

Marty b :leaf:
I think your plant looks perfect and its normal like ladyZandra said for the leaves to yellow near the end of the flowering process. Happy harvest!
 

Martybutch

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You want temps to be lower because you don't have co2 (I assume) here's how plants work: higher temps make plant processes happen faster as far as water uptake and nute processing goes, with improper nute balance an high temps you will see leaf issues like what your seeing. Some co2 supplementation can help but without fixing nute inbalances it's counter productive.

my advise : lower temps, increase airflow. Those are the easiest ways to higher yield. Nutrients help too of course but the plant can only work as hard as you let it
You were spot on my friend, Thought through the issues and what the possible causes could be and came up with the same answer :) Took the necessary actions and the plant has really had a burst of energy (didnt add c02 just sorted air flow and temps and its done the trick instantly.. The bud is honestly the most crystal covered weed i have personally see, I am praying to get a good cure at the end of this.

I think your plant looks perfect and its normal like ladyZandra said for the leaves to yellow near the end of the flowering process. Happy harvest!
Thanks a lot man :) i always knew the yellowing was natural it just seemed a bit to soon. This is actually my first attempt at LST and its become the best weed i have grown and hopefully going to smoke.

Thanks all for comments, i may possibly post more pics soon?

Marty B :leaf:
 
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