Lower/inner leaves going limp

sirtalis

sirtalis

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On most of my plants there are a few lower leaves that have gone limp, while the rest of the plant is fine.

Do plants selectively kill off low fan leaves that don't receive enough light? I've only really seen plants steal nitrogen from lower leaves, but never go limp like this. They're going through the flowering stretch currently, and they look fine from the outside. I'd assume that if I was overwatering the whole plant would look unhappy but its quite the opposite....just a few of the lowest fan leaves.

Any thoughts?

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Pppowerparty

Pppowerparty

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Looks natural. I'd Prune / lollipop it that's Normally myself They're just a waste of energy. It's definitely not Nitrogen deficient. It can be as simple as it needs more water too. I like to build a trench it helps but I don't always do it.
 
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SmichiganOG

SmichiganOG

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sirtalis said:
On most of my plants there are a few lower leaves that have gone limp, while the rest of the plant is fine.

Do plants selectively kill off low fan leaves that don't receive enough light? I've only really seen plants steal nitrogen from lower leaves, but never go limp like this. They're going through the flowering stretch currently, and they look fine from the outside. I'd assume that if I was overwatering the whole plant would look unhappy but its quite the opposite....just a few of the lowest fan leaves.

Any thoughts?

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Leaves should yellow before dying off like That IME. Looks like they need lollipopping anyway though. Have you used BT or anything for caterpillars/bugs? I never leave leaves that close to the ground.
 
sirtalis

sirtalis

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SmichiganOG said:
Leaves should yellow before dying off like That IME. Looks like they need lollipopping anyway though. Have you used BT or anything for caterpillars/bugs? I never leave leaves that close to the ground.
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Yea I've been using BT + Grandevo for caterpillars and bugs. I'm honestly hesitant to thin because there are botrytis spores all over and they enter through pruning wounds. Some of my plants I prune the most end up with the worst budrot. Maybe I could get around this by laying mulch so no leaves touch the soil.
 
SmichiganOG

SmichiganOG

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sirtalis said:
Yea I've been using BT + Grandevo for caterpillars and bugs. I'm honestly hesitant to thin because there are botrytis spores all over and they enter through pruning wounds. Some of my plants I prune the most end up with the worst budrot. Maybe I could get around this by laying mulch so no leaves touch the soil.
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I always use biological fungicide. Actinovate is one but there are cheaper alternatives if you choose to go that route. Botrytis will win once you get nice buds.
 
sirtalis

sirtalis

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SmichiganOG said:
I always use biological fungicide. Actinovate is one but there are cheaper alternatives if you choose to go that route. Botrytis will win once you get nice buds.
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Yea I have Regalia and Southern Ag Garden Friendly fungicide for botrytis (same bacteria as Stargus).
 
SmichiganOG

SmichiganOG

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It's up to you but I'd use it if you're not. IME it's effective. I don't think taking off leaves is going to effect a damn thing. Others will likely weigh in so whatever choices you make are up to you.
 
HydoDan

HydoDan

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sirtalis said:
Yea I've been using BT + Grandevo for caterpillars and bugs. I'm honestly hesitant to thin because there are botrytis spores all over and they enter through pruning wounds. Some of my plants I prune the most end up with the worst budrot. Maybe I could get around this by laying mulch so no leaves touch the soil.
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Seems to me that rotting moldy leaves would have a better chance of spreading mold than removing them..
In my experience bud rot starts at the middle and rots its way out..
 
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