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mudballs

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qwizoking said:
This isn't my thread and I'm not gona come here spouting my thoughts..
But increasing temp at canopy obviously speeds transpiration and a little extra vac to suck shit out the roots, as long as their feet stay cool, all is dandy, this prevents evaporation in the rootbed and allows concentrations\ec and what not to be lower. also effectively reducing the side effects of root bound plants. What yiur suggesting with ammonia or whatever really isn't a good idea. And frankly increasing those "openings" is unnecessary. Though inducing a sort of sar response would be interesting
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what's an 'sar response'?
it was just a scientific study that mentioned ammonium as playing a role in increasing apoplasm rates. not like i was gonna pour ammonium in my pots ;p just shooting the breeze.
 
Uncle Ben

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Yeah, that Superjive label is always good for a laugh.

RM3 said:
http://thegardeningcook.com/baking-soda-in-the-garden/

didn't say I was gonna do it lol
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply it, just poking fun. Speaking of which.....

Hi! I am Carol and I love to garden and cook (with a bit of DIY thrown in for fun.) I come from a long line of gardeners and have always love to experiment with food and recipes. Join me as I cook and garden my way through life.

Looks like a plug for Arm and Hammer pure and simple.
 
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a senile fungus

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Why do my plants smell so much?

This year I grew with as little inputs as possible, straight into the ground.

They were watered weekly, but sometimes not. They soil was worked with various organic amendments prior to planting and then they were given water for the rest of the season.

I could smell them about 50ft away...

Why don't your plants smell? And mine do?

Curious?
 
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RM3 said:
The systemic acquired resistance (SAR) is a "whole-plant" resistance response that occurs following an earlier localized exposure to a pathogen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_acquired_resistance
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Keyplex is piggybacking on that with their products, same with DG with their ProTekt.

This is a product I use - http://www.keyplex.com/images/specimen-labels/KeyPlex-350DP.pdf
It contains alpha-keto acids, which may
facilitate utilization of micronutrients, and increase
resistance to environmental stress
 
Uncle Ben

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a senile fungus said:
Why don't your plants smell? And mine do?

Curious?
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When's the last time you gave dem puppies a bath?

Seriously though, I find sativas have little aroma compared to skunk. My zamal was almost odorless. I really had to put my nose to it to pick up on anything. Had a faint smell of cinnamon.

Also, ever heard of "terroir"? Given that zamal I would speculate that it would have a completely different sensory profile if grown outdoors in a sandy loam versus indoors in potting soil under artificial light.
 
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here's a good 'food for thought'
1)activation of SAR requires the accumulation of endogenous salicylic acid (SA)

2)Salicylic acid also uncouples oxidative phosphorylation, which leads to increased ADP:ATP and AMP:ATP ratios in the cell

yep if i read things right you can give your plants aspirin :) furthermore i think it would be best in flower. i see more relations to phosphates than anything else.
http://faculty.fmcc.suny.edu/mcdarby/majors101book/Chapter_04-Cell_Structure&Function/04-cells&energy.htm

i'm so bored!
 
RM3

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a senile fungus said:
Why do my plants smell so much?

This year I grew with as little inputs as possible, straight into the ground.

They were watered weekly, but sometimes not. They soil was worked with various organic amendments prior to planting and then they were given water for the rest of the season.

I could smell them about 50ft away...

Why don't your plants smell? And mine do?

Curious?
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I grow with ZERO stress, can't do that outside. I am very anal about the tweaked conditions in my garden to the point where I will turn on a humidifier if the RH drops 2 points, most growers wouldn't even take notice
 
RM3

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mudballs said:
here's a good 'food for thought'
1)activation of SAR requires the accumulation of endogenous salicylic acid (SA)

2)Salicylic acid also uncouples oxidative phosphorylation, which leads to increased ADP:ATP and AMP:ATP ratios in the cell

yep if i read things right you can give your plants aspirin :) furthermore i think it would be best in flower. i see more relations to phosphates than anything else.
http://faculty.fmcc.suny.edu/mcdarby/majors101book/Chapter_04-Cell_Structure&Function/04-cells&energy.htm

i'm so bored!
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I used aspirin in one of the teas I made :)
 
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RM3 said:
I used aspirin in one of the teas I made :)
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i think it would be based on the weight and/or size of the plant.how much aspirin did you use? apparently we need a 5x-10x excess and the good thing it seems self regulating. come on qwizo chime in
 
a senile fungus

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Salicylic acid us a natural ingredient in some plants that are used for organic teas, not to mention that I've seen aspirin utilized in other ways.
 
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mudballs said:
i think it would be based on the weight and/or size of the plant.how much aspirin did you use? apparently we need a 5x-10x excess and the good thing it seems self regulating. come on qwizo chime in
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3 aspirin to a 5 gallon bucket, the tea also had hops in it
 
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I would be concerned of Herm's but I've never tried it....I have used it to make fem seeds a couple times

I typically grow landrace Sativa's. But that's not all I grow, my last harvest was 60 plants. Blueberry x chemdawg, that crossed with master kush, cheese, and some cat piss haze thing.. Other rotation was a ton of alien crosses. Aliens on crack, alien nightmare, alien x train wreck, alien x deep purple..
I'm talking massive amounts of dank in my bedroom... No smell at all unless I touch them or otherwise rupture a trichrome head..
 
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a senile fungus said:
Salicylic acid us a natural ingredient in some plants that are used for organic teas, not to mention that I've seen aspirin utilized in other ways.
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yep and now we're circling around how much would be needed to see a notably beneficial difference. for a really large plant i would think we'd need a larger solution. 3 pills in a gallon is a really small %. care to try a monster dose? maybe a foliar spray?
nb:from what i read it just turns excess atp into the precursors awaiting use.
 
RM3

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mudballs said:
yep and now we're circling around how much would be needed to see a notably beneficial difference. for a really large plant i would think we'd need a larger solution. 3 pills in a gallon is a really small %. care to try a monster dose? maybe a foliar spray?
nb:from what i read it just turns excess atp into the precursors awaiting use.
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Experiment with it and see what happens, best way to learn.

I have 5 different experiments goin at the moment so will be awhile before I play with it again
 
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