Light bleach? No pH or toxicity so..... thoughts?

allboutsoil

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In the second month of veg and getting light new growth and what looks like nute burn or something,so at first I flushed and use nothing but OR water and the problem persisted. So I'm guessing is light bleach but I am not sure.

Another thing it makes me think that is the one that had it first is not the healthiest and the rest are doing the same thing now. It looks like burn but isn't.
Just want to flip to flower but I don't want to risk Quality for you to to foliage plus as I am getting rid of the bad leaves.

Would you these leaves? Should they be plucked? There is a lot of evidence of both plucking and leaving at this point, they had been topped and been pruning entire life cycle so they are strong plants. A strong Og strain.
 

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allboutsoil

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Info on wat goes on

Coco
Ceramic metal halides
Some leds once in a while
R O water
PH 5.8-6.3
Plenty o cal and mag
Custom nute feeding
Not drain to waste
Water daily feed every 3rd or so when they need
Etc.....


Thoughts and questions please feel free it's a doozy!
 

chemphlegm

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"custom nute feeding"= your issues
I'd remove all unhealthy leaves, use a proven organic fertilizer, and flower when they heal.

its hardly ever light bleaching, but I do have some unruly sativas that climb into my light bulbs, they burn to crisp on the top
plants send hormones down to promote undergrowth in an effort to survive the attack from above, and make them seeds(buds for me)
 
Those are fucked! You read too much RUI and confused yourself.

IMO give them just water and switch to flower for now. Post in two weeks.
 

Jeffro420

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Why did you remove all the big fan leaves? Clean your room up a little. Your trays are filled with dead dry leaves and dirt. I'd say they are stressed from whatever method of defoliation you were using.
 

Antgotaclue

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Deffo stressed out what have u done to them why have you took so much of and ye Jeff is right tidy up a bit man. And give them a light water PEACE
 

bobtokes

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you are growing in coco, you have to give them nutes every feed, you also need to water until you get run off, atleast 30%, dont let the plant suck the run off out of the saucer your plant is in, mop the run off up that collects in the saucer with a sponge, dont let your coco completly dry out before you water, or you will get salt build up on the roots
 

Tupapa

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Info on wat goes on

Coco
Ceramic metal halides
Some leds once in a while
R O water
PH 5.8-6.3
Plenty o cal and mag
Custom nute feeding
Not drain to waste
Water daily feed every 3rd or so when they need
Etc.....


Thoughts and questions please feel free it's a doozy!
Is she starting to flower?
 

boilingoil

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They need a good flush with 6.0 ph water and a balanced 200 ppm nutrient mix and i mean a good flush with plenty of run-off. Do not use straight RO water ever in coir.
Plenty of good reads on the use of coir here. I myself, it's all i use indoors.
Do the flush first then come back and I'll tell you how to grow in coir.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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NOT drain to waste? then what do you do with it?
you don't have claw, so its not chronic overfeeding, but it looks like nute burn causing a lockout, maybe potassium. did you feed them heavy recently? give them something different?
 

allboutsoil

Member
Right on thank you all att I'm the top down

1 by custom feed i use a variety of proven names, AN. House an garden trIced golden tree and Clean grow has been the latest and has been great. The good looking plant. had the same issues however is driving now hopefully in time the rest will follow suit. They have been think in foliage low from the get so that's not a reaction to this problem

2. I BARELY read RUI so not from that either. Thanks tho....

3. I did not feed every water in the event it was burn at first, squally feed wet wter every day
4. I know I already have and enpjt new panda film down. So she's s-clean. Asa whistle. Thank. You. It was bad. I know. Been busy, snd new crop is amazing so stoked about that

5. I am gonn do that 6 flush. Just h2o right, no flushin sooution?? My mistake I just use a filter to remove Floride and chlorine so not really RO. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
6. Not string to flower kind looks like it tho. Might flip. Just afraid the lack o foliage will effect quality of buds
7. Not potassium lockout

Gave a diff brand of nutes, have b4 and ne'er ha this so didn't think be n issue..... maybe temps are o low at night?? Man. This is Tough, not turn not bleach not lock out not that sissy so what could it be this is a hell of an experiment.
 

allboutsoil

Member
Some say water more someone said water less I think the consensus is 60 water Cal mag and 6.0pH thoughts ?

Hey thanks for all your answers man really appreciate it peace out! Let you know in a bit if you have anymore ideas please shoot another post because I don't know what the hell this is and apparently nobody else does either no definite answer. Do I get rid of shitty leaves let's start there
 

allboutsoil

Member
They need a good flush with 6.0 ph water and a balanced 200 ppm nutrient mix and i mean a good flush with plenty of run-off. Do not use straight RO water ever in coir.
Plenty of good reads on the use of coir here. I myself, it's all i use indoors.
Do the flush first then come back and I'll tell you how to grow in coir.
Go to Coke of many a time so this is the first I know they need extra Cal mag and salt buildup could be a issue so use drip clean. any other advice you have that I may not know that would be rad!
 

MickFoster

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You have multiple problems caused by multiple mistakes - that's why nobody can give you an accurate answer. First, I would run 1/2 strength nutes, pH'd at 6.0 until the pH and ppm is the same coming out as what you put in. Never use just water in coco, always a nute solution, feed to 20% run off every day - coco has to stay wet - I feed one gallon of nute solution twice a day and my plants are in 2 gallon pots. And clean up - never leave dead plant matter in your grow area - you're asking for bug problems. I would not switch to flower until the plant is healthy again - if that's even possible at this point. Good luck.
 

allboutsoil

Member
Yea thanks man. I usually always feed just wanted to be sure wasn't new Bern so after I discovered that it was not I would be in the field again I don't go drain to waste never have I guess root rot worried me but if it's that important I will and what about fluctuating ph little bit to get nitrogen and potassium with the correct levels they have to be different pH levels and the rest of mobile and immobile nutes.

They're looking perfect but perfect then one day they should start having him it gets super cold at night something that might have some to do with it but there's no signs of mag def so I don't know and I did clean it had to get rid all that dead leaves I don't want bad leaves on them when I switch to flower because that would be bad for flower production.... but kinda think should flower. Took a good bit to get that one back to perfect. I hear what you're saying and as far as them getting better the one has totally gotten better is looks great so I don't see why the rest wont follow right? All same strain so I don't see why not? it's it's just really strange because it's unknown

Hey prescient the thought and knowledge if using any else please let me know running ceramics they're not too close to these 36 up but I had three 315's then down to two then to one and then one and some LEDs was thinking might go to an HPS 6 at this point with one 315 to keep nodes tight and leaf production up. I dunno man it's a tough one. But if you think anything else man please by all means.

Peace ✌
 
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