Lost 21 TRILLION $ ?

tangerinegreen555

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Are there? I was only taught the one way.

I'm not sure why this thread has your goat up. I'm sorry if I have somehow offended you. I assure you it was not intentional.
I mealy thought that 21 Trillion dollars having gone missing in a short time was interesting. If 21 trillion dollars of art had of gone missing from The Lourve or a diamond mine id also be interested.

I don't mind the odd quid and 21 Trillion is just such ALOT of cash.
And there's a lot of bizzare accounting methods. You only know one? Really.
Lifo Fifo, first day Accounting 101.

And that's just the 1st day of class.
 

choomer

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Its just such a shit load of money in a small time frame..its not 21 billion..or even a hundred billion..its 21 Trillion. Such a large number its impossible to imagine.
It would just about pay off Americas whole national debt. http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Black budgets, as I understand it come out of budgets. For eg the air force may get 20 billion for the next 5 years, they may then funnel a few billion into a "black fund". That money is still over seen and accounted for- every $. otherwise some one could and would transfer it to themselves.
It's interesting that it's approx. the US debt, you pegged that one LL. ;)

Some might blame accounting, some oversight, some presiding party politics, but it all boils down to theft.
 

Rob Roy

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The only difference between US Dollars and monopoly money is the belief that one has more value than the other.



 

Grandpapy

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So, that 21 trillion is from 1998-2015, what about years prior to 98?
Before the Halliburton take over of Washington?

21 trillion could make a few of Solar Panels that would eliminate the need for oil wars.

At $17,032 per home (retail price), the cost to install a 3kW solar system on every home in the US would be $2.22 trillion. Remove this cost from the $2.33 trillion we started with and we're left with roughly $107 billion that could be used for government administration and fraud prevention.Oct 24, 2011

Education is just too expensive for the general public.

"if it's good for Halliburton..."
 
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gjs4786

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Before the Halliburton take over of Washington?

21 trillion could make a few of Solar Panels that would eliminate the need for oil wars.

At $17,032 per home (retail price), the cost to install a 3kW solar system on every home in the US would be $2.22 trillion. Remove this cost from the $2.33 trillion we started with and we're left with roughly $107 billion that could be used for government administration and fraud prevention.Oct 24, 2011

Education is just too expensive for the general public.

"if it's good for Halliburton..."
Fossil fuel has held a grip on us since the invention of the internal combustion engine, and actually before that. Sure, clean energy technology wasn't then where it is now, but that's because it's been suppressed and suppressed and suppressed. Imagine, if the development of clean energy was actually encouraged for all those years, we'd be where we are now 50 years ago, minimum. You can't just disrupt a multi-billion dollar quarterly profit machine like that without a fight. And winning the fight? Good luck! :)

It's the same reason nothing else makes any sense, like tobacco companies making billions at the expense of millions of lives. It doesn't make any sense until you accept that we're all just a potential dollar to a few corporations, and we are of no use if we're united. Can't get organized when everything around you is chaotic.

For 21 trillion we could mine the moon of Helium3 and develop clean helium fusion technology 30 times over. Imagine how much could be saved not having to clean up after ourselves the way we make energy now. The governments bread and butter comes directly from inefficiency.
 

Rob Roy

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Before the Halliburton take over of Washington?

21 trillion could make a few of Solar Panels that would eliminate the need for oil wars.

At $17,032 per home (retail price), the cost to install a 3kW solar system on every home in the US would be $2.22 trillion. Remove this cost from the $2.33 trillion we started with and we're left with roughly $107 billion that could be used for government administration and fraud prevention.Oct 24, 2011

Education is just too expensive for the general public.

"if it's good for Halliburton..."
Eliminating wars is a good thing.
 

gjs4786

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They might even declare a war on some plants eh?
Oh, most certainly. As the world population swells, so too does the need to feed that population. Gotta have land to grow more food. Always has and always will be about the land and its natural resources. Be it for oil or crop acreage or water...
 

Rob Roy

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Oh, most certainly. As the world population swells, so too does the need to feed that population. Gotta have land to grow more food. Always has and always will be about the land and its natural resources. Be it for oil or crop acreage or water...

People do need to be fed and there are lots of people.

Land helps too, especially to feed billions, but vertical food growing and diverse intensive micro grows may become more prevalent among the independence seeking gardeners. I'm helping a friend landscape a small business and we're discussing some edible landscaping like blueberries and peppers and tomatoes in attractive roof boxes.

Back when I used to believe that government could do good things, I always wondered why city sidewalks weren't planted with fruit and nut trees etc.
 

gjs4786

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People do need to be fed and there are lots of people.

Land helps too, especially to feed billions, but vertical food growing and diverse intensive micro grows may become more prevalent among the independence seeking gardeners. I'm helping a friend landscape a small business and we're discussing some edible landscaping like blueberries and peppers and tomatoes in attractive roof boxes.

Back when I used to believe that government could do good things, I always wondered why city sidewalks weren't planted with fruit and nut trees etc.
Yeah I have to agree with you, individual farming has taken off. Farmers markets are a thing now. Community gardens, urban city plots. "Organic" is a thing now. People really can grow a lot of their own food if they commit to changing their diet. I see a vegetable garden and I see what a lot of people see when they look at a McDonalds. I'm not some ultra vegan, love meet and I'll eat fast food, but at the individual level, people can grow 95% of their food which would reduce the need for these vast, expansive farms. Not only that, it's healthy, educational, and sustainable.
 

gjs4786

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Back when I used to believe that government could do good things, I always wondered why city sidewalks weren't planted with fruit and nut trees etc.
Right??? Sadly, I don't feel like the idea ever crossed their minds. If it did, they probably (wrongly) assumed no one would be interested in harvesting them and the husks would just litter the streets and sidewalks. There are so many ideas like this that just make so much sense. Not to come across as pessimistic, just observant, it seems like the more something makes sense, the less likely it's going to be implemented to try and encourage some positive social change.
 

Rob Roy

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Right??? Sadly, I don't feel like the idea ever crossed their minds. If it did, they probably (wrongly) assumed no one would be interested in harvesting them and the husks would just litter the streets and sidewalks. There are so many ideas like this that just make so much sense. Not to come across as pessimistic, just observant, it seems like the more something makes sense, the less likely it's going to be implemented to try and encourage some positive social change.
One persons independent initiative can create a ripple effect of positivity.
 
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