Liberal government rejects Senate changes to marijuana bill, vows all Canadians will be able to grow

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    gb123 Well-Known Member

    well sorta its both ways lol with fights galore

    Federal Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor said the House of Commons will reinstate the right of all Canadians to grow cannabis in Bill C-45, saying the proposed legislation needs to be harmonized with laws dealing with alcohol, tobacco and medical marijuana.

    The Senate adopted an amended version of Bill C-45 last week that gave provinces the right to prohibit home cultivation, but Ms. Petitpas Taylor said the House of Commons will reject the Senate’s amendment, along with 12 others. Under the government’s plan to legalize cannabis, Canadians can have up to four plants in their residence.

    “Canadians can grow their own tobacco and make their own beer and wine at home…. People can already grow cannabis for medical purposes. We think it is logical for the proposed legislation to be consistent when it comes to recreational cannabis,” she told reporters.

    Ms. Petitpas Taylor said that if individual provinces want to impose further restrictions on home cultivation, they have the necessary leeway to make up their own rules, within certain limits.

    “Provinces and territories have the right to bring down the number to one plant for home cultivation,” she said.

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    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made it clear for weeks that he continues to favour the right of Canadians to grow their own cannabis. He added on Wednesday that the measure will be part of the three-year review of Bill C-45.

    “One of the strong recommendations by experts was that we ensure that personal cultivation of four plants at home. We understand there are questions and concerns about this, and we understand it will be important to study the impacts of what we are doing and whether there will be changes made in three years,” Mr. Trudeau said.

    Quebec and Manitoba have both decided to prohibit home cultivation in their respective legislation dealing with recreational cannabis.


    The Liberals are rejecting a Senate amendment that would allow provinces to bar people from growing marijuana at home. The health minister says the legislation should be consistent with medical pot rules around home cultivation.THE CANADIAN PRESS
    “If there is a legal battle to wage, we will wage it,” Quebec Health Minister Lucie Charlebois told reporters in Quebec City. “My message to the citizens of Quebec is that the provincial law has precedence over the federal law.”

    Ms. Petitpas Taylor declined to speculate on the Senate’s reaction to the government’s refusal to accept its amendment on home cultivation.

    “I hope they will accept the government’s decision,” she said. “I cannot comment on something that may or may not happen.”

    After rejecting 13 Senate amendments, the government is planning to use its majority in the House to send back the legislation – which fulfills a key Liberal election promise – to the unelected chamber for final approval.

    Independent senator Tony Dean, who sponsored the bill in the Senate, said he was disappointed by the rejection of so many substantial amendments.

    “I would have liked to have seen more of them accepted,” he said in an interview. “My view on this is that at the end of the day, government makes decisions and they are the decision maker in our context. Importantly, accountability goes along with that, the government is responsible for the bill and its outcomes.”

    He said he does not know how other senators will react and whether a power struggle between the House and the Senate is about to start.

    “I can’t predict what our response might be,” he said.

    The Conservatives will try to convince Liberal and independent senators to stick to their guns, especially on home cultivation and efforts to force more transparency on the identity of investors in the cannabis industry. On home cultivation, Conservative senator Claude Carignan said the government’s position will only lead to unnecessary court battles with Quebec and Manitoba.

    “It’s one of our key responsibilities in the Senate to defend the powers of the provinces, it’s a fundamental issue,” he said.

    There have been a number of political battles between the House and the Senate in recent months, but the one over cannabis stands to be the most closely watched as Ottawa seeks to lift the prohibition on the drug that goes back to 1923.

    After members of Parliament vote on Bill C-45, senators will have to decide whether they bow to the will of the government, or restore some or all of the amendments that were rejected by MPs.

    The government has said that it will open up the legal market for cannabis within two to three months after Bill C-45 is adopted by Parliament and receives royal assent.

    With the legalization of recreational marijuana on the horizon, the federal and provincial governments have been working together to develop rules on the use and sale of cannabis Here are some things you should know about the use and sale in your province.


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    gb123 Well-Known Member

    “I hope they will accept the government’s decision,” she said. “I cannot comment on something that may or may not happen.”

    hahahahaha oh you can see how this is going.. lol
    same ole same ole

    AND TELL NO ONE!!!!:idea::idea::weed:
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    gb123 Well-Known Member

    Bill C-45 and its proposed amendments will now go back before the House of Commons, which must approve, reject or modify the amendments made by the Senate. Once that stage has been completed, the bill will once again pass before the Senate for approval, before it can receive royal assent. A back-and-forth process between the House of Commons and the Senate will continue until the two bodies agree on the final version of the bill.

    so when is this gonna pass and how?
    Ill tell ya

    Like a constipated elephant who used to much ex lax to fix the issue lol:hump::idea:

    this may help the humor of it all

    Try to picture the monkey as curious george.

    3 scientists were sitting around the lab getting drunk one day when one turned to the others and asked, "What would happen if we put a giant cork up an elephants butt for a month?" Well none of them knew for certain so they decided to try it out. They gathered an elephant and a giant cork together in a cage. The first scientist said, "I'm not putting the cork up there." The second scientist said, "I'm not putting the cork up there." The third scientist said, "Let's train a monkey to do it." So they got a monkey and trained him to the task. The monkey entered the cage and inserted the cork. A month went by, and on the last day of the month the scientist gathered with a reporter to document the event. The first scientist said, "I'm not going to pull that cork out." The second scientist said, "Well I'm not going to do it." The third scientist said, "Let's train the monkey to do it." So they showed the monkey what to do and sent him into the cage. The monkey pulled out the cork and there was crap everywhere. The reporter walked up to the scientists and asked what they had learned. The first scientist said, "All I saw was a whole lot of crap." The second scientist said, "I am amazed by the giant amounts of crap." The third scientist said, "All I saw was that poor little monkey trying to put the cork back in."

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Glad to see the Libs sticking to the home grow rights. Not that it would affect me either way but I think it will have an impact on pricing longer term. Whether it would affect the BM or not as they claim is questionable, and not everyone will grow. But it will have effects on pricing if more people grow and hurt the LP's, or at least force them to lower prices. Anyone successfully growing their own for say $1/gram or less (outdoor) will not buy from LP's at say $10/g when they can either grow it, or buy/barter from a neighbour/friend/family for $2-3/g.
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    gb123 Well-Known Member

    "Anyone successfully growing their own for say $1/gram or less"


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