Rob Roy
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He's having a meltdown because he finally realized his proposed law makes him a prohibitionist, so he's tossing out a trail of lies to derail his own thread. Pathetic.
Legal to grow and possess illegal to sell
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ricky1lung
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Prohibition and regulation seem to have you confused.
If it is illegal, that's prohibition.
If it's legal, and laws set around legal ages, vendors and health concerns, that's regulation.
And yes, your equation of mj laws to slavery is silly. In comparison to true slavery mj laws are in fact trivial at best.
Don't want to be a slave? Start with not supporting banks and borrowing for anything. I bought my house mortgage free and have never been so free to do what I want, when I want.
There are far bigger fish to fry than mj laws that are changing in ways that keep people from being enslaved by a felony.
ChesusRice
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Still waiting Chester
Rob Roy
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You sound like somebody that thinks ahem collateral damage isn't really murder. Regulation that insists something cannot be done, IS a form of prohibition.
I find your advice to me somewhat amusing, with a touch of preaching to the choir, in light of my personal journey in life.
May your chains rest lightly upon you. Peace.
Rob Roy
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I told you to start a thread called arguing with Rob Roy. You can invite all your friends too, we'll have a party, but I'm not getting into any showers with London Fog.
Now. please explain why you want the government to prohibit / punish people for freely engaging in trade ?
ricky1lung
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Life must be tough when every time you look around you feel squeezed by your slave drivers.
You will not live in a world without some form of regulation. If you ever find the utopia you seek, let us know so we can choose to not visit the lawless land of rob Roy.
Without laws and regulation, the world you seek will quickly come to a tragic end when someone decides you have something they want.
You are seeking a land of lawlessness so you can feel free and release yourself of your own proverbial chains. I'm willing to bet the grass is full of shit on that side of the fence.
ChesusRice
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raw milk
Rob Roy
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Governance and government (a coercive monopoly on force) are not the same thing.
Also, you haven't addressed why you think some forms of prohibition are acceptable and seem to want to avoid that question.
Are you saying it would be better to not punish people for engaging in free trade, but since coercive government won't allow that, we should accept what little scraps we can get and accept that somebody else should define our peaceful existence?
sheskunk
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Rob Roy
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So, would you have favored some form of incremental, half ass but not quite, almost "freedoms" for black people or should the institution of slavery been utterly and completely abolished?
Would you have told them, look, raw milk is illegal, so that's why you can't be completely free?
Free people engage in free trade. Prohibiting free trade legislatively is akin to using a gun to rob people. Why do you think people should be punished for conducting trade with another willing party?
ChesusRice
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A friend or a vacant lot where it is growing in the wild
OR
Read this
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/how-dc-pot-legalization-has-become-the-dealer-protection-act-of-2015/2015/05/17/5cbcd730-f28d-11e4-b2f3-af5479e6bbdd_story.html
Hani Ahmed, a community activist in Southeast Washington, said changes in the law have provided dealers in his neighborhood a new layer of protection, because even if they’re selling on street corners, police must witness the drugs being exchanged for money.
LOL, just wow.
Like these community gardens you can just walk through and get free food, except for there is no free food because the garden is raped regularly.
Who is going to grow, process and cure all this weed? Who is going to guard it? Under current regulation, states won't allow it to be grown outside of a fenced area/building simply because it gets you high and this would obviously remain, so how the fuck does that go down? Who is gonna donate the fence and or building?
And who the fuck said anyone could just occupy vacant lots? Do they own them, or just fuck the owners and lets grow some weed on their shit!
Does everyone have friends willing to support the marijuana needs?
Yeah, sounds like a great idea, until the crack cocaine wears off.
By this logic, we should make everything illegal to sell so its all fucking free
ChesusRice
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BDOGKush
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I don't agree with that form of legalization.
Instead of eliminating the black market, it bolsters it while continuing the war on drugs.
It gets you "high". There is no way it will every be non-regulated in this country, ever.
Rob Roy
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So you want to use prohibition to keep cannabis prices artificially inflated, and potentially make criminals out of people that engage in peaceful transactions and you claim you're NOT a prohibitionist?
Your proctologist called and said he could help you, but he wasn't sure if there was a law that said "it's okay to have your head up your ass, but illegal to take money to perform an extraction". Please get back to him.
Exactly, because most wont be able to benefit from this free ride, because most wont offer free rides. Then we back to buying it from the street dealers at high costs.
And how long before some kids gets high from a free garden and gets killed? Murphy's Law says not long at all, and it will happen somewhere. Then there goes your free unregulated gardens.
It needs to be regulated out of the hands of our youth. Like alcohol and any other drug, it can't just be dangling from a tree branch waiting for anyone to snag at their hearts desire.