Lowryder 2 - Things You Might Not Know

P@ssw0rd said:

So i recently completed my LowRyder 2 seed run in preperation for many many LR2 grows to come in the furure. In my mind a seed run is a necessity for anyone planning to grow any auto strain as not doing so will lead to purchasing seeds for every crop you plant and that could get expensive quick. I realize there is a wealth of info when it comes to growing autos but I thought i would share some info that i haven't heard mentioned alot, particularly info on breeding.


7. I heard so many people knocking the auto strains that i really wasn't sure what to think. I took the chance and ordered some seeds to see for myself. This stuff is dank, it really is great smoke . The next time you hear sombody bashing autos ask them if they have ever tried growing or smking it themselves, Bet they haven't and if they have.....you just found a really bad grower, take no advice from them on anything!


Hope this helps anyone who is considering growing LR2 or any auto strain.If nothing else it will at least help cut down on the number of times the gurus will have to answer the same questions.

Good Luck Everyone

P@ssw0rd

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What a load of horseshit!! My first two grows were with Lowryder #2 and I'll never grow it again. I also tell people to pass on it for one reason you pretentious know-it-all - YIELD!!!! Yeah the smoke was decent and the high was okay. It was also nice to get some bud in about 10 weeks, but it's extremely vulnerable to pests (esp. spider mites) and its YIELD SUCKS! For this reason, I tell people to go with WW or something because although it takes longer, the yield is better and the resistance to pests and nute burn is MUCH better. If your impatience leads you to the lowryder, watch out for the pests and beware of nute burn. If you want actual yield, good smoke, and a good strain to cut your teeth on, go with something else. anything else...

or you can follow the advice above, which states to IGNORE ANYONE WHO DOESN'T PRAISE LR#2 - wtf!!!

Why switch the lights to 18/6?

Why not keep them on 24/0?

dude, i think your missing the point password was making....yeah, ok, the yield may be small, (per plant)...but a friend of minez gets 30g-45g per plant dry!!!!!! factor that in with the short grow/life cycle, (usually 8wks, but he does 10wks) with 25 bicthes blossming, u got by far the most bud in the least amount of time!!! cha-ching!!!!$$$ btw, 30g x 25 bitches = 750g. and/or 45g x 25 bicthes = 1,125g. MY POINT IS,.. SHOW ME ANY NON-AUTO STRAIN OUT THERE THAT CAN GET YOU ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AMOUNT IN THAT TIME PERIOD......the point for the autos basically is "time and space"..you yourself should know, time and space is always of the essence...whereas if you only grow reg strains, you would have more yield per plant dry, but in a fuckload of time, ie; can u say; 4mo-5mo!! each harvest!!!! fuck dat!(unless u stagger grow em' to 4' h in a very large space and are very patient..) and dnt think i dont know one of the golden rules...quality over quanity..but u also know, unless you havent tried a variety..many autos pack more THC% than reg strains, including sativas..so there's you quality....SO TO ALL MY AUTO-FLOWERING LOVING PEEPS OUT THERE...GROW AUTO, GROW...cause i keep bomb azz smoke, and keep getting paid wid my staggard harevest..reg strains, CATCH UP!kiss-ass

jrh72582 said:

What a load of horseshit!! My first two grows were with Lowryder #2 and I'll never grow it again. I also tell people to pass on it for one reason you pretentious know-it-all - YIELD!!!! Yeah the smoke was decent and the high was okay. It was also nice to get some bud in about 10 weeks, but it's extremely vulnerable to pests (esp. spider mites) and its YIELD SUCKS! For this reason, I tell people to go with WW or something because although it takes longer, the yield is better and the resistance to pests and nute burn is MUCH better. If your impatience leads you to the lowryder, watch out for the pests and beware of nute burn. If you want actual yield, good smoke, and a good strain to cut your teeth on, go with something else. anything else...

or you can follow the advice above, which states to IGNORE ANYONE WHO DOESN'T PRAISE LR#2 - wtf!!!

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Pretty cool post, learned something new.. so I guess that's all that matters.

Yea, its a no brainer..

+rep to you dude ima try some just to fuck around

i thought the auto flower strains were all fem seeds? so when you get them there just like regular seeds some male some female?

Can lowryder be flowered under 12/12 light? I dont see any reason why it couldnt be.

Reason I ask is because my flower room is two HPS lights, and my veg room is a 250w metal halide. I think the LR would do better under the HPS's, instead of keeping it 24/0 with the halide. Thoughts?

Or should I grow it from seed with the halide, then throw it into 12/12 when it starts to flower?

The HPS room must stay 12 hours, and the Halide room must stay 24. I have non-autoflowering plants in there that need the light as well.

that's right..some are male and some are female, unless u get fem seeds

grodrowithme said:

i thought the auto flower strains were all fem seeds? so when you get them there just like regular seeds some male some female?

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No..lowryders should only go under 20/4 lights...18/6 is better...and for more trics, u then can put in under 12/12 in last week, (week 10) and use MH with lowryders in first 3wks..(they love it) then swicth to HPS in final 6-7wks..from what u said, obviously u cant grow the non-auto strains and lowryders in same flowering chamber(lowryders basically needs more light throughout life cycle)....hope this clearify things....

SenorSanteria said:

Can lowryder be flowered under 12/12 light? I dont see any reason why it couldnt be.

Reason I ask is because my flower room is two HPS lights, and my veg room is a 250w metal halide. I think the LR would do better under the HPS's, instead of keeping it 24/0 with the halide. Thoughts?

Or should I grow it from seed with the halide, then throw it into 12/12 when it starts to flower?

The HPS room must stay 12 hours, and the Halide room must stay 24. I have non-autoflowering plants in there that need the light as well.

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P@ssw0rd said:

sure you can but a standard strain 12/12 from seed will not be as potent as it would be if it was fully mature. LR2 however is mature and ready to harvest 8-9 weeks from seed. That is impossible to do with a standard strain unless your working from clone.

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Wait...I'm kinda confused, you're really praising this auto-strain, but as you stated it can be done with clones....if not better.

You can grow a huge mother and take clones than go right into 12/12 that will yield just as much as an auto strain....and there are NO MALES.

Why would you want to keep cutting 50% of your plants out because there males....yes cloning is intimidating at first to a newbie, but it's still not rocket science. I failed terribly my first time (overwatering, underwatering, too much light) and half my clones still pulled through!

No doubt it would be a useful starter run for a newbie....but I mean come on, if you can grow chronic auto's, what's stopping you from cloning? Christ it can be done with just water and no hormone....

I mean my whole grow started with one little clone...essentially my grow is ONE plant lol.....

when people decide what and how to grow they have many constraints and each person has his own!! if you want to create a perpetual harvest with clones u need 3 separated rooms one for cloning one for vegging and keeping mothers and one for flowering best scenario u need 2 rooms if u combine veg and clone. however autos need 1 room and you can always have a perpetual harvest. u create a sog u can plant whenever and flower at the same time!! then u need a whole line of nutrients to support your plants life whereas an auto strain needs little feeding if any at all!! then u dont need to learn how to clone u just plant the seed and grow the weed ur expenses are less in general and u can smoke bud after 8 weeks!! plus autos are sexed in their third week of life so you dont waste much by cutting out the males!! plus u can grow 20 female plants under a single 400hps!! and by this way u could easily surpass the 1g per watt which many growers cant even attain!! hope this helps!!

got2loveit said:

when people decide what and how to grow they have many constraints and each person has his own!! if you want to create a perpetual harvest with clones u need 3 separated rooms one for cloning one for vegging and keeping mothers and one for flowering best scenario u need 2 rooms if u combine veg and clone. however autos need 1 room and you can always have a perpetual harvest. u create a sog u can plant whenever and flower at the same time!! then u need a whole line of nutrients to support your plants life whereas an auto strain needs little feeding if any at all!! then u dont need to learn how to clone u just plant the seed and grow the weed ur expenses are less in general and u can smoke bud after 8 weeks!! plus autos are sexed in their third week of life so you dont waste much by cutting out the males!! plus u can grow 20 female plants under a single 400hps!! and by this way u could easily surpass the 1g per watt which many growers cant even attain!! hope this helps!!

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Very well said, if anyone has ever tried bud from an auto they know what a great grow it is so somebody send old Vic some bud

got2loveit said:

when people decide what and how to grow they have many constraints and each person has his own!! if you want to create a perpetual harvest with clones u need 3 separated rooms one for cloning one for vegging and keeping mothers and one for flowering best scenario u need 2 rooms if u combine veg and clone. however autos need 1 room and you can always have a perpetual harvest. u create a sog u can plant whenever and flower at the same time!! then u need a whole line of nutrients to support your plants life whereas an auto strain needs little feeding if any at all!! then u dont need to learn how to clone u just plant the seed and grow the weed ur expenses are less in general and u can smoke bud after 8 weeks!! plus autos are sexed in their third week of life so you dont waste much by cutting out the males!! plus u can grow 20 female plants under a single 400hps!! and by this way u could easily surpass the 1g per watt which many growers cant even attain!! hope this helps!!

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Very well said? He didn't need to yell through the whole post...

I am doing my whole grow in ONE ROOM. ....3 rooms? How much pot are you trying to grow? Have you never heard of black poly? Or....how about the fact you can fit a huge mom in a SMALL CLOSET! You're still trying to say that cloning and doing a perpetual SOG is soooooo hard. It can be done in a 6x6 room and you don't need to go perpetual, just cut clones every 2 months and you can get away with 1 mom as she can grow HUGE in 2 months of veg under cfl.

And when I say huge, no I don't mean you'll need a massive room, I mean that you're going to have a lot of tips to cut for clones, it will still fit in a 2x2 closet space. *rantrantrant*

And wow they sex in the third week, I know what sex my clones are before there first week....... and I can keep em all.

Let me restate my question, is an auto-strain only superior if you have time constraints, space constraints and budget constraints? If the answer is yes, than I know I don't need to bother with auto strains.

I think you can SOG w/ auto's, get alot of light, and they are superior, to what i have read, pack a shit load ina space, and leave them...

Creeper said:

I think you can SOG w/ auto's, get alot of light, and they are superior, to what i have read, pack a shit load ina space, and leave them...

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FALSE. They are only good for people with constraints and limitations. If you have little room and concerns about time, then try the auto-strains. I bet you'll switch after trying them, but try em...

If you aren't worried about space or time and want to grow dank weed, then get a regular strain or grow some bag seed. I bought into the whole auto-strain thing and bought 20 seeds. I got 11 females and the smoke was good, but the yield was so low! Then, I switched to WW and Afghani. I got much more bud, higher quality smoke, and the experience was much more enjoyable.

Another aspect of the auto-strains that isn't mentioned is that they are VERY susceptible to nute burn and infestation. They are finnicky and will die easily or become stunted due to any aberration. If you're a new grower, take that into consideration. You'll probably screw something up on your first grow...it happens...

so not worth it?

i wish i had a room 6x6 and if i did i would still grow autos in my garden but i would have regular strains too!! i like lowryders because they are so easy to grow!! yes i would have 4 mothers and as many clones as i could fit to grow but i would still have a couple of autos!! if you veg for two months you will see great yields and you will have a harvest to smoke!! then u can always use the veg room for seed production of autos and flower in the second compartment of the room some big plants!! but i have a space of 2.8x3.2x6.5 so i planted my autos!! i couldnt wait the extra month and a half to grow the regular strains either!! and if you check heftas journal you will see how mass production is attainable with a much greater gram to watt ratio than many professional growers!! i want to see how my grow goes and il judge from there but even if i had all i wished i would still put those autos in the veg room and increase time spent by reg plants in veg room for bigger yield and get to smoke some dank bud whilst doing this!! and im not a cfl advocate hps and mh is what u need imo!!!

Wow i thought this thread was long dead as i have been offline for a couple months or so. I had no idea i had caused such a comotion.

Bottom line to me is grow what works for you, I admit that i also grow non auto flower crops but i don't think this says anything bad for autos. Variety is after all the spice of life.

I also realize that some think i said autos are the best, there are many situations under which i would not grow autos, states with small plant limits for example. What i was trying to convey was that i feel autos can produce as good a quality as other top of the line strains. And given that growing with small lights is [ie 400 watts or less] how so many get there start i feel they can certainly be more ideal under those circumstances as small lights are best suited for short plants due to lost intensity over distance.

Also so many people do grow without the benifit of multiple light tight spaces. Not saying i recommend that but we all had to start somewhere and without multiple spaces, lights and schedules keeping mother plants and cloneing is difficult to say the least.

I will give it to you that culling males is a pain in the ass but i have found that the soil they were in can easily be reused if mixed into fresh. [ not a reccomendation just what i do ]

I will however have to argue with you that they burn easy and are weak against pests. Granted if you go all out with nutes then you could burn them, they simply require less then your used to. Start at 1/2 stregnth and work your way up slowly. I also almost never use "grow" or "veg" nutes i just go straight to bloom nutes after they show sex and the cotyledons begin to yellow. That way the plant gets what it needs and i save afew bucks on nutes as i never fed the males. Does it really strike you as a bad thing that they need less nutes? I rather like that fact as like i have said before i am a cheap mofo, who wants to spend more then they need to? As for the pest resistance i can't really say all pests but i can tell you this, I had 2 rooms seperated by panda ons side running a UK cheese, durban poison cross that had just started to bloom and one full of LR2, they were light tight but the cheese room vented into the LR2 room so they shared plenty of air. That being said the cheese suddenly showed a thrip infection. I was unsure how to handle it in the begining so it went untreated for better then a week. I was also unwilling to spray my beautifull ripening Lr2 with pesticides close to harvest so i never did, i only treated the cheese room and hoped for the best. It took a couple weeks but i beat the thrips and to my suprise i never found any damage on the LR2 so i would say that it is at least somewhat resistant to thrips for one.

I think that one key benifit of auto flower plants has also been overlooked in this discussion aswell is there unique abilities outside. First and foremost i can be harvesting my auto plants when others are only begining to show sex, so in that respect they are faster in terms of months not weeks. And there unusually long taproot seems to hold them through drought fairly well, and as stated before they don't need much for nutes so i can visit less too. Again not saying im putting out other plants but in july it is certainly my autos that i am most excited about.

As a small footnote i found a seedbank that sells autos for 40$ so if anyone wants the link so they can see what autos can do for themselves just let me know.

P@ssw0rd

SEND THE LINK P@sswOrd!! AND I TOO LOVE THE AUTOS WITH THE REG. STRAINS...TO PUT IT SIMPLE PEOPLE...JUST GROW BOTH...EXAMPLE; START YOUR AUTO SEEDS THE SAME TIME YOU TAKE CUTTINGS FROM YOUR REG STRAIN, (MOTHER)..WHILE YOUR WAITNG FOR YOU REG. STRAIN TO VEG, (2MO FOR 2-4OZ PER PLANT DRY WHEN FINISHED!) YOUR AUTOS WILL BE DONE! (2-2.5MO!)THIS WAY IT WONT SEEM SO DAMM LONG TO GROW AND WAIT FOR SOME DANK TO SMOKE/SELL.... HELL, IF U CAN, START ANOTHER BATCH OF AUTOS WHEN YOUR REG, STRAIN GOES UNDER 12/12 (FLOWERING)..WHEN YOUR AUTOS FINISH THIS TIME, SO WILL YOUR REG. STRAINS!!!! CAN U SAY; MORE BUD, MORE BUD AND MORE BUD!!! STAGGARED HARVESTS!!! (OF COURSE U WILL NEED 2 SEPARATE GROW AREAS, MAYBE THOSE PORTABLE GROW ROOMS...I LIKE THE HOMEBOX LINE) ALL OF THIS IS JUST MY OPINION THOUGH...DO WHATEVER LIGHTS YOUR FIRE...PEACE..................