Legal rights

so here's a quick run down..my brother and his girlfriend are due to have a kid in the comming weeks, my brother just got out of jail but looks like he could go back soon. In a nut shell when my mom realized all the baby shot was under my brothers girlfriends Las name she talked them into getting married so the baby has our last name (giving my parents more rights to the baby in comparison to hers?) so in the event my brother went back to jail and her mother decided to just take her and the kid and hide them away my parents have some legal ground to stand on? Or let's say both my brother and his girlfriend go back to jail (they have a pending fraud case) and the custody battle between my parents and hers goes into effect would my parents have a better chance of getting custody with them married ? Or would it be whoever can prove the other is less fit to raise a child ,which I think my parents can win

Closed adoption away from all this drama that will destroy this child.

I told them not to have a kid in the first place till they straighten out, but it is what it is and the custody will likely end up with one of the grandparents...also both my brother and his girlfriend say her mom is a scitzoid psychopath and from the run ins iv have with her that seems acurate and probably a prescription drug abuser, my parents are both fairly successful business owners and don't use any drugs

But this whole thing got me thinking having kids shouldn't be a right, not everyone is fit to raise a child there should be like some screening/licensing you have to go through before you can have a kid

curious2garden said:

Closed adoption away from all this drama that will destroy this child.

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You read my mind, I don't see the logic in having kids with open court cases. But like he said ((it is what it is)) which seems kinda harsh when were talking about children's lives....he also stated that his parents ((MIGHT)) win custody .......sounds like they would be dragging this through court to prove,,who's not "as"bad as the other.......which is no good for a baby ..........sounds like a totally fucked up situation .....In the end people need to do whatever's the absolute best for the kids.....I've lost faith in our court system making the best decisions in these instances...

Coin flipping kids lives...

I'm not a lawyer; I do believe though that your parents will have a fairly equal footing as hers do if they are married. However a custody battle between grandparents can get extremely ugly, lots of stuff gets aired and basically the cleanest set of grandparents likely will win custody. But it gets real ugly and leaves wounds

Bublonichronic said:

But this whole thing got me thinking having kids shouldn't be a right, not everyone is fit to raise a child there should be like some screening/licensing you have to go through before you can have a kid

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I agree and disagree. I'm not sure the solution to this social dilemma. This is why I stay out of politics the unintended consequences of laws and regulations are not often foreseen. I'm for less laws and allowing a more natural selection process to proceed. I don't have a solution to this tragedy.

Indacouch said:

You read my mind, I don't see the logic in having kids with open court cases. But like he said ((it is what it is)) which seems kinda harsh when were talking about children's lives....he also stated that his parents ((MIGHT)) win custody .......sounds like they would be dragging this through court to prove,,who's not "as"bad as the other.......which is no good for a baby ..........sounds like a totally fucked up situation .....In the end people need to do whatever's the absolute best for the kids.....I've lost faith in our court system making the best decisions in these instances...

Coin flipping kids lives...

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Just cut the kid in half and grandparents get 50/50, that's probably the best solution.

Singlemalt said:

I'm not a lawyer; I do believe though that your parents will have a fairly equal footing as hers do if they are married. However a custody battle between grandparents can get extremely ugly, lots of stuff gets aired and basically the cleanest set of grandparents likely will win custody. But it gets real ugly and leaves wounds

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Indeed and the person who looses the most is the child. This is just watching a trainwreck.

I think the best thing for the kid is to end up with my parents, 2 out of theyr 4 kids went to college and have family's n good jobs, then there is me n my brother that are addicts, but I really can't blame them for our choices they gave us every opitunity and we just did what we did...2 outa 4 ain't bad

Bublonichronic said:

I think the best thing for the kid is to end up with my parents, 2 out of theyr 4 kids went to college and have family's n good jobs, then there is me n my brother that are addicts, but I really can't blame them for our choices they gave us every opitunity and we just did what we did...2 outa 4 ain't bad

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50% is a failing grade

curious2garden said:

50% is a failing grade

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Maybe in school when it's all on you...but parenting involves other people and decisions they make

LOL in your world snorting Xanax works.

curious2garden said:

LOL in your world snorting Xanax works.

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It does...that is a fact.....but that's beside the point

LOL Q.E.D.

curious2garden said:

LOL Q.E.D.

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I'm not gonna argue this with you, iv done it I know it works there are plenty of other people who do it and know it works despite what internet the internet says, all I can say is give it a try "for science" and when you realize what most already have, well then you'll know

Kinda like how they say you can't get high of suboxone even if you slam it...but guess what...

Bublonichronic said:

I'm not gonna argue this with you, iv done it I know it works there are plenty of other people who do it and know it works despite what internet the internet says, all I can say is give it a try "for science" and when you realize what most already have, well then you'll know

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I frankly enjoy talking smack with you. You take it well and come back with some crazy shit that's funny. Mostly I just look at what you say, chuckle and move on. But your caring for your putative niece/nephew touches me so let me try to explain, all joking aside now.

You are making the correlation = causation error. You powder the Xanax therefore increasing it's surface area. You then snort it. Mucus is created and the nasal cilia sweep most forward, and the rest drains down your nasopharynx into your stomach.

Because you have powdered the drug what little has drained into your stomach creates a quick uptake so you experience a 'rush' you attribute to snorting and the increased surface area. Therefore you do not realize you have wasted the majority of the drug. I do not suggest you do the test to prove me right. I suggest you walk away from benzo's and never look back. They create their own unique receptor surface so once addicted to this drug you will never be completely free from it even when not taking it.

I don't wish to derail your thread and I wish you well. I hope that explains better what I was saying about the Xanax.
Annie

What a mess. The grandparents need to find common ground and work together for the well being of that kid. I am telling you, they absolutely do not want to end up in family court over this situation.

blu3bird said:

What a mess. The grandparents need to find common ground and work together for the well being of that kid. I am telling you, they absolutely do not want to end up in family court over this situation.

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That would be the optimum solution. I agree. Unfortunately the op said:

Bublonichronic said:

....snip...... his girlfriend say her mom is a scitzoid psychopath and from the run ins iv have with her that seems acurate and probably a prescription drug abuser.......snip......

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So unless they place that kid I give it small chance. I've seen this type of script play out many times in the world I once worked in. It is absolutely heartbreaking.