Looking for an all purpose liquid Fert to replace Dr Earth

Revilgaz

Revilgaz

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I've been using 1/4 cup of Dr Earth Premium Gold 4-4-4 Liquid Fertilizer every other week during watering. But it seems this product is no longer available. Anyone have any suggestions for a new comparable product that I could keep using at the same ratio (because change is too much work!)

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dbkick

dbkick

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Take a look at dynagro foliage pro . There's also another dynagro product called all pro that comes in at 7-7-7 , foliage pro is like 9-3-6 and includes all micros. It's truly standalone .
 
Revilgaz

Revilgaz

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dbkick said:
Take a look at dynagro foliage pro . There's also another dynagro product called all pro that comes in at 7-7-7 , foliage pro is like 9-3-6 and includes all micros. It's truly standalone .
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That may work, because I'm currently adding a Seaweed fert for the micro. Thanks.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Revilgaz said:
That may work, because I'm currently adding a Seaweed fert for the micro. Thanks.
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I tend to taper off the foliage pro during bloom and picked up 10 pounds of mono pottasium phosphate and add 13essentials as a foliar for micros
 
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ManBat

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Revilgaz said:
Protekt is the only one I wasn't going to pick up... Have the Grow, Bloom, and Mag in my cart.
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that's good for strengthening cell walls and drought resilience... u also don't need very much of it...

also i like foliage over the grow ... you don't need both, just one of the two.
 
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goldberg71b

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I've got most of them. There's also a grow 7-9-5 and bloom 3-12-6 I've also got mag pro protekt and foliage pro.
 
Revilgaz

Revilgaz

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ManBat said:
that's good for strengthening cell walls and drought resilience... u also don't need very much of it...

also i like foliage over the grow ... you don't need both, just one of the two.
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Foliage is actually the one I have in the cart. Was just trying to save money by not getting ProTekt.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Revilgaz said:
Protekt is the only one I wasn't going to pick up... Have the Foliage, Bloom, and Mag in my cart.
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I'd pick up the protekt , drop the bloom and mag pro and just order some monopotassium phosphate for like a buck a pound myself. nice thick strong stalks support nice thick colas.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Revilgaz said:
Protekt is the only one I wasn't going to pick up... Have the Foliage, Bloom, and Mag in my cart.
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NO BLOOM!

Foliage pro start to finish - No bloom change....The P is too high and will cook your plants.

Jacks citrus - 20-10-20 1/4 tsp per gallon......everything is in it.

dbkick said:
I'd pick up the protekt , drop the bloom and mag pro and just order some monopotassium phosphate for like a buck a pound myself. nice thick strong stalks support nice thick colas.
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Potassium Sulfate is better! Same deal - 1/4 tsp per.
 
Revilgaz

Revilgaz

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Dr. Who said:
NO BLOOM!

Foliage pro start to finish - No bloom change....The P is too high and will cook your plants.

Jacks citrus - 20-10-20 1/4 tsp per gallon......everything is in it.



Potassium Sulfate is better! Same deal - 1/4 tsp per.
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So just to clarify. Foliage pro throughout grow. Then add Jacks Citrus during bloom? Potassium sulfate during Veg or bloom?
 
Flowki

Flowki

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Dr. Who said:
NO BLOOM!

Foliage pro start to finish - No bloom change....The P is too high and will cook your plants.

Jacks citrus - 20-10-20 1/4 tsp per gallon......everything is in it.



Potassium Sulfate is better! Same deal - 1/4 tsp per.
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Is foliage really all that?. The cal/mag levels look really low compared to what I've read mj likes during most stages. The P level what does that work out too in PPM?. I read over 70/80 ppm P will force myko to go dormant (or kill them off?).

Obviously it works or you would not suggest it, just wondering if you think it's that good.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Flowki said:
Is foliage really all that?. The cal/mag levels look really low compared to what I've read mj likes during most stages. The P level what does that work out too in PPM?. I read over 70/80 ppm P will force myko to go dormant (or kill them off?).

Obviously it works or you would not suggest it, just wondering if you think it's that good.
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I always have to add extra cal-mag with foliage pro, but it probably depends on your medium and water supply. I've got some sativa doms in half gallon pots that I've been spraying with epsom salts for a couple of weeks & they finally got enough mag.
Medium is Gritty Kitty. (2 parts promix HP, 1 part calcined clay, 1 part coco coir).
Tap water = 24 ppm, ph 7.25

This has become so common, I'm thinking about adding some epsom to the mix or pre-charging the coco & clay.

If you want to understand the relationship between soluble phosphorous & soil microbes, this video is informative:
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Flowki said:
Is foliage really all that?. The cal/mag levels look really low compared to what I've read mj likes during most stages. The P level what does that work out too in PPM?. I read over 70/80 ppm P will force myko to go dormant (or kill them off?).

Obviously it works or you would not suggest it, just wondering if you think it's that good.
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I don't use it now.
I have run it, to see how it works. It does fine, in soil that is balanced. I suggest it for newer growers because it's easy and one part.

I run my own soils - organic....

If your running soiless/tupor mix's. I would add a bit of Ca/Mg.

Never ran it in any hydro and personally wouldn't suggest it for that.

There is quite the following for Good old Jack's classic. I would suggest the Citrus for the added Sulfur.

To add color to Chunky Stools post.

I don't add anything to my RO - I build the soils to cover the lack of buffering content of the RO.

In anything other then my own soils. I would always add a Cal Carb based Ca/Mg to my RO.....My opinion.
 
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