Led Users Unite!

Hey guys!

I started with the ipower 600hps and always loved loved loved leds and I knew I wouldnt rest till I got some. My first LEDs were the Mars hydro 600 from eBay. I am almost positive they are fake. The tag on the panel itself said some bs about leaving feedback. If they only sold them on eBay I could understand. I was getting tons of shit from friends who did nothing but put them down when I mentioned lighting.

Anyways I have a close friend who is doing an indoor basement grow. Last I knew he was using 1 kind750 until recently he mentioned he bought 2 of the kind k5's so he is slamming his plants with 2750 watts. I kept doing some searches online and stumbled across a site selling them for 15% off than another 5% if you purchased a 50$ membership. They also added in a free set of hangers and a pair of method 7 led glasses. Which are pretty badass btw. Make your red room look 100% normal. Sooo when I went to check out the cart only added in one of each and I bought 2 so I changed it to 2 and it didn't change the total. I kept adding till I got to 8 pairs and finally paid through PayPal with no additional cost. I ended up at 2880 for 2 1000 watt LEDs 8 ratchet hangers and 8 pairs of glasses. LOL

I'm only doing autos like my friend, with his 12 plants his best total yield was 52oz dry. I'm hoping for 1/2 that with my first grow.

As for the heat part!?! A watt of light no matter what type of fixture equals the same btu output as any other light. The savings is that these 1000 watt LEDs only draw 730+- watts at the wall. Those 730 watts put off alot more heat than my 600 hps did. So far I love the lights! But my room is boiling hot and the Ac runs non stop. I even just added co2 just so I could run the temps a little higher. The other thing I noticed since running Them is the humidity is way way to high. I fill a large dehumidifier every single day. Currently I'm going through a calmag deficiency and my grow shop is closed so I'm watching my girls suffer terribly.

heat isn't an issue with proper air movement and the heat doesn't compare to the metal halides or hps fixtures, I'm new to this led grow but its been incredibly impressive to me . i have the one kind 1000 watt led and ordered 3 more. i wouldn't lay that kind of money down for mediocre results . ill keep posting about my experience with my 4000 watts of kind led love for my plants.
and by the way..everyone is free to grow with whatever lights they choose
im not trying to convince anyone one way or the other ..just detailing my experience with them . id say its definitely worth the investment though.

6 weeks into a 8 week veg period

By scientific definition, 1 watt of electricity produces 3.41 British Thermal Units (Btu) of heat. This means for every 1000 watts consumed regardless of light type (HPS, LED, fluorescent, etc.), 3,410 Btu of heat is produced. Period.


I am still a fan of the k5! I almost have to be at this point. Since I got 2 already

do have any pics of your plants ? I'm new fairly new to growing but seem to have a green thumb so far
What kind of yield have you gotten using LEDs ? I would assume that when I get my 4 kinds running at once the end results should be impressive , my fingers are crossed lol

Billygreen said:

do have any pics of your plants ? I'm new fairly new to growing but seem to have a green thumb so far
What kind of yield have you gotten using LEDs ? I would assume that when I get my 4 kinds running at once the end results should be impressive , my fingers are crossed lol

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They are autos on day 50. I'm actually having issues with them and it's my first grow so expectations are a little low. I think it's a cal/mag deficiency.

Have to turn down the a&ab on the lights to get a good photo. I'm also building a new room as we speak. I started in a 6x12 area in my shed. Insulated well and nicely set up just a little small. Being insulated well the room does heat up rather quickly. Air in- air out on a thermostate worked well. But I figured co2 was inexpensive enough so I gave it a shot

Wow $3000 for 700watts of led...thats terrible kind is just raping people with these cheap chinese diodes.Now ill be the first person to say..people need to grow with what they want,but it always makes me wince just the same to see people get ripped off like this.The reason your room is hot is because those cheap diodes are much better heaters than they are luminares.They create more heat then they do PAR.You could have bought a top of the line at600 for less.Just a fucking shame lol.

Big smo said:

By scientific definition, 1 watt of electricity produces 3.41 British Thermal Units (Btu) of heat. This means for every 1000 watts consumed regardless of light type (HPS, LED, fluorescent, etc.), 3,410 Btu of heat is produced. Period.

No. 3.410 BTUs of engery is produced. Whether t
I am still a fan of the k5! I almost have to be at this point. Since I got 2 already[/QUO

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Big smo said:

By scientific definition, 1 watt of electricity produces 3.41 British Thermal Units (Btu) of heat. This means for every 1000 watts consumed regardless of light type (HPS, LED, fluorescent, etc.), 3,410 Btu of heat is produced. Period.


I am still a fan of the k5! I almost have to be at this point. Since I got 2 already

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No. 3.410 BTUs of engery is produced. Whether that energy transforms into heat or thermal energy depends on the type of light, or how the energy is emitted.

who paid 3 grand for 700 watts?

the guy got 2 1000 watt kind xls, for those of you who it really matters to they pull 650 watts from the wall but their performance equals or betters traditional lights.

I'm seeing first hand what the lights can do...hell yeah they are expensive but the results speak for themselves . yield and quality are my primary concerns ..after that is cost of use. ill be harvesting in 10 weeks or so.. ill be sure to let you guys know how it turned out.

i say until you've used something yourself to reserve your opinion about its effectiveness or quality . just saying....
time to take a puff

Billygreen said:

who paid 3 grand for 700 watts?

the guy got 2 1000 watt kind xls, for those of you who it really matters to they pull 650 watts from the wall but their performance equals or betters traditional lights.

I'm seeing first hand what the lights can do...hell yeah they are expensive but the results speak for themselves . yield and quality are my primary concerns ..after that is cost of use. ill be harvesting in 10 weeks or so.. ill be sure to let you guys know how it turned out.

i say until you've used something yourself to reserve your opinion about its effectiveness or quality . just saying....
time to take a puff

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Nah ive had enough of those Chinese leds..damn thing never last.Just a shame he got so little for his money,but to each his own.

Anyways take care

Original price is 1695 each. Not 3000 and I paid 1440 each.

Yes they are expensive but I have also heard about a lot less led fires than hps. I just experienced a hps bulb shoot sparks all over my plants.

Now they draw 730 watts at the wall but yield as much as 1000hps so there is a small energy savings. Customizable spectrum is another bonus. No switching of lights from flower to veg, no regular bulb changes are a few things I liked. Yes they are waaaaay over priced just like everything good in this world. Did it actually cost 160$ for my newest pair of asics tri-noosa 10 running shoes? Or could I probably run the same with a cheap ass pair of 10$ running shoes from walmart?

The cheap ipower hps probably cost under 10 dollars to produce and ship to the U.S. This kind led probably cost 80 dollars to make and ship so in perspective it all adds up.

Last year I spent 2000$ on a 70" LED TV. Fuck yeah that's a lot of money but over my 50" plasma there is a 440 watt savings. Its way bigger which is like the 5x5 footprint of the kind led. Again a few reasons that made me make the switch. It's tougher to justify buying a TV that won't make me any money.

As for growing this wonderful plant it's only for profit. I don't smoke and don't ever plan to. If I can't grow enough to pay back this little investment I think I should stop growing all together. I mainly made the switch because I have seen them produce a lot of weed. One kind led worth of weed from one autoflowering plant too.

All in all I'm on the fence with the price. I just said fuck it one day and ordered them and that was that.

Same here pretty much except I do smoke lol
But I did extensive research , I've seen the product side by side that produced under traditional and led lights and led wins hands down . They say it's rated for 50,000 hours and trust me when I say It will be used as long as it's working .
I'm growing for a some medicine for myself but also to make a little side money . I've invested 10,000 dollars Into my growing hobby in past 2 months .. I wouldn't have done that if the reward wasn't gonna be worth it .
I think it's the gift to myself that keeps giving lol and that was that for me .. My asshole tensed up when I paid for the lights because I hate spending money like that but 5 months from now the lights will be paid for and I'll be working my next round of "vegetables "

Correction ( 2 months from now next round will be working ) I'm working towards a harvest every 30 days

On a side note, 2880 for 2 lights that grow the juiciest tomatoes is worth it in my book.

I have also spent ass loads of money so far and now in the process of spending more making a new room. I started to small and hope what I have now planned to work out much better. if my wife had a clue she would lose it lol but I also didn't give her too much shit when she spent 700$ on a damn purse, not to mention it's ugly af.

30 days? How many rooms? I'm just doing autos now they seem to take about 70-80 days so I should be 35-40 days for a batch.

I dont think there is any dispute if these cheap leds will grow...the contention is the amount of plant usable light and value.Chinese epistars dont produce efficient PAR numbers..like I said they are better heaters than grow lights.AND the fact you could have bought lights with top tier diodes/spectrum for much less.You got ripped off plain and simple...will they work?sure...would a real light work better giving you less heat to deal with and more PAR.Most definitely.

resin hound is it? who are you talking to? i got quality lights that are doing wonders for my plants. i didn't get ripped off lol. sounds like you're just envious so you degrade what you can't afford and your product is most likely inferior because you have so much time to knock what other people are doing lol
i think that about sums it up little guy,now run along and play buddy.

3 rooms, 4600 watts all together..4 kind leds and a 600 watt hps and a T5 8 bulb for seedlings

still putting it all together, about three weeks into my current grow i realized the potential of what could be accomplished with an investment of 10g