Low Stress Training (LST) Guide

Rollbluntz

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THanks guys, she sure is smelly!! Starting to get a blue/purple tone to the bud. Wanna touch the hiney!!
Damn! This plant I got indoors right now is getting a differet hue to it also. The temps in the attic get a little bit lower at night so I think that has something to do with it.
 

jewgrow

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Well the difference between the training methods are that one, is low stress, and the other is of higher stress. Using LST then topping is almost redundant in theory. Personally I would top first then LST. I topped my super lemon haze and it grew 3.5 heads (one significantly smaller), those heads are being LST'd down and it loves it. Topping after you LST will just stress the plant later in its life cycle, get all the major snips out early; then LST.
 

Rollbluntz

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Well the difference between the training methods are that one, is low stress, and the other is of higher stress. Using LST then topping is almost redundant in theory. Personally I would top first then LST. I topped my super lemon haze and it grew 3.5 heads (one significantly smaller), those heads are being LST'd down and it loves it. Topping after you LST will just stress the plant later in its life cycle, get all the major snips out early; then LST.
Yea it's all a matter of preference I guess.
 

omri

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lst is a very decent way to grow i have a specific question about veggin i'd like to know at what earliest time can u start to flower to determine sex and then revert to veg to grow out i have not done this before any help would be welcome thanks
 

dr green dre

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Im not sure how early if not straight away but you'll need a magnifier im sure . Maybe check some of the advance tech threads might be a post on it there.
DGD

p.s
Im sure some one will know the answer..:!:
 

mcpurple

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lst is a very decent way to grow i have a specific question about veggin i'd like to know at what earliest time can u start to flower to determine sex and then revert to veg to grow out i have not done this before any help would be welcome thanks
i would wait till it had at least 4 nodes to do that, or you could top it and place the top in a cup of water and put it under 12/12 and it will show sex with out having to reveg a plant
 

Rollbluntz

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lst is a very decent way to grow i have a specific question about veggin i'd like to know at what earliest time can u start to flower to determine sex and then revert to veg to grow out i have not done this before any help would be welcome thanks
I would wait until it was at least 4 nodes high. It has to be a mature enough plant to show sex first.
 

mcpurple

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if you veg it will show sex after awhile when it is mature as well, ive had pre flowers as soon as 3 week veg from seed
 

Rollbluntz

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if you veg it will show sex after awhile when it is mature as well, ive had pre flowers as soon as 3 week veg from seed
Yea eventually in veg plants will show sex, but I like to thin out the males first so I don't waste a bunch of time pampering a male plant ya know?
 

DJ GreenThumb

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So does anyone use supercropping anymore or has LST become the predominant method to be used? Are there any instances where supercropping would be preffered over LST? Maybe strain dependent?
 

Rollbluntz

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So does anyone use supercropping anymore or has LST become the predominant method to be used? Are there any instances where supercropping would be preffered over LST? Maybe strain dependent?
I still see people using supercropping but I personally have never tried it, so I can't really say if lst is better or if it should be used in different circumstances. I'm sure there's someone who knows but not this guy. :)
 

dr green dre

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Ive never super cropped myself .
Has anybody though about cropping the bottom buds first? as they seem to be the ones that get ripe first.


A cut & paste fro grow log..

Heres a look at some of the cheese in the tent, the leaves have started going all yellow and rusty in places, i have changed the res on all pots this week and its not gotten any better..



The buds have started to show in the main room ,looking kinda puiny at the mo but i know whats coming!!
Below is room and tent in veg, the Ak48 has some massive leaves almost cabbage like..
Ak


some last shots of the frosty cheese...
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mcpurple

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Ive never super cropped myself .
Has anybody though about cropping the bottom buds first? as they seem to be the ones that get ripe first.


A cut & paste fro grow log..

Heres a look at some of the cheese in the tent, the leaves have started going all yellow and rusty in places, i have changed the res on all pots this week and its not gotten any better..



The buds have started to show in the main room ,looking kinda puiny at the mo but i know whats coming!!
Below is room and tent in veg, the Ak48 has some massive leaves almost cabbage like..
Ak


some last shots of the frosty cheese...
Attached Thumbnails
nice plants man, and as far as your question well, ive never noticed the bottoms buds ripen first, its usally the tops that are more ripe and thats why alot of outdoor growers do a staggered harvest, where they cut the tops and leave the bottom nugs for a few more weeks. and super cropping the lower branches i dont think would be good, supper cropping is to allow the under neath growth more light and for the shoots to grow and catch up with the main tops, if you cropped the bottom ones first they would just be shorter and further away from the light
 

dr green dre

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nice plants man, and as far as your question well, ive never noticed the bottoms buds ripen first, its usally the tops that are more ripe and thats why alot of outdoor growers do a staggered harvest, where they cut the tops and leave the bottom nugs for a few more weeks. and super cropping the lower branches i dont think would be good, supper cropping is to allow the under neath growth more light and for the shoots to grow and catch up with the main tops, if you cropped the bottom ones first they would just be shorter and further away from the light
Kool mcpurple i'll take your word on that,as you can tell i now f'all about super cropping.
Never done and i didnt even know thats what it was ,i ve heard about taking off the tops first but i have'nt personal checked it up.
Ive never put the lower buds under a micro so i cant say if they are really ripe or not but i mean just by the hair colours most of lower ones turn darker before the tops, and the bud hairs look like they recede first. I judge by hair colour/receding hairs and when i can see the bud swelling up , i only got a micro for my last grow so im new to the trich watching.

glad you answered the question, how much more do you think you'll get off staggerd harvesting?And if you chop the main cola when its ripe are your lower buds going to be "over ripe" ? I read something about thc losing potency or turning more to cbn if you leave your bud to long?
 

mcpurple

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well its mainly outdoor growers who get more yeild, but i have buddies who say they get 2-3 more ounces doing a staggered harvest. and i dont think the lower ones will get over ripe cuz they are usally less ripe then the tops.
 
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