led vs cmh

TintEastwood said:

315's....AND the 260's for side slammin the lumens.

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I actually have 2 hlg 260's in Rspec and a 135 about to go in around my 2 315's. Just cleaned the closet last night, and now just have to add the extra light. I have been super impressed with the cmh though. Dense, frosty nugs.

beercan said:

found a hydro crunch 630 de with 2 phillips 3100k bulbs for $330, anyone know anything about these?

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I don't know about that particular light, but I've had good luck with HydroCrunch.

Dang. You got me looking at craigslist for deals. Lol

Here's the kinda deal you want if buying used.

Scoop em up!!!! I'll pay shipping

Genetics around the us are plentiful. Several on here. Search seedbanks here on riu. At present I'm running some dcse beans and Greenpoint beans.

Lucky Luke said:

I run a 630DE CMH in a 4 x 4. Im running the Hi-Par. Not a cheap option though.

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But worth it, no? I recently swapped my 2x600w MH's for 315 CMHs, and my 2 1000w HPS sets for a pair of 630 CMH DE's.... (added another 315 in the center later, only in use during peak flower)

The reduction in heat and power alone is a blessing, and I am not seeing any depreciation in the bud density or quantity... Super happy to have made the switch to 630DE CMH...

beercan said:

As far as genetics go while were on the subject, who in the states is trustworthy that has good genetics? I think that genetics did play a big role on yield

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Just dont...

Order in small batches from attitude, and always invest in the insured shipping just in case customs empties the package. (Ive only ever had it 1 time)

Going local is just gonna cost you 4x as much for something you can be half as sure about the legitimacy of.

I like Seedsman more than Attitude. Attitude opened the original packaging and sent all my stuff in little baggies even though I requested them not to and paid for the extra insurance crap. All my stuff from Seedsman came in original unopened packaging. But I am thinking of trying out Baked Bean Seeds that are in the US next time I order seeds just to give em a try.

beercan said:

Scoop em up!!!! I'll pay shipping

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I would be willing. But bad timing. It's a 4hr round trip, and doing family vacation kills it for me atm. They get 125 for those bare vertical hoods.

Flagg420 said:

But worth it, no? I recently swapped my 2x600w MH's for 315 CMHs, and my 2 1000w HPS sets for a pair of 630 CMH DE's.... (added another 315 in the center later, only in use during peak flower)

The reduction in heat and power alone is a blessing, and I am not seeing any depreciation in the bud density or quantity... Super happy to have made the switch to 630DE CMH...

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o yes. Well worth it.

I run 2 315's and a 6 bulb T5 for side light on a 4x4 space. CMH is where it's at right now and I couldn't be happier. I do believe LED are the future when they get perfected and the price comes down. Here's some tight nugs grown under CMH. GSC Forum Cut Old Family Purple

Flagg420 said:

Just dont...

Order in small batches from attitude, and always invest in the insured shipping just in case customs empties the package. (Ive only ever had it 1 time)

Going local is just gonna cost you 4x as much for something you can be half as sure about the legitimacy of.

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I actually considered attitude but read of some horror stories of shipping to u.s., genetics I have now are just run of the mill, nothing special, just figured I was going to have bumps in the road, figure things out a bit with some hands on!

beercan said:

found a hydro crunch 630 de with 2 phillips 3100k bulbs for $330, anyone know anything about these?

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I have a hydro crunch 315 with the phillips thats been running like 4 months now no problem. Plants in veg love it just started a flowering round with it.

beercan said:

I did actually read that also that genetics may play a role in bud density

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Well it aint the lights mate. Ive been running 2x 260w hlg V1s since they first came out and the buds are like rocks.
As far as heat goes you would have to be running very hot to have a negative effect.
Id say its either genetics or lack of air exchange. Assuming you had lights at right distance and fully turned up on the driver.

I would be running another strain before I gave up on them. Not that CMH wont give you outstanding results too. But I hate to see someone come to a false conclusion.

coreywebster said:

Well it aint the lights mate. Ive been running 2x 260w hlg V1s since they first came out and the buds are like rocks.
As far as heat goes you would have to be running very hot to have a negative effect.
Id say its either genetics or lack of air exchange. Assuming you had lights at right distance and fully turned up on the driver.

I would be running another strain before I gave up on them. Not that CMH wont give you outstanding results too. But I hate to see someone come to a false conclusion.

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I agree with most of this. Genetics play a huge role in the density of your buds. If you have the loose bud strain it don't matter what kind of light you put it under it's going to stay loose.

I wouldn't give up on the LED either. I use them as side lighting with the CMH above. Or use them for veg..

Cmh 315 watt cmh lamps. I have yet to see anything grow better. I mean you can do pretty awesome with an LED but it has to be like gs thermal solutions true 1000 watt shadowless lights. They are awesome. But don’t save electricity. They have to be run with an iPad. Pain in the ass then again if I were to use something like that to be in a warehouse where your growing in 5000 sq feet.

Legit though. Genetics genetics genetics. You can have a four pound dwc plant like this one under one 1000 watt air cooled Never carried through it’s true potential though . I just suck at dwc I guess I but here’s some photos of some cmh plants I’d grown in the recent past I looooove cmh lamps the 630s are beast mode top plant hps 1000 watts Bottom three photos are cmh lamps so you can grow insane plants with cmh and cut down on electric even though I spent about thirty grand on electricity last year ugh

Will be adding a 400w hps to my 4x4 315w cmh setup in 2 weeks. Buds will be in week 4 flower. Will update with how things grow...

Who else has quality genetics in u.s.?
Seems that only glg and greenpoint are pretty reputable, attitude has a monster selection but not sure how secure it would be to order across the way

beercan said:

Who else has quality genetics in u.s.?
Seems that only glg and greenpoint are pretty reputable, attitude has a monster selection but not sure how secure it would be to order across the way

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Go to the breeders section of the site and check out the reviews. There are like a million US Breeders.