Liberty Was Also Attacked in Boston

aknight3

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April 29, 2013
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Forced lockdown of a city. Militarized police riding tanks in the streets. Door-to-door armed searches without warrant. Families thrown out of their homes at gunpoint to be searched without probable cause. Businesses forced to close. Transport shut down.

These were not the scenes from a military coup in a far off banana republic, but rather the scenes just over a week ago in Boston as the United States got a taste of martial law. The ostensible reason for the military-style takeover of parts of Boston was that the accused perpetrator of a horrific crime was on the loose. The Boston bombing provided the opportunity for the government to turn what should have been a police investigation into a military-style occupation of an American city. This unprecedented move should frighten us as much or more than the attack itself.

What has been sadly forgotten in all the celebration of the capture of one suspect and the killing of his older brother is that the police state tactics in Boston did absolutely nothing to catch them. While the media crowed that the apprehension of the suspects was a triumph of the new surveillance state – and, predictably, many talking heads and Members of Congress called for even more government cameras pointed at the rest of us – the fact is none of this caught the suspect. Actually, it very nearly gave the suspect a chance to make a getaway.

The “shelter in place” command imposed by the governor of Massachusetts was lifted before the suspect was caught. Only after this police state move was ended did the owner of the boat go outside to check on his property, and in so doing discover the suspect.

No, the suspect was not discovered by the paramilitary troops terrorizing the public. He was discovered by a private citizen, who then placed a call to the police. And he was identified not by government surveillance cameras, but by private citizens who willingly shared their photographs with the police.

As journalist Tim Carney wrote last week:

“Law enforcement in Boston used cameras to ID the bombing suspects, but not police cameras. Instead, authorities asked the public to submit all photos and videos of the finish-line area to the FBI, just in case any of them had relevant images. The surveillance videos the FBI posted online of the suspects came from private businesses that use surveillance to punish and deter crime on their property.”

Sadly, we have been conditioned to believe that the job of the government is to keep us safe, but in reality the job of the government is to protect our liberties. Once the government decides that its role is to keep us safe, whether economically or physically, they can only do so by taking away our liberties. That is what happened in Boston.

Three people were killed in Boston and that is tragic. But what of the fact that over 40 persons are killed in the United States each day, and sometimes ten persons can be killed in one city on any given weekend? These cities are not locked-down by paramilitary police riding in tanks and pointing automatic weapons at innocent citizens.

This is unprecedented and is very dangerous. We must educate ourselves and others about our precious civil liberties to ensure that we never accept demands that we give up our Constitution so that the government can pretend to protect us.
 
I do agree Boston was a disgusting show of force of the militarization of police.

I experienced that same show of force when I was visiting home in the Twin Cities on the week that workplace shooting happened back in September last year. I saw not only APCs and police dressed like soldiers with AR15s and sub-machine guns but I saw actual snipers on overpasses and atop of buildings on that side of town. Roads were blocked, traffic stopped, IDs demanded all after the actual event. Although I was not personally harassed and did not feel threatened directly it did feel like it was too much of a show of force especially after it was confirmed the shooter was dead.

I have also experienced police exercises in some of the mid-western and some western states. In MN, WI, ND, SD, and Iowa and in Idaho, I either witnessed, read about or actually experienced police exercises with the public being unwilling participants. In WI on vaca last spring traffic on a heavy highway going through Madison were forced to slow and stop as police came down off onramps in large numbers. We sat for a good 10 minutes not knowing wtf as autos began to pile up. Eventually they started moving and you could see police on overpasses and at the exits for a good mile or two. Thought there was a convict or something loose but local friend told me it was an exercise to practice containing traffic. This also happened to me in Idaho but I have heard of this happening a lot the last two years in many states.

We are headed in a very bad direction. In case anyone doesn't already know we have a national police force, it's called the DHS. If you see them coming, run. Arm yourself, educate yourself, and learn your rights and use them. We need to stop this push for a national police force, which is what's currently going on now with the militarization of police. DHS didn't buy up billions of rounds of ammo with our tax money for nothing.
 
Three people were killed in Boston and that is tragic. But what of the fact that over 40 persons are killed in the United States each day, and sometimes ten persons can be killed in one city on any given weekend?

I've heard this "three people" thing a bit lately. Considering the extent of many of the injuries... sizing what happened as "three people were killed" is really leaving a bit out. I know on 4/23 (one week after the bombing) there we 48 people still hospitalized. 1 week+ in the hospital is no scratch/burn.

I get it though... The damage done is not limited to deaths and injuries.
 
while i appreciat everyones input, these are not my own words, its just i guess would be an article, im just passing along information, dont shoot the messanger. no one gets hell when they post a CNN article, why is this any different?
 
businesses were not "forced" to close, they did so by choice, and a few remained open. people were not "forced" to stay in their homes. people were "advised" to not go out. people were closing business and staying home out of a sense of cooperation, they were not "forced at gunpoint". the 4th amendment allows for exigent circumstances, and if anything unrelated to these circumstances (meaning "non-terror" related shit like guns, drugs, etc.), it will be thrown out in court, the same as any other illegal search because the search was not motivated by an intent to seize guns or drugs or whatever other shit people had going on. the sky has not fallen, but people need to educate themselves on the differences between a request and an order, because it seems like a lot of people on both sides are oblivious.

the stuff about the cameras that caught the images belonging to the people and not the gov was spot on, but everyone crying martial law is as bad as the talking heads fear-mongering with all the "omg terror" talk.
 
its all about bloodlines anyway, or maybe if you have TONS of money

I know this but Uncle Buck doesn't seem to recognize it, which is why I made the comparison
Just like the Jews that joined the Nazi ranks or financed them, Uncle Buck supports the system that destroys his people.
I don't understand why.
Ron Paul is for the people and he is one of the few representatives who has represented our interests in a long time.
For some reason UB is trying to join forces with the oppression, The only reason I can see is that he sees the day coming when the only position of comfort available is oppressing his fellow man so he is trying to position himself as one of the gestapo for when that day comes.
Ron Paul is right. Taking the liberty of others is wrong.
 
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http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/EpisodeSounds/4ACV05/16.mp3
 
yeah, ron paul was about the only rep for the people left. sadly he is a dead or dieing breed. im sure UB has his reasons, i can respect his opinion, even if i dont agree with it, my job is to try to awaken as many people as i can and if this thread makes 1 person come out of their haze then i am proud of that. thats alot of the problem beardo, everyone is NOT recognizing shit for what it really is, our system is totally fucked and every one person feels so discouraged to change it, but that is what the state wants, to squash your dreams and human spirit.
 
yeah, ron paul was about the only rep for the people left. sadly he is a dead or dieing breed. im sure UB has his reasons, i can respect his opinion, even if i dont agree with it, my job is to try to awaken as many people as i can and if this thread makes 1 person come out of their haze then i am proud of that. thats alot of the problem beardo, everyone is NOT recognizing shit for what it really is, our system is totally fucked and every one person feels so discouraged to change it, but that is what the state wants, to squash your dreams and human spirit.

rawn pawl was only in congress for the insider trading, he took all of you for your money bombs and funnelled the money to his family. he knew his campaign was a joke, even his own son did.

you suckers got taken.
 
I do agree Boston was a disgusting show of force of the militarization of police.

I experienced that same show of force when I was visiting home in the Twin Cities on the week that workplace shooting happened back in September last year. I saw not only APCs and police dressed like soldiers with AR15s and sub-machine guns but I saw actual snipers on overpasses and atop of buildings on that side of town. Roads were blocked, traffic stopped, IDs demanded all after the actual event. Although I was not personally harassed and did not feel threatened directly it did feel like it was too much of a show of force especially after it was confirmed the shooter was dead.

I have also experienced police exercises in some of the mid-western and some western states. In MN, WI, ND, SD, and Iowa and in Idaho, I either witnessed, read about or actually experienced police exercises with the public being unwilling participants. In WI on vaca last spring traffic on a heavy highway going through Madison were forced to slow and stop as police came down off onramps in large numbers. We sat for a good 10 minutes not knowing wtf as autos began to pile up. Eventually they started moving and you could see police on overpasses and at the exits for a good mile or two. Thought there was a convict or something loose but local friend told me it was an exercise to practice containing traffic. This also happened to me in Idaho but I have heard of this happening a lot the last two years in many states.

We are headed in a very bad direction. In case anyone doesn't already know we have a national police force, it's called the DHS. If you see them coming, run. Arm yourself, educate yourself, and learn your rights and use them. We need to stop this push for a national police force, which is what's currently going on now with the militarization of police. DHS didn't buy up billions of rounds of ammo with our tax money for nothing.

US NAVY SEAL snipers were deployed around the dome after katrina. They racked up 30+ civilian kills over the couple of days they were in town.

Chris Kyle also confirmed this shortly before his death.
 
Buck + Obamas ballsack... Looks like you're still being "taken"...

how so?

was it when he cut my taxes, just like he said he would?

was it when he said the feds would not prioritize our state legal medical grows, and none have?

maybe it was when he said you shouldn't be denied health care due to pre-existing conditions, and now you can't.

i don't know man, you tell me how i got taken. so far my mundane expectations have been mundanely met.

hell, unlike the other possible administration, he hasn't even made a move on washington or colorado. oh, the humanity.

heavens to betsy, what would i do without an internet gaylord like you pointing out the detriment of the obama administration, and the hundreds and thousands of new dispensaries that came with it?

go back to calculating launch trajectories and cracking the nefarious jewish kabal, sport.
 
check the very first few words of this thread. what do you see there?

Apologies Buck, I always forget - it's not about the issue, rather, the personality... I do remember you comparing how well Obama was doing in office to his twitter followers, as always I appreciate your objectiveness...
 
businesses were not "forced" to close, they did so by choice, and a few remained open. people were not "forced" to stay in their homes. people were "advised" to not go out. people were closing business and staying home out of a sense of cooperation, they were not "forced at gunpoint". the 4th amendment allows for exigent circumstances, and if anything unrelated to these circumstances (meaning "non-terror" related shit like guns, drugs, etc.), it will be thrown out in court,
the same as any other illegal search because the search was not motivated by an intent to seize guns or drugs or whatever other shit people had going on. the sky has not fallen, but people need to educate themselves on the differences between a request and an order, because it seems like a lot of people on both sides are oblivious.
the stuff about the cameras that caught the images belonging to the people and not the gov was spot on, but everyone crying martial law is as bad as the talking heads fear-mongering with all the "omg terror" talk.

give me a break, waht the U.S. govt did was nothing short of fear mongering ' do not go outside' well why not? 'well because bad things will happen if you do'....ok....well '' open your door for military police and let them search your home without cause or warrant'' ...ok well what if i dont? 'well it will end bad' ...


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