Low Humidity? Keep a pale of water in your GrowRoom...

socomplicated

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Firstly, what is humidity? Well, humidity refers to the amount of water vapor present in the air (water vapor is simply water in its gas form). It is often referred to as a percentage, for example, a humidity of 75% means that the air currently contains 75% of the total maximum water vapor it can hold at that temperature. Also, as air increases in temperature it becomes capable of holding more water vapor, meaning temperature and humidity is related. As a result the percentage used to measure humidity is referred to as Relative Humidity (RH).

A lot of novice cultivators try to maintain a low humidity; this is a common mistake and is largely down to the idea that high humidity encourages disease amongst plants. Whilst partly true, this “play it safe” attitude can have its own adverse effects on how your cannabis plants grow.

The reason it is so important to your plants is because it will affect the rate at which they transpire. During transpiration plants release water vapor into the air, it functions along the same lines as osmosis – that the water levels inside and outside the plant will try to level out to equilibrium. This means that if you have a low humidity, your plants will rapidly transpire as water is drawn out into the air, reducing the amount of water within the plant and potentially having detrimental effects when water levels reach to low. If humidity is high then plants will transpire at a much slower rate and have a lesser potential for loss. It should be noted that cannabis plants have a “humidity” rating of pretty much 100%, so they will always transpire (which is OK as it is an essential part of its functioning).*

So why do plants transpire? Well basically, they do it for a number of very important reasons. It is done for temperature control, it is how plants cool themselves and regulate their own temperature. It is also how the cannabis plants move minerals and nutrients about, as water leaves the plant it draws more up from the roots, allowing for the absorption of nutrients from the soil. Finally it is how your cannabis plants get the carbon dioxide they need out of the air – Plants open their stomata to let water vapor out, and in the process carbon dioxide gets in.

If the humidity is too low, then your cannabis plants are going to do a lot of transpiring and it will play havoc with their transportation systems. They will lose a lot of water and begin to exhibit the damage usually caused by dryness – stunted new leaves, shriveling old leaves and dying flowers.

As mentioned, whilst low humidity is usually the pitfall of most novice growers, it is for good reason – they have heard or read somewhere that high humidity is likely to cause the spread of disease, and they are not far off. High humidity has its own perils. In a grow room with excessive humidity and very little air movement (ventilation) you run the risk of exposing your plants to fungal disease, mildew and root rot. However, it is very easy to avoid, with careful grow room planning and management you should not find yourself in a situation where this happens.*

The best way to monitor the RH of your grow room is to use a hygrometer, this should give you an accurate read out of the exact water vapor content of the air.

Humidity effect cannabis plants throughout their entire life cycle, below explains how it affects them at each stage and what the optimal humidity is.

Cutting/Seedling Stage:

At this stage the ideal RH is 70-80%. This RH will ensure that the seedlings do not put too much of their energy into their transpiration process, as there is not much of an imbalance. This will allow your seedling to focus their energy into root and leaf growth. Your little ones will also need to maintain some level of transpiration in order to draw up nutrients from the growing medium.

A great way to control the humidity of you grow room is with good ventilation, and the use of a humidifier when humidity are beginning to get a bit low. A humidifier is an easy to obtain, cheap bit of equipment that simply introduces more water vapor into the air. When used in conjunction with a hygrometer you should easily be able to keep RH within your cannabis plants' safe limit.

Vegetative Stage:

In this stage the RH can be 50-80%.*Now that your plants have entered their main growing phase the RH can be a lot more varied. This is because your plant will now have a much bigger surface area with which to transpire, meaning less stress is put on it through faster transpiration.

However, this does mean your plants can transpire at a much greater rate, be sure to keep an eye on your plants. If the levels of humidity drops below a safe level then your plants will transpire so rapidly that they run the risk of over fertilization from their fast uptake of nutrients drawn in from the soil.

Flowering Stage:

Once your cannabis is flowering you will want to consider dropping the RH greatly. This is in order to reduce the risk of the dreaded rot. You ideally want you grow room to have a relative humidity of 40-50% now.

Keeping track and controlling your grow rooms humidity is important if you want to really get the most out of your plants. It is another important factor that is usually overlooked by less experienced cultivators. Now that you have a better understanding of its impact you should be able to utilize the knowledge to improve the quality of your grow.
 

charface

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That was awesome.
Thanks.
Knowing why I do things is
always better than just memorizing
sets of numbers.
 

PetFlora

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Socomplicated, if we had a Like button, I would, but will Rep you

Now, buy a floating pond fogger + a separate timer, and of course you need a RH meter/device- usually part of any decent temp gauge

Depending on the volume you need to control, set the timer for 5 minutes. Now, 5 minute timers are ~ $50. If you can't afford one, then use a 15 minute interval timer and adjust how often on your RH readings

Caution pond foggers will fail in > 300ppm water. If need be, buy a gallon of distilled
 

sonar

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Good article. These last seedlings I I started I put a bag over the top of the cut with a few holes poked in. Held them in place with some rubberbands up towards the lip of the solo cups. That seemed to help a a lot to get things started but took them off after about a week. I have some bigger plastic bags I think I am going to put them back on one or two of the plants to see if that helps.
 

zander19

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no need for HUM what so ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in never need it at all an my girls look great always have
 

charface

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I can never argue with another's
experience but still I try to find optimal
conditions for a plant and do everything
I can to maintain that. That way if anything goes wrong I can at least
elimate causes with a fair amount of certainty. For example, I read my
rh hi/low meter daily but only out of habit
because my room is set to maintain that
balance. I also dry in that room after harvest so its nice to already have a handle on the temps and humidity.


**H@Ck ALLeRt**
Any info I give is based on what I would be comfortable doing.
Please get other opinion.

In nature plants don't live in plastic buckets but at my house they do or they get the f**k out.
 

zander19

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I seem to find HUM anywhere from 10% to 40% veg-flower my plants do just great but i seen some how have fail some how?? must just be me
 

Cobnobuler

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to many fucking dick heads on hear fucking up people with shit info about crap they dont need to worrie about.
....Such as spelling and proper use of grammer. No, we don't worry bout stuff like that here.
You're mostly full of shit pally. Humidlty levels ARE an important part of the growing process. Too low can hinder growth in the veg state and too high in the flowering stage can promote bud rot and mold.
YES, its not the whole picture, but it is just one of many important factors.

...Anyway, I'm kind of struggling with low humidity myself at the present time. My plants are still vegging, Its damned cold outside, and my humidity level in my growroom is too low and yes, my growth rate isn't what it could be.
I tried the pail of water thing but it isn't picking that up at all.
I guess I gotta break down and get a humidifier, but I didnt really want to do that.
Except for this time of year I usually have more problems keeping it down than bringing it up.
 

zander19

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well it worked for me that's all i am saying. now as for your problem i have seen small humidifiers online at ebay for cheap that will help you,

P.S no need to be a knob due to my spell. was not a good time for me as i was in a motorbike crash so my head go a did bashed up... you get me

happy growing hope you grow went well
 
Thats why newbies dont know what to beleive when the go on these sights people like you. Some people live were there is literally below 10 humidity on average. If you get below 20 percent and your plants will die. They really prefer around 50 to 60% lowering it a little if you have pm or mold issues. But you really dont know what your saying so why be a smart ass.
Yeah,

So Ive had a problem with little or no humidity in my tent ever since i started my grow. today, in an attempt to maybe just blow some cooler air around the room since temps were kinda high, i filled a economy sized coffeecan full of ice, and put that shit into the tent. Now, obviously this didnt do a god damn thing to the tent temp wise, but after the ice melted, i kept the can in there(about 3/4 gal), and as it sat in there, the heat from my light evaporated the water slowly. Humidity went from LO to 35%, and its been constant for the last 12 hours.

This is better than having to get one of those sprayers that spritzes the room every ten minutes to keep shit humid, because with this there is no need to accidentally foliar feed your plants. With the intensity of an HID light shining on them, you could easily burn your plants if one water droplet stays on a leaf - magnifying glass effect. So i would say, just so other people might be able to testify to this - if your having humidity issues, throw a bucket of ice into your growroom. As it melts and evaporates, the humidity will get higher. Check it out :D

-K1.
High humidity during veg is key.55/ 70 is good.40 max during flower. Get a tray and some lava rock or river rock.lay the rock in the tray , and pour warm water on top. enough to cover the bottom. . If u have 1 or 2 intake and exhaust fans and another occilating fan your golden.
 
ok none of you guys seen to know anything. if you know something you would know that ALL !!!!!!!!! cannabis can be growin in 0 to 40% HUM every grow i have ever worried about the HUM in the room. and i dont have any problems because i dont listen to people that think because they grow 1 plant there all think there growers NO !!! so b4 you take the first thing people on hear say to you look it up first. so far i have seen many people lie to people give people the wrong info. from what i see there is to many fucking dick heads on hear fucking up people with shit info about crap they dont need to worrie about.
Dude. No need to be abusive here. Tell people info to your knowledge , or dont reply at all. Ive been growing in many different grow rooms , cabinets etc..Ive never had a bad crop reading the bud bible for 30 years and getting tips from others. So please be kind here... DICKHEAD..LOL.
 
I know this is an old thread, but maybe someone reading can shed some light on a problem I've been having. Make a long story short, in 5 years of growing I can't recall ever losing a seeding. I also can't recall starting a grow in the dead of winter either. I've been having nothing but problems. Lost at least very expensive seeds. This last round I have a few that made it about a month, but they look like they are 2 weeks old. They almost look like overwatering, but I know that isn't the case as I said I've been growing a few years now and I know I am not overwatering. If it is low humidity and the are retaining water, could that cause them to have syptoms of overwatering?
for sure. Thats a true sign. Create humidity and your babies will love u..
 

butsack

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Lol I wish I had the "problem" of low humidity lol. Usually run 2 commercial dehumidifiers and can't keep it under 50%.
 
Lol I wish I had the "problem" of low humidity lol. Usually run 2 commercial dehumidifiers and can't keep it under 50%.
what size room / area are you growing in? tube light set up? wattage of lights? what kind of lights? how many fans are u running> where do u live?
 

butsack

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what size room / area are you growing in? tube light set up? wattage of lights? what kind of lights? how many fans are u running> where do u live?
He he thx for your concern ;) I live in a rain forest where the humidity is often in the high 90s. If I run both dehumidifiers 24/7 I can keep it 40-45 but then my temps go from 75 to 90.. So I only worry myself about it during lights out.. I can pull 15-20 gals of water out of my air in 12 hours no problem.
 
He he thx for your concern ;) I live in a rain forest where the humidity is often in the high 90s. If I run both dehumidifiers 24/7 I can keep it 40-45 but then my temps go from 75 to 90.. So I only worry myself about it during lights out.. I can pull 15-20 gals of water out of my air in 12 hours no problem.
Damn. I would consider running a portable ac unit. In the room if its big enough,Or pipe it in from the outside. Do u get Powdery mildew prob in summer?
 

butsack

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Damn. I would consider running a portable ac unit. In the room if its big enough,Or pipe it in from the outside. Do u get Powdery mildew prob in summer?
I have never gotten Powdery mildew on the inside girls *knock on wood* however, i have to pay very close attention in the last half of flower because bud rot/bud mold is VERY easy to miss before it's too late.

And yeah before next summer I need to get a good a/c unit... They work as dehumidifiers as well don't they?

Any suggestions on a good portable unit? The room it needs to cool is 150 cubic feet
 
I have never gotten Powdery mildew on the inside girls *knock on wood* however, i have to pay very close attention in the last half of flower because bud rot/bud mold is VERY easy to miss before it's too late.

And yeah before next summer I need to get a good a/c unit... They work as dehumidifiers as well don't they?

Any suggestions on a good portable unit? The room it needs to cool is 150 cubic feet
the type i had was a multi speed unit on wheels with an exhaust tube that would normally vent out the window. Put the unit in the room and pipe the hot exhaust out of the room.That should be enough cool air..
 
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