Light burn in early flowering !!!

VRZ711

VRZ711

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This is my first grow ever and my first post ever i wish for help, i have 8 plants 20 days old i have switched to the flowering cycle since 4 days when they where 16 days old (only 4 developed nodes) thus i had to change the set up and add more light and replace the 6500K CFLs with 2700K, now i have 36 watts X 8 CFLs, 4 of them 2700K and 4 6500, after that i had to go to visit my family over the weekend, so i left the plants for 1 day without monitoring after the new setup, when i got back home, all the plants got burned and started to have brown leaves, it was so hot inside, 90 C and above, i fixed the setup and added more fans and tried to keep the room with 85 max with 50% humidity min. DSC_0081.jpgDSC_0082.jpgDSC_0083.jpg

I have cut all the fully damaged leaves and trimmed the half damaged ones,
my question is should i revert back to VEG stage and wait for it to recover for 1 more week??? or continue with flowering, as my plan was 16 days to VEG and 40 days to flower, and the second question how can i make it heal faster. nutrients, soil, PH, and humidity.

Please help as this will be first time i will see some weed in 2 years.

Thank you all in advance.
 
Gmz

Gmz

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First off 8 plants... You should have 8 Pots :wink:, and 90c :shock:?! That's insane, you sure you don't mean Fahrenheit? Those are damn small for 16 days of veg, I think you have more wrong then that light burn.. Root bound, over watered? I would lose the water globe thing, and just water based on the weight of the pot.
 
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Notmeomg

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I agree with GMZ, in my opinion if this was at 16 days I'd scrap it and start over. It looks to me like these plants got too much attention , keep in mind less is more with these plants... I keep my room temps at 75 - 85 D/N and humidity I don't personally worry about. I water every other day and my plants only get 2 cups of water max, and they are almost 3ft at 3 weeks of veg which is next to nothing in water but my plants love it. Try not to sleep on every decision you make cause odds are its already fixed itself.

8 plants, 8 pots , 5 gal pots , 1 per pot. and I would suggest never to cut anything ... let it fall off and pluck it! The best way for it to heal is to relax and let it do its thing, check on it every morning for a hour or so and go on with your day.

Good luck my friend
 
VRZ711

VRZ711

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Thank you for the reply i just wanted to know first which are females so i can keep, that's why i have only 4 pots, and i don't over water, and they where 3 times bigger before i trimmed and removed the affected leaves, so whats the solution in your opinion ? please help
 
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Notmeomg

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VRZ711 said:
Thank you for the reply i just wanted to know first which are females so i can keep, that's why i have only 4 pots, and i don't over water, and they where 3 times bigger before i trimmed and removed the affected leaves, so whats the solution in your opinion ? please help
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The best solution would be patience
 
Gmz

Gmz

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VRZ711 said:
Thank you for the reply i just wanted to know first which are females so i can keep, that's why i have only 4 pots, and i don't over water, and they where 3 times bigger before i trimmed and removed the affected leaves, so whats the solution in your opinion ? please help
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Most likely way too young to tell, but you'll see a little pear shaped thing with hairs coming out of it at the base of the nodes, that's when you know you gotta female. The males will have balls with no hairs coming out.

DSCN1659.jpg This one is female :)


I'm not trying to be a dick, I would hate to start over 16 days into a grow, such a waste of time :(. But I would start over, 1 plant per pot maybe use solo cups from seed then transplant
 
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Notmeomg

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VRZ711 said:
so should i keep on the 12/12 cycle of light ? and foilar feed every other day when the lights go off ?
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lol I would take two steps back and stop trying to apply what you read. Experience and experimentation is the best way to learn to grow, I would not put those under 12/12 until atleast 2ft tall personally cause anything less is a waste of time, the plant tends to double in size by harvest ex. my plants veg to 2ft and are 4ft plants by harvest. There is no time frame on vegging or flowering , but there is a time frame on when the plant is ready, and only that plant will tell you that. I don't foilar feed simply because its cost effective and its not 100% necessary... It takes a good understabnding of plant mechanics to want to encourage me to foilar feed which I haven't learned yet fully myself.

TLDR: keep them vegging and remember LESS IS MORE ITS A WEED ! ; Foilar feeding is optional
 
AimAim

AimAim

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VRZ711 said:
my plan was 16 days to VEG and 40 days to flower, and the second question how can i make it heal faster. nutrients, soil, PH, and humidity..
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Pretty much nothing will mature in 40 days of flowering. Plan on 8-9 weeks minimum.

Honestly those plants look really bad. I doubt if you will get much of anything from them. I suspect you have some real junk soil. You could try repotting them in a better soil and maybe get them to start growing.

Overwatered? Kind of looks like it. Over fertilized or underfertilized? I can't tell which. In any case they are a mess, next time try to get a better quality planting soil.

Your lighting is not so much of an issue as poor soil and growing conditions.
 
VRZ711

VRZ711

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Notmeomg said:
, I would not put those under 12/12 until atleast 2ft tall personally cause anything less is a waste of time, the plant tends to double in size by harvest ex. my plants veg to 2ft and are 4ft plants by harvest. There is no time frame on vegging or flowering , but there is a time frame on when the plant is ready,
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But im limited in the grow space as the whole grow box is 80 CM removing the pot and the lights its 55 cm total so my plant shouldn't be more than 2 feet max,

thank you all for the help, i have changed the cycle back to 24 hour of light and i will wait another week or so till my plants recover, also i will plant each plant in one pot, and i wont water until the soil top 2 inches is dry, thank you all again, and i will update you
 
VRZ711

VRZ711

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its [h=1]Floragard Universal Potting Soil and i have added some sand on the top as i don't have perlite,[/h]
 
Gmz

Gmz

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VRZ711 said:
its Floragard Universal Potting Soil and i have added some sand on the top as i don't have perlite,
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I don't think sand helps the aeration of the soil, but rather retains more water :wink: could be completely wrong tho :lol:
 
grasscropper

grasscropper

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They do look overwatered for sure. I'd start by letting them get good and dry. I did the same with a couple of my plants a few months back... took a while and some patience but they came back in time. Maybe re-pot them in some soil that has better drainage and no nutrients at all ... just let them be.
 
VRZ711

VRZ711

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I have changed the setup, changed the soil i mixed 50% organic soil with 50% perlite, trying to keep the temperature 85F and the humidity around 50%, 24 hours of light, i water just based on the weight of the pot, even tho i did that 2 of my 8 plants died,2 are dying, so please tell me what im doing wrong and how can i fix it as im not willing to lose the last 4 plants.IMG_4194.jpgIMG_4195.jpgIMG_4196.jpgIMG_4197.jpgIMG_4198.jpgIMG_4197.jpgIMG_4200.jpgIMG_4198.jpgIMG_4201.jpg
 
VRZ711

VRZ711

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VRZ711 said:
This is my first grow ever and my first post ever i wish for help, i have 8 plants 20 days old i have switched to the flowering cycle since 4 days when they where 16 days old (only 4 developed nodes) thus i had to change the set up and add more light and replace the 6500K CFLs with 2700K, now i have 36 watts X 8 CFLs, 4 of them 2700K and 4 6500, after that i had to go to visit my family over the weekend, so i left the plants for 1 day without monitoring after the new setup, when i got back home, all the plants got burned and started to have brown leaves, it was so hot inside, 90 C and above, i fixed the setup and added more fans and tried to keep the room with 85 max with 50% humidity min. View attachment 2968424View attachment 2968426View attachment 2968429

I have cut all the fully damaged leaves and trimmed the half damaged ones,
my question is should i revert back to VEG stage and wait for it to recover for 1 more week??? or continue with flowering, as my plan was 16 days to VEG and 40 days to flower, and the second question how can i make it heal faster. nutrients, soil, PH, and humidity.

Please help as this will be first time i will see some weed in 2 years.

Thank you all in advance.
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This is the status before 5 days
 
Greensea

Greensea

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Im a noob, but i can see there is nothing u can do anymore i think... But maby im in wrong, and even if u can save them, you can not expect any good results.
I will start new grow, your last soil mix seems ok, just use bigger pots and maby just 2 seeds, but get 2 quality fem seeds so u wont be worried about sex.
 
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bondoman

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I'd probably shoot for 75 degrees, and as long as you watered them once during transplant leave them alone and quit loving them, they're resilient.
 
VRZ711

VRZ711

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thank you all for the replies, 2 other plants also just died today, i started 2 other seeds and i will flower them after 2 weeks along with the 4 remaining plants, as i don't have more time to wait,hope things will be okay please let me know if i can do anything else to help me fix them, i would massage the leaves if it takes them to grow better :-(
 
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