Looking for Gorilla Glue #4

Racerboy,
It's on the skunky side and needs carbon and UV if you got it. Wicked in a bag dried. Like Green crack in your pocket in an elevator.
This is week 4 or 5, Resin bomb at this early stage even more than some at 8 weeks. It can yield well too.

Yea I passed on this one when everyone got in line for their handouts lol... Don't get me wrong I'm sure its dank, but I like to have the lesser available strains, I can always trade one of 12 people nugs for nugs to get some smoke.

Cannabis is similar to the music industry imo. Everyone knows that Eric Clapton is an amazing guitar player (he's the GSC or GG#4 of music) but tucked away at some college teaching guitar is some guy you've never heard of that can blow any mainstream success away. There are a ton of elite clone only's but the strongest, the dankest herb is probably in a basement in Iowa grown from seed and won't be passed around for fear of criminal charges.

Grojak said:

Yea I passed on this one when everyone got in line for their handouts lol... Don't get me wrong I'm sure its dank, but I like to have the lesser available strains, I can always trade one of 12 people nugs for nugs to get some smoke.

Cannabis is similar to the music industry imo. Everyone knows that Eric Clapton is an amazing guitar player (he's the GSC or GG#4 of music) but tucked away at some college teaching guitar is some guy you've never heard of that can blow any mainstream success away. There are a ton of elite clone only's but the strongest, the dankest herb is probably in a basement in Iowa grown from seed and won't be passed around for fear of criminal charges.

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I agree somewhat grojak and trust me im all for the home grower having unique cuts but as one myself I cannot possibly go through the numbers that some of these guys have and do in finding these cuts..not speaking on all because I am sure a good percentage are hermie mistakes from some hack with a closet(like myself) but they happen to excel at promotion.

just that if a cut you source has been around 10 years(just a number) and it's still desired by many, there has to be something to it.

urban1026835 said:

I agree somewhat grojak and trust me im all for the home grower having unique cuts but as one myself I cannot possibly go through the numbers that some of these guys have and do in finding these cuts..not speaking on all because I am sure a good percentage are hermie mistakes from some hack with a closet(like myself) but they happen to excel at promotion.

just that if a cut you source has been around 10 years(just a number) and it's still desired by many, there has to be something to it.

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I'm sure it'll find it's way in my garden as did GSC eventually (and has since left the garden) but for now I'll let the whole world grow it for me.

Like I said I'm sure it's dank but it's the GSC's of 2014... and soon every hack breeder will have a Gorrilla Dawg or Guerrilla Scout Cookies or Guerill Queen (you know TGA is going to give it that Space Queen treatment) So much dank, so much variety never enough space... what would I cull to fit this in, I'd drive myself crazy trying to figure it out.


Funny thing about popping seeds, you can pop 100 and never find that pheno you're looking for and you friend can pop 4 and find the dankest of the dank.... I say everyone should make room for 1 - 2 seed runs a year even if their just popping 5 beans each time, my buddha tahoe is the dankest of the dank, my #1 strain (ATF, Sensi Star, Dj Blueberry, Strawberry Cough, Chem 91 to name some of its competition) and that bastard was a single fem'd seed, freebie from my first attitude order, and the only plant from that seed popping session still around.

"momma always said popping seeds is like a box a chocolates"

Sounds like you have some good keepers. So many to chose, so little space.
What is the history of the atf you run jak?

Pepe le skunk said:

Sounds like you have some good keepers. So many to chose, so little space.
What is the history of the atf you run jak?

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to quote someone much more famous than me (henry ford) History is Bunk

It's supposed to be legit ATF, known as Uranus cut 'round these parts... from all photos I can find it adds up, really nice indica bush, but a bitch to trim.

Grojak said:

I'm sure it'll find it's way in my garden as did GSC eventually (and has since left the garden) but for now I'll let the whole world grow it for me.

Like I said I'm sure it's dank but it's the GSC's of 2014... and soon every hack breeder will have a Gorrilla Dawg or Guerrilla Scout Cookies or Guerill Queen (you know TGA is going to give it that Space Queen treatment) So much dank, so much variety never enough space... what would I cull to fit this in, I'd drive myself crazy trying to figure it out.


Funny thing about popping seeds, you can pop 100 and never find that pheno you're looking for and you friend can pop 4 and find the dankest of the dank.... I say everyone should make room for 1 - 2 seed runs a year even if their just popping 5 beans each time, my buddha tahoe is the dankest of the dank, my #1 strain (ATF, Sensi Star, Dj Blueberry, Strawberry Cough, Chem 91 to name some of its competition) and that bastard was a single fem'd seed, freebie from my first attitude order, and the only plant from that seed popping session still around.

"momma always said popping seeds is like a box a chocolates"

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agreed I always run seed in every grow and scatter a few cuts in there but do not think that is an option for someone trying to feed themselves off the grow.

the cuts i throw in are backup incase I do not find something interesting. I get bored easily with strains well smoking the same strain I should say but if a seed run produces something I like I definitely keep it and feel it is even more special then many of the verified clone onlys if only because like you said if I found it nobody can source it from anywhere but me and if it's great for me I don't care if the cool kids think so too.

I know the whole post came off oddly passive aggressive but I guess on the whole clone only subject that's how I feel, like a seesaw

racerboy71 said:

nice stow, i finally got me some gg4, well, about a month'ish ago now.. what is the funk like on the glue?? after the last grow of 4sd, i'm looking for something that won't stink me out of house and home the way the chem did, holy hell, not ready for that again any time soon.

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My lady was stinky as hell, and very sticky. You will need a good filter for sure if you are indoors!!

Got a very minty smooth taste when vaped. Yummmmmmmmm

Anyone in Michigan that has it pm me. I would love to try this. Support a Buddy.

Im in eastern Washington, got 1 buddy who has it guess he got it from the maker down in LA at the 2014 cannabis cup. jus hasn't gave me a cut yet.. hes waiting for it to "mom out" before cuting some of er.. So Im playing the waiting game..

Do the glue!

I'm not one to jump on the hype train but gg4 fell in my lap just like GSC... I wasn't impressed by GSC, but gg4 IMHO is hyped for a good reason, danktown.

kgp said:

Do the glue!
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The glue one of your tops? My little brother told me not to get the gg4 because they are finding it to be really leafy, but I on the other hand like to work with all kinds of ladies even the ones that are difficult hahahaha.

Looks dank brother!!! If you say it is a keeper it is a keeper!

urban1026835 said:

I agree somewhat grojak and trust me im all for the home grower having unique cuts but as one myself I cannot possibly go through the numbers that some of these guys have and do in finding these cuts..not speaking on all because I am sure a good percentage are hermie mistakes from some hack with a closet(like myself) but they happen to excel at promotion.

just that if a cut you source has been around 10 years(just a number) and it's still desired by many, there has to be something to it.

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Aren't a lot of these clone elites random bag seed from killer buds? Chem D, GSC, GG#4 etc. I know there are stable gems but those 1 in a 10000 plants diamonds can't be planned for. So, the "pros" aren't always popping, they're marketing. That's the key difference.

Say, Some lonely Joe grows a ton of seeds in his basement in middle America and finds a gem. No one would know but his small little circle of friends.

But let's say that someone that is a mover and a shaker pops one bag seed and finds a gem in a legal state with clubs, now there is an outlet and a market, so the clone gets a silly name and is hyped up and Mr. mover and shaker becomes much more wealthy than he was before his genius breeding technic of popping a hermied bag seed.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Aren't a lot of these clone elites random bag seed from killer buds? Chem D, GSC, GG#4 etc. I know there are stable gems but those 1 in a 10000 plants diamonds can't be planned for. So, the "pros" aren't always popping, they're marketing. That's the key difference.

Say, Some lonely Joe grows a ton of seeds in his basement in middle America and finds a gem. No one would know but his small little circle of friends.

But let's say that someone that is a mover and a shaker pops one bag seed and finds a gem in a legal state with clubs, now there is an outlet and a market, so the clone gets a silly name and is hyped up and Mr. mover and shaker becomes much more wealthy than he was before his genius breeding technic of popping a hermied bag seed.

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You overestimate the value of cuts, most people that get good cuts give them out for free or trade for other cuts, gorilla glue #4 is a good example of this.

King Arthur said:

The glue one of your tops? My little brother told me not to get the gg4 because they are finding it to be really leafy, but I on the other hand like to work with all kinds of ladies even the ones that are difficult hahahaha.

Looks dank brother!!! If you say it is a keeper it is a keeper!

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In no way would I describe it as leafy. It's easy to grow, has decent yields, and tons of vigor.

Though it's not the best in my garden, it's the most well rounded plant when you consider everything you look for when judging a strain.

Taste, smell, potency, bag appeal, high, vigor, cloning.. Not top of the charts on anything, but a good runner up in all categories. Definitely not a leafy strain.

@Yodaweed People make a lot of money from those clone only cuts, maybe not the original grower but like I said some mover and shaker that gets that shit rolling. Look at all the seeds being made from clone only strains, almost all breeder's have resorted to using clone only strains.

Few actually work their lines, and sending beans out to "testers", isn't really testing/running your own gear. Are some of the testers out there up to par and take pride in the work, yeah, but a lot of the testers I've seen here and many other forums are less than experienced and their efforts are most unfortunate for all parties involved.

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@Yodaweed People make a lot of money from those clone only cuts, maybe not the original grower but like I said some mover and shaker that gets that shit rolling. Look at all the seeds being made from clone only strains, almost all breeder's have resorted to using clone only strains.

Few actually work their lines, and sending beans out to "testers", isn't really testing/running your own gear. Are some of the testers out there up to par and take pride in the work, yeah, but a lot of the testers I've seen here and many other forums are less than experienced and their efforts are most unfortunate for all parties involved.

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I agree with you, sending out testers isn't testing your own gear. I also think that sending testers out is almost a step down because like you said you have all ranges of growers and even though someone can produce one nice solid plant they may not be able to get the potential out of the tester plant. Sharing bad experiences whether it be a newbie or prof sheds bad light on the company.

But if I had my own company I would probably send out some test beans too... who knows. Maybe it is better to make em pay for it?

King Arthur said:

I agree with you, sending out testers isn't testing your own gear. I also think that sending testers out is almost a step down because like you said you have all ranges of growers and even though someone can produce one nice solid plant they may not be able to get the potential out of the tester plant. Sharing bad experiences whether it be a newbie or prof sheds bad light on the company.

But if I had my own company I would probably send out some test beans too... who knows. Maybe it is better to make em pay for it?

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I get the concept of sending out testers, you can see a larger selection in a shorter amount of time, but then you have to rely on someone else.

And the old saying isn't: "If you want something done right, have other people do it!"

Edit:If I were a breeder I would send out testers for free but not as testers, I would just ask if people want to run my new shit with me so we could find out what's good. If they wanted to chime back in that's fine, but I would not require or even ask for them to journal it. If it is good, they'll let you know, if it's bad they'll really let you know!