Lollipopping

Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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HookedOnChronic said:
hey UB what do u think about my statement, just curious seeing as u seem pretty smart about this topic
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You're dealing with theories. I see alot of that around here. Go back, read my ditty on page 2 or 3, somewhere, about the function of leaves, take a look at blueboy's plants, etc. Take a look at mine.

Experiment, that's what I do. Butcher some, leave some alone and then decide.

UB
 
stoner1984

stoner1984

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The only person who seems to give proof of any claim is UB, where are the pics of these fields of lollipopped plants with 1oz colas?

Seems to be few people who have actual experiance on this site and many who think they know what they are talking about but actually know as fact the grand sum of fuck all, the end result of this?? you spend hours sifting through bull shit to get to the point, if your plant has no use for a part it will either fall of or it wont get grow in the first place so no point in cutting it off, it doesnt re-direct energy it removes energy.

When i first came to this site i thought people like UB, Brick Top and others were the usual group of forum old boys, know it alls, but i've been reading (and growing) more, its the likes of this lot that actually give you advice that works and i thank them for that. I'd sooner my plants start to look like something UB is growin than the pics of the butchered plant a few pages back.
 
daleh717

daleh717

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stoner1984 said:
The only person who seems to give proof of any claim is UB, where are the pics of these fields of lollipopped plants with 1oz colas?

Seems to be few people who have actual experiance on this site and many who think they know what they are talking about but actually know as fact the grand sum of fuck all, the end result of this?? you spend hours sifting through bull shit to get to the point, if your plant has no use for a part it will either fall of or it wont get grow in the first place so no point in cutting it off, it doesnt re-direct energy it removes energy.

When i first came to this site i thought people like UB, Brick Top and others were the usual group of forum old boys, know it alls, but i've been reading (and growing) more, its the likes of this lot that actually give you advice that works and i thank them for that. I'd sooner my plants start to look like something UB is growin than the pics of the butchered plant a few pages back.
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you got that right,UB has my vote on this one,i like UBs double harvest technique and have used it ,its common sense really ,pick em as there ripe just like you would with grapes etc pick off the top and let the bottom bulk up.
 
fatman7574

fatman7574

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del66666 said:
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and a merry xmas to you u bend and all your sheep......................
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dude, I think you have it backwards. It is the sheep who would follow the likes of you. Sheep are people who just do as they are told and never know why. Or there are the rams who are no better but insist they are leaders, really they just leave a false trail no more. So like you they are just sheep leading sheep.

If you would take the time to notice senior growers with many years of experience nearly always explain why some things should be done or should not not be done and why. They have garnered wisdom and in doing so they have found it is learning and teaching that is important, not the leading of sheep as is done by your type based on a need for outside affirmation to support a huge ego.

Children like you (regrdless og age) who think they know it all simply just repeat things they read or mimic things done by others but never learn why. When they do pick something up alledgedly expaining why or why not it is usually just ludicrous things garnished from comoic book grade growing books or some old myth heard in growing forums that only applied to soil growing methods of decades ago. Have you ever tried using Google scholar. I thought not.

That is why sheep leaders have so little worth in growing forums. You just regurgitate worthless info and in doing so leave a trail of sheep poop to follow. Or lead a pack of sheep by leaving a trail of sheep poop as a guide. Same difference. Your kind do not teach or share wisdom, just play follow the leader or regurgitate what you hear from someone else and expect credit/acknowledgement for regurgitationg things you know little or nothing about and therefore try to be a sheep leader.

Uncle Bens followers are not sheep they are learners. You ought to try it some time. Learning, I don't think you have the ability to lead anything but sheep.

Nothing personal, just my opinion after having read a lot of posts, obtaining a broad education in the sciences and grwing pot for over 35 years.

Merry Christmas.
 
del66666

del66666

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fatman7574 said:
dude, I think you have it backwards. It is the sheep who would follow the likes of you. Sheep are people who just do as they are told and never know why. Or there are the rams who are no better but insist they are leaders, really they just leave a false trail no more. So like you they are just sheep leading sheep.
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i didnt tell anyone to do anything so i have no idea what you are on about . so do you want some mint sauce ?
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fatman7574

fatman7574

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Ugh, I hate mint sauce and cranberry sauce. I go for the dressing, gravy and pumpkin pie. All that blurb was in response to the sheep bit and carry over from the many of late replies about old men and senoir citizens. My father is 81 and he still runs marathons. He does not allow me to feel old. 60 is the new middle age. I think adulthood starts for most dope smokers at about 60. Hard to mature emotionally when your always to stoned to even feel the need to deal with anything. Can't deal with reality when your not emotionally living in reality.
 
del66666

del66666

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ah now you have gone and made me go all sheepish, wouldnt know about dope smoking because i never got around to trying it.... 81 ha 2 years younger than me....
 
fatman7574

fatman7574

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Have you ever really sat on a 50 pound sack of seeds. It was a very emotional thing for me. 1972 in South East Asia. I want to do it again but with seeds now worth $5 to $10 each.
 
terrorizer805

terrorizer805

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fatman7574 said:
Ugh, I hate mint sauce and cranberry sauce. I go for the dressing, gravy and pumpkin pie. All that blurb was in response to the sheep bit and carry over from the many of late replies about old men and senoir citizens. My father is 81 and he still runs marathons. He does not allow me to feel old. 60 is the new middle age. I think adulthood starts for most dope smokers at about 60. Hard to mature emotionally when your always to stoned to even feel the need to deal with anything. Can't deal with reality when your not emotionally living in reality.
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Your father is 81 years old and still running marathons?

Your dad is a damn champion!
 
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sherriberry

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fatman7574 said:
Have you ever really sat on a 50 pound sack of seeds. It was a very emotional thing for me. 1972 in South East Asia. I want to do it again but with seeds now worth $5 to $10 each.
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how many plants would it take to come up with a 50 lb bag of seeds?

how would you go about selling off seeds if you did have some.

Is it legal to sell them to other users on a forum like this?
 
fatman7574

fatman7574

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If I remember right, in the 6o's and 70's when almost all pot sold was Mexiacn pot. it was sold in what was referred to as a four fingered bag. Meaning the zip lock bach was filled as hib gh as the height of four fingers wiyh your hand open and held side ways. The bag was about 80 seeds by weight. We wouldroll the pot as id f crubling dry spice to break it free from the seed. Seemed like thousands of seeds. We would throw the seeds every where, Church, school. police and city hall flower beds. Definitely there was no market for seeds. Then the U.S DEA decided to spray a herbid cide i on the mexican pot fields. So started the cultivation of pot as a cash crop for consumption, raether than a farm crop for making rope. The rest of the world pretty much initially foolow suit in order to make money of the stupid maericans. Slowly mre and more of the free world fell into the clutches of the evel drug maraijuana. Oh, uh where were we. Marijuana seeds in many countries are still just considered a farm product is is still found in may bird seed blends. Mnay countries simply excute drug dealers and addicts as moral degenerates. A few countries consider pot consumption and sells to individuals leagl. Some like Canada just chose the pretend it is not an issue. Some countries like the U.S. even extradite pot seed selling criminals and imprison them. I have never sold seeds online, but I am quite sure it could be done from a country of than the united states with out much problm.
These pot growing forums were established to have a place to advertise the selling of seeds, not as a favor to pot growers. Same way as AN and other mnfacturers produce and sell merchandice to us to make lots of money. Our welfare and freedom to grow and their support of Norml and all is just marketing *rap. You do notice the one talking that crap the most is the one producing the most worthless products and the one charging the most. They are also the ones standing in their adds in front of their parking lot of Hummer's Mercededs amnd BMW's and offering a millon dollars to anyone proving someone else sells a better product. If they were really supportive of the right to grow etc. they would simply cut their price by 75%. I would definitely NOT offer seeds for sell in this foum or any other. Seed growers sell from other countries and have legal people in their employment. They ell through frnts, not out of their homes. You will likely not find a single seed or drug of any kind in their homes, and you will not find their home address on any packages as a retun address. It is U.S. federal crime to use the U.S. post office to transport pot seeds.
 
herbygrower

herbygrower

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hey a bit of a noob with a question i got 40 seedlings growing in my veg room now , my plan was to grow them out till there about 2 feet each (or about a month an a half more in veg) then start flowering, clearling roughly about a quarter of the plant at the bottom,and one more time a third of the way into flowering .....basically i want kinda short plants with big buds. any feed back on this plan would be great appreciated
 
fatman7574

fatman7574

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herbygrower said:
hey a bit of a noob with a question i got 40 seedlings growing in my veg room now , my plan was to grow them out till there about 2 feet each (or about a month an a half more in veg) then start flowering, clearling roughly about a quarter of the plant at the bottom,and one more time a third of the way into flowering .....basically i want kinda short plants with big buds. any feed back on this plan would be great appreciated
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The only real disadvantage to just letting the plants grow undisturbed is the increase of a chance of n mold getting a foot old in lower leaves and branches as they remain behind after dying. the say way to deal with thai is use a dehumidifier and other wise ingore what you can not easily reach in and remove after it dies. That and use some air circulation to limit chances of mold or mildew. Plants dknow waht they are doing much better than we do. They evolved into a planrt that many say grows like a weed. We seldom other than gauarnteeing their needs are nmte help them through trimming, pruning, bending or pinching. If you start out with enough plants for a tight canopy during budding then there is nothing to be gained by stressing the plany or others wise trying to physically manipulating it.

If on the other hand you are limited by law (and care) to just a limited number of plants then some pinching and bending can give you larger yields from fewer plants but it also lengthens the turn around time between cycles. However maost staes with constrictive laws count all palnts alike as equals the slow seedling and veg times of new plants from seeds is beat out by manipulates plants for yield in the long run.

If you are not limited by number or do not worry about leag restraints then there is no long term gain by pinching and bending, lollipopping etc as they stress plants and slow growth etc. As far as diseas it is easier and more productive to just deal with other measures rather than pruing looipoppong etc if those are your excuses/reasons for plant butchery.
 
terrorizer805

terrorizer805

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herbygrower said:
hey a bit of a noob with a question i got 40 seedlings growing in my veg room now , my plan was to grow them out till there about 2 feet each (or about a month an a half more in veg) then start flowering, clearling roughly about a quarter of the plant at the bottom,and one more time a third of the way into flowering .....basically i want kinda short plants with big buds. any feed back on this plan would be great appreciated
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Don't butcher em'
Let them grow on their own the way nature intended them to. Only thing you should be doing is providing food, Light, and water.
 
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bigwheel

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Oh no..this means I will have to quit cloning as it would be sacrificing some branches and engaging in plant butchery. What ever yall are smoking I will take two bags sight unseen:)
 
terrorizer805

terrorizer805

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bigwheel said:
Oh no..this means I will have to quit cloning as it would be sacrificing some branches and engaging in plant butchery. What ever yall are smoking I will take two bags sight unseen:)
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Those are mother plants you speak of and are specifically grown for cloning my friend, do you not understand the difference?
 
fatman7574

fatman7574

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Maybe he isn't smart enough to grow mother plants for cloning or reserve or just likes having to start back at zero if there is a major problem and a full bud cycle is wiped out Maybe he doesn't even grow pot. I know maybe he is trying to be CUTE.
 
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