little help with mushrooms???

I was just wondering.... if I ordered one "grow bag" and one syringe of spores.... is that really all I need to do some growing??? I'm guessing it's not as easy as the websights I've been exploring make it sound... is one syringe enough for more than one bag??? totally new to this and only have about an hour of research under my belt so I'm sorry if my question is stupid...just seems like a fun side-project

donniemcm said:

I was just wondering.... if I ordered one "grow bag" and one syringe of spores.... is that really all I need to do some growing??? I'm guessing it's not as easy as the websights I've been exploring make it sound... is one syringe enough for more than one bag??? totally new to this and only have about an hour of research under my belt so I'm sorry if my question is stupid...just seems like a fun side-project

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One syringe will be enough for one jar/bag (whatever your using to contain your substrate).

Ive never grown boomers, been VERY interested and done a bit of research.... everything needs to be 100% sterile or you WILL get an infection which will ruin every bit of mycelium you have which is basically the plant of the mushroom. The mushroom itself is just the fruit.

Once you have mycelium, you can inoculate an infinite amount of substrates. One tiny pinch on top of your sterile substrate is all it takes ive read from several sources.

You are correct, its not as easy as the websites make it. Its not has hard as cannabis growing... No where near as forgiving as cannabis... but still easier if that makes sense.

For substrates you can use anything from rice cakes to wheat, to ground up straw ive heard. You have to sterilize your container and substrate with a pressure cooker (dont have to but its most commonly used). Thats about the extent of my boomer growing knowledge... I wouldnt waste money on a "grow bag" when you can use mason jars form your cabinet for free... You should get several flushes if youve done it all correctly.

What strain are you thinking of picking? Cambodian Cubensis are my favorite, Penis Envy is WAY heady too... half an 8th of the PE felt like eating a full 8th of cambodians

well, to answer your last question first I was going to go with something that is considered "easy" to grow for my first venture... I believe the Cambodian fell into that category so that would def be an option. Your answer is very informative and I thank you for that!!! However it has brought up some new questions... by "several flushes" I'm assuming you mean I can get get a few rounds of mushrooms... could you explain how this is done??? I'm also intrigued by adding a pinch of mycelium to an infinite amount of substrates.... are you saying once I have a live culture I can just keep adding it to a new sterile substrate and keep things going??? Is it hard to keep the original "mother" culture alive??? so many questions.... forgive me... but this is getting more interesting by the second!!! +rep for taking the time to answer my friend... ty!

I agree with most of what Badmojo420 said. I find shrooming extremely easy apart from the sterility. You basically leave it in a dark place for incubation and forget about it! Then you just need to transfer it and let it fruit (at this stage the risks of contamination are much much lower). This grow bag is your syringe and your substrate IMO. If so, you will need: mason jars, everything involving sterility like rubbing alcohol, gloves etc., an incubator and a terrarium (optional: Perlite). READ THE PF TEK!!!! You will find all the information you need. Good luck!

donniemcm said:

well, to answer your last question first I was going to go with something that is considered "easy" to grow for my first venture... I believe the Cambodian fell into that category so that would def be an option. Your answer is very informative and I thank you for that!!! However it has brought up some new questions... by "several flushes" I'm assuming you mean I can get get a few rounds of mushrooms... could you explain how this is done??? I'm also intrigued by adding a pinch of mycelium to an infinite amount of substrates.... are you saying once I have a live culture I can just keep adding it to a new sterile substrate and keep things going??? Is it hard to keep the original "mother" culture alive??? so many questions.... forgive me... but this is getting more interesting by the second!!! +rep for taking the time to answer my friend... ty!

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Like I said, never personally grown my own boomers but from my understanding after your harvest your first flush you put the entire jar back into dark spot to let the mycelium regenerate itself to fruit again. This is done automatically as far as I know (could be wrong, correct me if i am please) and then you place it back into your fruiting chamber. You may not even need to move you jars anywhere... im not 100% sure if they need light to fruit but I think they do but too much will kill them. This is why you always see mushrooms popping up early in the morning. Maybe they come up in the middle of the night, not sure lol.

Im not sure how hard it is to keep the mother mycelium alive and healthy, but yes, you could essentially inoculate 50 pounds of substrate with a pinch of mycelium if you wanted to. I would imagine it would take a LONG time for the mycelium to be ready to fruit. It takes a couple weeks for a 1 pint jar to be ready I think (+\- for different genetics).


Keep in mind i have never grown boomers or ANY type of mushroom. Please take this advice with a grain of salt and cross reference it for validity as I am just passing along what I still retained from what Ive researched. Peace!

if you enjoy growing smoke, you will enjoy growing mushrooms. if you lack patience in your MJ grow room. IE: harvesting plants early, not taking the time to cure properly, not monitoring PH levels or nute levels daily, not taking notes. all things i used to be lazy about. if this sounds like you... 1 of 2 things will happen. 1. it will be a flop and you wont see a shroom and give up. or 2. after a successful mushroom grow or 2 you will develop the patience needed to take your MJ grow to new levels.

go read. below are a few spots to start. take notes. i suggest you start out with BRF cakes and the PF-tek. dont go bulk first. dont go out and buy humidifiers and tents and all that bullshit. if you cant pull off BRF cakes in a $5 tote from wal fart your not going to grow bulk. you can get started with $30.

dont buy a bunch of syringes of spores. 1 syringe of spores can produce a endless amount of spores. i have spores in a simple Karo liquid culture that is months old and still good. it started with 1cc of spores from a 10cc syringe. 1 syringe can make 10 liquid cultures. one LC can make 20 syringes. get the idea.

you will need a pressure cooker. if you dont have one.... beg, borrow or steal one. if you buy one, buy a big one. if you buy small pressure cooker and become successful, your going to wish you had went bigger.

the best advice i can give you is that your not going to come up with anything new when it comes to growing mushrooms. its all been tried before. people been growing shrooms forever. the PF tek has been around for 50 years in print. study BRF cakes and the PF tek. follow to the T and you will be successful. master the PF tek and you will know the basic of growing. dont get side tracked by all the bells and whistles you see added to the PF tek. apply what you will learn from the PF tek and bulk growing will blow your f-in mind.

as for the 100% sterile crap you will read, take it with a grain of salt. i used believe in all that shit until i got in a hurry one day an threw some jars together and nothing went bad the whole grow. beside mushroom in the wild dont grow in sterile conditions. hell bulk growers use horse shit as a substrate.

one last thing, you might want to look up the laws in your area for growing shrooms. my state dont play when it come to shrooms. its a felony just to think about shrooms here.


https://mycotopia.net/

www.shroomtalk.com/

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/2

well.... I took the plunge, so to speak... ordered a syringe of mazatapec.... and a "mad bag" from mad season...apparently the two are reported to work well together... small investment so if nothing else it's a cheap experiment...lol!! After doing some reading I do have a question though... once the culture has developed, they say to put the bag in indirect light on a 12/12 sched... I just happen to have one of those running at the moment....lol!!! would it be ok to put the bag in the corner of my flowering tent??? or would the light be too intesnse??

after you noc up the bag put it in a dark room or even on your fridge-top....you want temps around 80 but no higher than 83.....I'm usually around 75-80...when the bag is ready to fruit you open the bag and place it in the fruiting chamber of your choice...temps around 65-70 and ambient light....then its mist and fan...misting then fanning evaporates the subs surface which is a major pinning trigger...when yer boomers break veil its harvest time...after harvest you dunk the sub for 18-24 hours in cool water...drain excess water and return to fruiting chamber for 2nd flush...repeat for up to 4 flushes...hth

this particular bag claims you can fruit IN the bag.... should I not do that??? and assuming you're answer is no, what do you recommend for a fruiting chamber??? It says a 12/12 light schedule.... is that a must???

just open the top of the bag and place it in the proper conditions...the bag itself should help with humidity retention....but I've never gone the bag route...I started with BRF and spawned that to h-poo and verm...bags just seem to not interest me...I like doin' stuff from scratch...the 12/12 lighting is just a reccommendation...I use a martha parked beside a window....the indirect sunlight works good and its cheap...like me...lol...hth

I'm in the process of my first shroom grow. It really isn't that difficult. Go to youtube and search for the videos Let's Grow Mushrooms. They are great and give you a step by step PF Tek procedure. They show you how to do everything. It is also a great guide for proper sterilization, don't skimp on that aspect! I did spend some money to get it started, but not much at all, I could have spent less but I bought enough to do several grows. In the long run it's a waiting game, but if you can take 10 minutes to sterilize a room/counter/Tupperware... It is easy.

As far as bags are concerned, I read some good and some bad... just keep it sterile you should be fine. The 12/12 thing is interesting though... hhmmm.... makes me wish I had room in my cabinet with my flowers right now, haha.

Let's grow mushrooms! And then extract some DMT.

DaSprout said:

Let's grow mushrooms! And then extract some DMT.

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that would be a waste of mushrooms, theres other plants out there that produce far more DMT than any type of mushroom could.

you should loo into grain. i use popcorn and like it alot better than brf cakes. you can use 1cc per jar so you would get about 10 jars. then you can spawn those to coir/verm mix with some extra nutrients if wanted. and let those colonize and you get big cakes or big pans r whatever you make them in. you dont need to much stuff. a PC, some jars, a pan or tuperware, and spores and popcorn. not to much is involved.

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that would be a waste of mushrooms, theres other plants out there that produce far more DMT than any type of mushroom could.

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Sorry. I should have specified that the extraction of DMT would be the next logical step, or planned experiment after growing and consuming your own shrooms. Ex: smoking marijuana -> taking LSD -> ingesting magic mushrooms -> extracting and using DMT. I apologize for any misunderstandings. But that is the rationale behind the forementioned comment.

Thank you.

Kiss my motherfucking ass. I'm out.
Da Sprout.

you can try shroomery.org they would be able to help alot with your venture. good luck happy growing