Hey, good to know, man. Thanks.One of my first grows was with Reclining Buddha which is a very small strain but powerful. I still have that strain going even though I'm an outdoor grower. i prefer many small ones to fewer large ones.
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Looking for short, non-auto, fast harvest, Indica strain for Aerogarden...
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lurkmaster
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Yea, all autoflowering/dwarf strains have been bred with ruderalis plants for the autoflowering trait.
Ruderalis plants have ~0% THC content.
They do not have a veg period, they start flowering from seed. They only form one big cola, very short, very fast growing.
It sounds like a good batch of genes minus the thc part, and I feel like thats a little bit more important that harvest time, its about the smoke, not just bag appeal.
CrackerJax
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Yes, without Ruderalis there wouldn't be auto's. While the ruderalis is a weaker strain (wild strain), it is easily improved with cross breeding as ALL of the popular strains were. Weed was once all weak compared to what is being produced now.
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lurkmaster
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It might not be as big of a deal as I am making it sound like, but...Yes, without Ruderalis there wouldn't be auto's. While the ruderalis is a weaker strain (wild strain), it is easily improved with cross breeding as ALL of the popular strains were. Weed was once all weak compared to what is being produced now.
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I just have problems growing something I know is inferior, you know what I mean?
You had to sacrifice THC content for quick harvest. You might as well 12/12 from seed on a regular seed if you want a faster harvest.
Can you top autoflowers? And what about LST? Or does it grow too fast for those techniques? After some research I was thinking about whether or not one could drastically improve the yield of a dwarf by topping followed by LST into a ScrOG. Is that possible or am I delusional? Or has nobody tried and am I destined to be the guinea pig, lol? Thanks for the info, bro.
Touche, sales person, touche.Yes, without Ruderalis there wouldn't be auto's. While the ruderalis is a weaker strain (wild strain), it is easily improved with cross breeding as ALL of the popular strains were. Weed was once all weak compared to what is being produced now.
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I see what you mean about an inferior grow, but also remember this will be my first grow. Ever. And if I grow a non-auto, I'm growing it properly. I'm not about to abuse my babies with 12/12 from seed, lol.
lurkmaster
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You can't clone autoflowering plants, I would think you can top them, but IDK.
You just have to keep in mind, they are always in flowering.
You just have to keep in mind, they are always in flowering.
Yeah, def. Well, I guess it's worth trying, right?
lurkmaster
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I have been really curious about it, but hesitant to test it out myself.
CrackerJax
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There is no point in topping autos since the cycle can not be adjusted. You will just end up with a smaller (already small) plant. Autos pour all their energy into flowering quite quickly, and if topped it won't grow new growth but simply finish with what is left. That is my understanding anyways.
But hey try it and see....
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But hey try it and see....
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easygrinder
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the guy above is correct
easygrinder
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this guy is unfortunately incorrect,
he is right about it being mango though,
nirvana have just renamed kc brains strain, its exactly the same thing, nirvana didn't used to call it mango, for some reason they held back from stealing the name of this one,
strange really because stealing has never been an issue for them before
lurkmaster
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Lol, you are so quick to call me incorrect, yet you give no response as to what is 'correct'.
Do some research man.
F1- generation : The progeny produced from a cross between two parents (P1) is called First Filial or F1 generation.
F2- generation : The progeny resulting from self hybridization or inbreeding of F1 individuals is called Second Filial or F2 generation.
https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/36545-diffrence-between-f1-f2-f3.html
didn't know it was a KC brains strain though, interesting..
easygrinder
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It's actually a lot more complicated than that, you don't have to seed from landrace strains to get f1 hybrids, its more to do with phenotypes and the mixture and then stabilizing the strain.
sensi seeds skunk #1 is a hybrid, although because its been going for so long the strain has become so stable it is now considered to be pure breeding.
You can mix two different f1 hybrid strains together and stabilize it and make an f1 hybrid.
If it were only from purebreeding strains then every strain out there that is an f1 must be so closely related because there are so few pure breeding strains.
the whole hybrid thing and what classifies as an f1 hybrid is so mishmashed and most seed bank use different standards to judge what is f1 and what is not.
It also doesn't have to be from two parents, sensi seed bank produce black domina which is a 4 way strain, this is an f1
try doing some research man
lurkmaster
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Right, so I linked you a thread, pretty sure you are just talking out of your ass. (18 posts, your response MUST be credible, right?)
If you keep breeding F1 strains they will stabilize. Then you can breed your stabilized hybrids. 4 way strain is that of two stabilized F1 hybrids.
easygrinder
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so in your last post you just said that you can get an f1 hybrid from non pure breeding plants?
in your original post you said it came 50/50 from purebreeding strains
your even contradicting you,
its a good job its only a post count that makes you credible because if it were what you were saying you would look like a dick
easygrinder
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i'll give you a link now and it will show you 1 why i haven't bothered to put it up here, and 2 just how much more complicated it is than just p1 x p1 = f1
http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbotany-removed/marijuanabotany3.html
http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbotany-removed/marijuanabotany3.html
lurkmaster
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I never said that you CAN'T have a f1 hybrid from non pure breeding plants, you are just trying to twist my words around, I'm done arguing.
And lastly, troll somewhere else, I see that your entire goal in this thread is to try to undermine my effort to help people by acting like an ass.
easygrinder
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your words are those of a man who has lost an argument,I never said that you CAN'T have a f1 hybrid from non pure breeding plants, you are just trying to twist my words around, I'm done arguing.
And lastly, troll somewhere else, I see that your entire goal in this thread is to try to undermine my effort to help people by acting like an ass.
just because you have nothing further to add that is valid, i have not been rude i have just noticed that what you put in the first instance was incorrect, if you can't handle the correction then forums are not for you.
lurkmaster
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easygrinder
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resorting to insults is the sign of a weak mind but you crack onI didn't want to argue in the first place
you are just a tool.