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Yodaweed said:

looks like you had to grow tons of super tiny plants to keep them within a foot from your lights that's the biggest problem with LEDs. Not a bad harvest but honestly you are running 10x more plants than you would need to if you had better lighting intensity not to mention putting them on those buckets is just reducing the amount of space your plant is able to grow by whatever height those buckets are. That might work for plants pumped full of salts but for quality buds that's not gonna work so great.

I still don't see many decent looking LED plants , mostly tiny plants that are pumped full of synthetics to try to boost the size, with no regards to quality or terpenes.

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Dude you need to stop spreading this bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about. Light penetration is far too complex for you apparently. Ive explained how it works to you over and over and shown you insane pics of LED grows with 10 foot plants with dense bud top to bottom but you still repeat this same nonesense.

skoomd said:

Dude you need to stop spreading this bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about. Light penetration is far too complex for you apparently. Ive explained how it works to you over and over and shown you insane pics of LED grows with 10 foot plants with dense bud top to bottom but you still repeat this same nonesense.

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You don't understand the law of the inverse square it's above your level.

Randomblame said:

Comparable to the one shown on your avatar..?
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Randomblame said:

Tse, such a nonsense ...?! I've seen 2m tall LED plants with no difference to plants grown und HPS, apart from more harvest and better quality btw. Lots of examples exsist.
It's only more efficient to scrogg, especially in tents!

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is this suppose to impress me? shadows all over the place in the video and the bud is super scraggly....

Yodaweed said:

is this suppose to impress me? shadows all over the place in the video and the bud is super scraggly....

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You mean scraggly... like the one in your avatar?
I'm not sure if one can get better yield and better quality from scraggly plants...
Only because you don't know how to use it properly LED's are not bad. And honestly, just because your tops maybe looks a bit bigger does not mean it's heavier.
You know all that stuff, mate, but you like for some unknown reason to argue with everyone using LED's. You can get better yield and better bud quality from less energy when using LED, that's not a claim, it's proven countless times and I hereby end the discussion, which leads to nothing anyway.

Randomblame said:

You mean scraggly... like the one in your avatar?
I'm not sure if one can get better yield and better quality from scraggly plants...
Only because you don't know how to use it properly LED's are not bad. And honestly, just because your tops maybe looks a bit bigger does not mean it's heavier.
You know all that stuff, mate, but you like for some unknown reason to argue with everyone using LED's. You can get better yield and better bud quality from less energy when using LED, that's not a claim, it's proven countless times and I hereby end the discussion, which leads to nothing anyway.

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This is what a properly grown bud looks like not that scraggly shit you smoke get some quality bitch.

Girl scout cookies x animal cookies

Now post some pictures of that garbage you are smoking so i can laugh

And you mean that looks impressive and is impossible with LED's?


Grown from ~400w of F- or H-strips. For sure more impressive than yours...

https://www.rollitup.org/t/strip-leds-in-the-garden-of-paradise.954799/page-14#post-14058522

Nonetheless, they look delicious, yummy!

Randomblame said:

And you mean that looks impressive and is impossible with LED's?


Grown from ~400w of F- or H-strips. For sure more impressive than yours...

https://www.rollitup.org/t/strip-leds-in-the-garden-of-paradise.954799/page-14#post-14058522

Nonetheless, they look delicious, yummy!

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Not gonna lie those are some of the scraggliest plants on that thread i have ever seen, zero density , zero tric coverage, please post pictures of plants that actually received proper light levels and produced smokable product.

Yodaweed said:

You don't understand the law of the inverse square it's above your level.

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Lol you dont understand that the inverse square law doesnt work in a reflective tent. The second light is reflecting off any surface, inverse square does not apply bro.

Inverse square law applies always and everywhere.

Randomblame said:

Try a simple 100k linear potentiometer. Something like this would work:

https://www.ebay.com/p/CE-5-X-100k-Ohm-B100k-Top-Adjustment-Dual-Linear-Potentiometer-Pots-V7y9/1753134929?iid=253343278634&_trkparms=aid=555018&algo=PL.SIM&ao=2&asc=50999&meid=a617617d0d7e4c8d99d91602a8728e54&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=12&sd=171819262349&itm=253343278634&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

It's a five pack and you should measure the real resistance using a multimeter. Use the one with the highest resistance, 110k would be optimal. Less than 100k would not allow to use all of the driver power. 95k would bei ~95% output, 90k ~90%. A 110k one would allow to use the full 108%. You get buy a better brand 100k poti if you want but I allways found one siutable in a cheap 5 or 10's pack of the B100k's.

Below is a wiring example(it's the same for mono poti's) and a screeny from a meanwell datasheet(dimming section). You can see in the resistance dimming area how a lower resistance effects the total output.

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Thanks Randomblame, you keep helping me a bunch. I tried all 4 combinations and they were all giving me the same dimming effect. I got a 100k pot, let me tell you something, that was a pain in the ass to solder lol took me an hour, finally attached it to the driver and it works now. I do have a slight problem that when i grab the dimmer it sometimes goes back to 100% lighting, when it rests and I move the switch, it works fine.

Any idea what that could be? Maybe a bad soldering job? I tinned the terminals and wire ends and kind of just sandwiched them. Are there any potential hazards that could occur if the dimmer fails? Is there a danger touching the dimmer/wires when the light is on?

DarthPlagueis said:

Thanks Randomblame, you keep helping me a bunch. I tried all 4 combinations and they were all giving me the same dimming effect. I got a 100k pot, let me tell you something, that was a pain in the ass to solder lol took me an hour, finally attached it to the driver and it works now. I do have a slight problem that when i grab the dimmer it sometimes goes back to 100% lighting, when it rests and I move the switch, it works fine.

Any idea what that could be? Maybe a bad soldering job? I tinned the terminals and wire ends and kind of just sandwiched them. Are there any potential hazards that could occur if the dimmer fails? Is there a danger touching the dimmer/wires when the light is on?

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Dude i feel you. I know how to solder and have soldered lots of shit in the past, but for some fuckin reason soldering the potentiometer to the wires took me a solid hour of redoing it until it was okay.

That problem you have with the light going to 100% when you touch the dimmer is from a bad solder job. I had the same issue. Not a big deal though, if the dimming leads short or touch something metal it isnt going to be a problem. When the leads short (touch), the light just turns off.

skoomd said:

Dude i feel you. I know how to solder and have soldered lots of shit in the past, but for some fuckin reason soldering the potentiometer to the wires took me a solid hour of redoing it until it was okay.

That problem you have with the light going to 100% when you touch the dimmer is from a bad solder job. I had the same issue. Not a big deal though, if the dimming leads short or touch something metal it isnt going to be a problem. When the leads short (touch), the light just turns off.

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Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same when I was soldering, much easier soldering cobs together because they lay flat. I had the potentiometer in grips and just managed to get them to hold, used kapton tape to secure the connections. Its fine as long as I dont bend the leads in an odd angle, I'll do a better job soldering next time but don't want to think about it till needed lol. It was so frustrating. Appreciate the help brother. Don't fret about yoda, he's been trolling for years

Yodaweed said:

looks like you had to grow tons of super tiny plants to keep them within a foot from your lights that's the biggest problem with LEDs. Not a bad harvest but honestly you are running 10x more plants than you would need to if you had better lighting intensity not to mention putting them on those buckets is just reducing the amount of space your plant is able to grow by whatever height those buckets are. That might work for plants pumped full of salts but for quality buds that's not gonna work so great.

I still don't see many decent looking LED plants , mostly tiny plants that are pumped full of synthetics to try to boost the size, with no regards to quality or terpenes.

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what in the flying fuck are you talking about? thats 4 plants per light on most and some only 2-3. 4 plants per light is still less than a lot of people and i average close to 2lbs a light(on a seed run) with only 600w. i only had 24 plants between 10 lights....

i was never one to troll you back but im gonna have to agree with 97.6% of the population on here that you are indeed an idiot who makes uneducated claims about other people's shit when you have little no idea or experience in whats going on......

so by your logic i should have run 2.4 plants for my 10 lights?? quality not so great? all my shit tested 22%-30% and still get well over market price. you are a troll through and through. take your micro grow to the kiddie section and let the respectful adults hold a conversation without you putting your worthless .02 cents in. i dont think i have ever seen a single comment from you that held any merit. change forums, change your tampon and maybe take up a new hobby.

you're just mad that i'm a one man show and slaying it and youre still failing as a grower and using blurples. you probably still live with your parents and grow in a tent in the closet. speaking of in the closet.........

Talk shit about shitty LED tech all you want, but give credit where credit is due. grow the fuck up

Yodaweed said:

Not gonna lie those are some of the scraggliest plants on that thread i have ever seen, zero density , zero tric coverage, please post pictures of plants that actually received proper light levels and produced smokable product.

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Nonsense! She is covered with tric's and rockhard. He pull over 3oz of dense Sensi Star nugs from one of his plants and the rest was between 2 and 3oz. Zoom in, mate! It's not the best quality shot(Smartphone cam), but you can still see she is nicely covered. He got +19oz out of 400w in a 2x 4' area. With an 400w HPS that's impossible for the most. Your nuggets look great, no question, but by no means better than others or mine. Learn how to grow with LED...

DesertHydro said:

what in the flying fuck are you talking about? thats 4 plants per light on most and some only 2-3. 4 plants per light is still less than a lot of people and i average close to 2lbs a light(on a seed run) with only 600w. i only had 24 plants between 10 lights....

i was never one to troll you back but im gonna have to agree with 97.6% of the population on here that you are indeed an idiot who makes uneducated claims about other people's shit when you have little no idea or experience in whats going on......

so by your logic i should have run 2.4 plants for my 10 lights?? quality not so great? all my shit tested 22%-30% and still get well over market price. you are a troll through and through. take your micro grow to the kiddie section and let the respectful adults hold a conversation without you putting your worthless .02 cents in. i dont think i have ever seen a single comment from you that held any merit. change forums, change your tampon and maybe take up a new hobby.

you're just mad that i'm a one man show and slaying it and youre still failing as a grower and using blurples. you probably still live with your parents and grow in a tent in the closet. speaking of in the closet.........

Talk shit about shitty LED tech all you want, but give credit where credit is due. grow the fuck up
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Legit your plants are tiny sitting on buckets you are running more plants than you need and your yield per plant is a joke, why even grow if you aren't gonna do it right, you are growing in fucking plastic bags sitting on buckets. Can you be any more ghetto or cheap? Maybe next time invest in some real containers and some plant elevators you scrub.

You LEDs guys like to build a boat while you row it, shit just doesn't make sense, all these hap hazard designs, shit grow setups, dumb asses growing on fucking buckets because they didn't think out their setup properly, then you try to turn shit on me cause i say something, what happened to fucking reality, you LED guys must live in an alternate universe .

LED users ^^

skoomd said:

Lol you dont understand that the inverse square law doesnt work in a reflective tent. The second light is reflecting off any surface, inverse square does not apply bro.

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You are mentally retarded, It's a law it cannot be disproven have you ever taken a science class in your entire life?

The amount of mentally challenged nonsense that is spewed by LED idiots here is mind boggling, you really need to go get some education, i'd recommend starting with middle school level material, that might be quite challenging for you.

Yodaweed said:

Legit your plants are tiny sitting on buckets you are running more plants than you need and your yield per plant is a joke, why even grow if you aren't gonna do it right, you are growing in fucking plastic bags sitting on buckets. Can you be any more ghetto or cheap? Maybe next time invest in some real containers and some plant elevators you scrub.

You LEDs guys like to build a boat while you row it, shit just doesn't make sense, all these hap hazard designs, shit grow setups, dumb asses growing on fucking buckets because they didn't think out their setup properly, then you try to turn shit on me cause i say something, what happened to fucking reality, you LED guys must live in an alternate universe .

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I think alot of what your seeing is inexperienced growers choosing LED before they know how to grow, it's rampant on this site. I agree with the small setups we see over and over, mostly guys choosing LED out of convenience since the white leds can be ran at half wattage of hps which makes the heat factor much easier to deal with in there mind when a good intake/exhaust system is all a hps grower needs. I'm testing some Quantums now to see how they do, one setup similar to hps with boards running at max and hung high like a 1k hps to let plants grow up to lights and another spot ran with a blanket of boards ran lower to plants similar to how strips are used. If these tests come back out yielding HPS in same size area i will change out my 1k hps's rooms but if not oh well it was worth the investment to find out the truth. So far I can say the quantums are doing a great job compared to mh/hps grows but i haven't finished a grow with them yet so time will tell and I'm sure I will let everyone know if a 20 year hps vet converts to LED or if they fail.