LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

BlueB

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That one hits the 660-670 spot, but theres just not enough power in the 600 range to influence a spending decision. Check over the fiji purple SPD again. Theres also less of a green spike for the fijis.

Heres the fiji SPD
Lol, oh there it is, thought it was lost somewhere
 

BlueB

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Heres a look at pics I took inside the tent very early friday morning. Ill put pics up in a couple hours of how big they have grown in just a few days.


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This is a close up of the two farthest back on the left side of the tent. I love how those leaves cup up! This is week 2 of flower. The one on left is Blueberry, on right is an AK variant I had a bag of and found a single seed out of a quarter oz. I called the guy up and he was pissed; he had a QP and didnt find a seed in any of the bags at all. I successfully germinated the mother 09/11/2011. Clones did well. Its the last time Im running any of the genes I have though. Im running RockLock next, check it out: http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/dna-genetics-rocklock-feminized/prod_750.html

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Far left side of the tent. The flexible venting is a 6" inline 240CFM fan intake. 12" stand fan pointed toward the middle to back side of the tent for optimal airflow.

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Canopy shot. Yeah I know the front left plant doesnt look so well. It completely recovered from severe nutrient deficiency during mid veg. The measuring tools I was using for liquid nutrients were way off. I solved the problem.

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Shot of my light setup. I decided it would be a much better idea to spread all that red out. From top to bottom: RedSun/FijiPurple/454/RedSun/660nm/SuperActinic/FijiPurple/RedSun
Could you post a photo of the 660nm next to a 6500k? It's hard to even see what's going on in your fixture with all the other bulbs in there
 

BlueB

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^^^^^^^^^^^^
This thread keeps going in circles, new people join, then post up the same graphs and talk about the same bulbs over and over again, nothing has changed since about page 200

Then someone comes in and says, "what's your problem can't you read the WHOLE thread?" Then they get pissed off and argue for a day and then leave. Then a new person comes in posts the same graphs and the same shit starts over again so there really is no point in reading past page 200 FYI

Anyway, where are the new bulbs that were promised like a year ago from the guy who started this thread that mysteriously vanishes for a half a year then comes back and says they got a new line of bulbs then leaves mysteriously? Another FYI, the only reason someone would NOT post a graph of their bulb is because you can get it elsewhere for half the price.
 

BlueB

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here we go again, another new guy ranting and raving about the same bulbs and graphs that were posted 150 pages ago, then another new guy jumps in and gets pissed and starts threatening people, calling names, etc, same shit, different day LMFAO
 

BlueB

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Bulbs to have in your lineup:

FloraSun, RedSun, ATI blue plus or UVL 454, Giesemann Actinic Plus, UltraSun (for those that still like lumens). The nice thing about the Giesemann Actinic Plus is that it has the 420 but also has 440, 460 as well. Why not free up a couple slots and get rid of the actinic 420 bulbs? forget about the Fiji Purple for fuuuuuuckkkk sake, it's a fucking marketing gimmick
 

kpmarine

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hey btw, did that fucking retard ever finish his new bullshit bulb line yet, what the fuck was his name again proFessor nutjob? proFessor assquack?????????
Dude, you return to a thread, and insult the OP in your second post. You weren't here to catch up, clearly. Why all the statements that you know are just going to cause hostility? Your comments were so inflammatory, that Lucius (Who doesn't really come by, and isn't even a fan of this thread, anymore.) felt the need to come by and tell you that it was bad for the thread. Albeit, not in a very friendly way. Honestly though, what kind of response did you expect in the situation? If you were just trying to catch up on the thread, why say something like this? How could your actions possibly be conductive to that end?

Edit: It is also generally considered good forum etiquette to make one big catch up post, instead of 18 smaller ones. Not required, but makes it easier to read.
 

PetFlora

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Don't bother wasting your time reading this thread, it's just the same ol' bullshit repeated over and over again without end. Just get some FloraSuns or any bulb containing the 660nm and you are good to go. Gro-lux, FloraSun, Aquamedic plantgrow.....they are all the same shit in different package with different price. Throw some 460, 630, 420nm in there and even better YAY
I for one would not have come to your realization until I came out the other end of trial and error. At least I did not buy into the Fijis- lol , and found zero benefit from Actinic bulbs over standard Quantum Grow bulbs, but that could be strain related.

LV has excellent results using basic GROW/FLOWER bulbs (as does BendMC on another thread, whose thread influenced me to get a T5). BUT as you point out, bulbs on the extreme ends of PAR will improve the result over basic bulbs, but they have not been promoted for horticulture
until recently.

Plus, UVL now offers a 660, which should further improve tric production. I have one and can't wait to hit mid flower to drop it into my mix of FloraSuns, RedLifes, UVL AquaSuns
and Coral Waves.

It does seem odd that Pr0f has been absent from his own thread this long, especially after developing a deep red prototype that he wants us to buy.

He did mention being sidetracked by induction fixtures, but they too need 630-660

BlueB If you don't like this threads' vibe, why not move on?



 

BlueB

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I for one would not have come to your realization until I came out the other end of trial and error. At least I did not buy into the Fijis- lol , and found zero benefit from Actinic bulbs over standard Quantum Grow bulbs, but that could be strain related.

LV has excellent results using basic GROW/FLOWER bulbs (as does BendMC on another thread, whose thread influenced me to get a T5). BUT as you point out, bulbs on the extreme ends of PAR will improve the result over basic bulbs, but they have not been promoted for horticulture
until recently.

Plus, UVL now offers a 660, which should further improve tric production. I have one and can't wait to hit mid flower to drop it into my mix of FloraSuns, RedLifes, UVL AquaSuns
and Coral Waves.

It does seem odd that Pr0f has been absent from his own thread this long, especially after developing a deep red prototype that he wants us to buy.

He did mention being sidetracked by induction fixtures, but they too need 630-660

BlueB If you don't like this threads' vibe, why not move on?



Flora, I moved on months ago after being harassed by the jerks long enough. The only reason I came back was to check on the status of the 660nm bulb idea I suggested a long time ago and to see where you and UVL were at. I also wanted to make sure that the people I am friends with in this thread aren't being harassed and misinformed. It seems as though they are and are about to move on as well. This thread is only good for one thing these days, and that is photos of people's hard work

Don't worry, I won't be posting helpful information here anymore, only to have it get lost amongst the b.s. and all
 

BlueB

Active Member
Dude, you return to a thread, and insult the OP in your second post. You weren't here to catch up, clearly. Why all the statements that you know are just going to cause hostility? Your comments were so inflammatory, that Lucius (Who doesn't really come by, and isn't even a fan of this thread, anymore.) felt the need to come by and tell you that it was bad for the thread. Albeit, not in a very friendly way. Honestly though, what kind of response did you expect in the situation? If you were just trying to catch up on the thread, why say something like this? How could your actions possibly be conductive to that end?

Edit: It is also generally considered good forum etiquette to make one big catch up post, instead of 18 smaller ones. Not required, but makes it easier to read.
Dude, don't worry, I won't be posting here anymore LOL had to let out some steam after seeing all the disrespect people were giving to my hommies over the last couple months, probably crossed the line a bit but oh well
 

BlueB

Active Member
This thread really needs to be wrapped up though as I've stated 100 times before. It keeps going in circles and if you people really want it to be informative for others (which I'm really starting to doubt) then take out the other 300 pages of repetitive crap

It really isn't that complex of an idea, there are about 10 useful aquarium bulbs that work for horticulture
 

Dr.J20

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so Blueb, are those 65w cfl's in the 2700K range?--reference to your "siggy siggy" of course,

also, if you feel like the thread is going about in circles, why not add some fresh info yourself? I mean it just seems a little odd to take the time to make multiple posts lamenting something you see as a problem, instead of simply saying, "hey guys, i know there's a lot of talk about which bulb and how to arrange them, but i just want to throw out ......." <---insert your own expertise here

just my two cents

be easy
 

Lucius Vorenus

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  • You can follow my grow in my sig.

    Chopped this a few days ago. Stopped taking pics etc. It all turned out well though. We sent these very tiny plants right into flower to try out the effectiveness of T5's on a large 18 plant grow. The problem is coverage. The T5's just don't have it. 3 8 bulb BadBoys barely covers 16 small plants (2 were under LED) so we would need to run 12 plants under 4 badboys if the plants were of appropriate size.

    We might do it again or we might stick to HPS. All in all, the buds on our Bubba were smaller than with HPs and the buds from our God Bud were about the same size. I think the different strains like the HPS light better. Pre 98 Bubba being one of them.

    Each plant yields what I would assume will be just over 1.5z. 1296 watts total= 672 grams .51gpw but those numbers aren't official until we weigh but im eyeballing it.

    pic of 1 of the 1 gallon tupperware containers i cure in. total yield filled 3.5 of them.



 

BlueB

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so Blueb, are those 65w cfl's in the 2700K range?--reference to your "siggy siggy" of course,

also, if you feel like the thread is going about in circles, why not add some fresh info yourself? I mean it just seems a little odd to take the time to make multiple posts lamenting something you see as a problem, instead of simply saying, "hey guys, i know there's a lot of talk about which bulb and how to arrange them, but i just want to throw out ......." <---insert your own expertise here

just my two cents

be easy
naaaa, the 2700k bulbs are low in blue light and are high in yellow light and 630nm if they are any good. there is plenty of 630nm light in the Flora Sun bulbs, ya really gotta see differently when doing the T5 grow. It ain't about Kelvin temp it's about wavelength. Those CFL's lights I got are high in the 470nm range and are for plant growth specifically. They are from Catalina Aquarium and that store has lots and lots of T5's that are purple colored for plant growth for around $10. It's a really nice store, and the owner is really cool.
 
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