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Big Slick 420 said:

www.cidly.com good communication and the best price I could find

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I'm sure your deal went down as you said but that's not the way mine went down.

I was strung along for days exchanging emails and they refuse to sell the new model to me even tho I was led
to believe that's what we were emailing back and forth on.

Pissed me the F off.

Anyone want the apollo go ahead and order but according to cidly guy he said it was now the old model that's why I went with the phantom. Which they won't sell to individuals aymore like the apollo because of a contract they have.

I have no clue what to believe anymore.

RainerRocks said:

I'm sure your deal went down as you said but that's not the way mine went down.

I was strung along for days exchanging emails and they refuse to sell the new model to me even tho I was led
to believe that's what we were emailing back and forth on.

Pissed me the F off.

Anyone want the apollo go ahead and order but according to cidly guy he said it was now the old model that's why I went with the phantom. Which they won't sell to individuals aymore like the apollo because of a contract they have.

I have no clue what to believe anymore.

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That's a shame.......any idea what US "manufacturer/dropshipper" signed the contracts for the new panels??? Is the dimmable apollo series also off the consumer table?

PSUAGRO. said:

That's a shame.......any idea what US "manufacturer/dropshipper" signed the contracts for the new panels??? Is the dimmable apollo series also off the consumer table?

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I don't know who the USA dropshiper is but I'm going to email the cidly guy I was exchanging emails with. and will fine out for ya.I'm not buying it because of the yanking I got. But I'll try to find out for ya.

The dimmable Apollo is new (They just updated their website during the time I was emailing them) and that's how they get around the contracts they sign with dropshippers. They change the outer shell and some minor details inside and are able to avoid any lawsuits.

I don't know if the new dimmable apollo is off to individuals as well but I doubt it.

I'll fine out and will post when I get a reply.

Here's his last email and his exact words..Leaving out his name .


All this happened caused we did not check the IP in the email before i replied the email.
Sorry for misleading.As we sell to one customer only, we could not sell to any other customer in USA. I should make it clear in the eariler eamil.

We singed the contract several month ago. "

I sent email so hopefully I get a response soon. I believe it's now 10:30 am there .

Anyway read this thread regarding my cidly exchange and some info on BSLED and EBAY ..it's a maze out there .

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/620137-led-light-seed-harvest.html

I have zero bad things to say about my interaction with Cidly. my only concern was the "unlit" LED which turns out is just the IR LED that we can't see with our eyes.

your story sounds shitty and I would have as much apprehension as you do... but what contract did you sign? Im not sure how you are obligated in anyway if you arent happy with something they are doing. did you pay up front for it and not get what you are asking for? if it was with paypal then you can get your money. if you used something else that has no guarantee then that is on you for not covering yourself, no? like if you knew someone that paid the Nigerian prince the money he needs to get his fortune out of the country... are you going to get mad at the Nigerian? or laugh at the guy that fell for it.

I think you should read my posts again because they didn't ask me to sign any contract so you have it all mixed up.

So your Nigerian crap has nothing to do with my scenario .

My dealings with them deserves to be told just as your dealings do so don't get offended when other's post .Your posts and dealing with cidly and other's were one of the reasons I went with cidly and not BSLED which in hindsight I should have stuck with my first choice.

I never knocked you and matter of fact wished you luck .

What ..you think I should shut up just because your transaction went OK..I don't think so.

whoa whoa whoa sir. please take my sincerest of apologies. was just baked and rambling. I guess I miss read what you wrote, but I certainly did not call you down in anyway, shape or form. no offense intended what so ever. did I tell you to shut up? did I knock you personally? I said you had one experience with one person and said the whole company is shady. Im not wanting to have an arguement, just a discussion. lets not make this personal please. I did not mean my statement in any personal way. and the related anecdote was just that... a silly story. let us move forward kind sir.

Cidly's legit, had several big custom orders from them already. Got the apollo's. No doubt I wanted the cidly king kongs, but those aren't available, cant get whats not available. You cant beat 1 dollar a watt. Even if you call these apollos old, these are the most powerful lights I've used to date. There are cheaper, and there are much more expensive, but how much bigger and better are you going to grow going from a dollar a watt to 3-6 dollars a watt. So led technology is there where lights can achieve great results for that illustrious 1 dollar a watt.

Here are a couple new plants that I have. These are again bagseed, they are just about 3 weeks since sprouting. They are being grown in FoxFarm's Ocean Forest and have been using CocoMax. They are both 5" tall with really tight nodes. I have been cutting off all the smaller shoots because I am going to try to grow a single cola on these for my first time, so any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated.

RhinoGrow.com ill have a new video soon. Anyone else thats want to show proof that their cheap LED's work as well as the high end one be my guest. Ive have read alot of hype on here without seeing any results.

drew425 said:

What was the brand of LED you bought? I love to go on the websites and do research on LEDs. I the fact that you don't have to use a ballast to power it, they put out less heat, and with smaller wattage you can get the same results. The only thing is if you want to grow from start to finish your going to have to get a decent one with at least a 4 or 5 band light spectrum minimum and they cant get quite costly.

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drew425 said:

Love my blackstar 240 as well. Im only using it for veg as I don't have room to flower under it since im using my closet. I've heard with LED's the only way you'll get a decent yield and compact buds when going from start to finish is if you have at least a 5 band LED. This gives the plant enough light spectrum when its flowering. So we're good with our blackstar 240's since its a 6 band LED. When I get my small veg tent I might try and do an LED grow from start to finish

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This statement requires qualifications; 6 bands sound well and good, but unless they're 6 wavelengths that are useful to a plant, they aren't going to do shit. Waste of energy. Going start to finish under LED I'll give you... there's definitely an adjustment period.

But it's important to remember that more than light goes into the equation... you can have the most stellar light on the market and not have the right humidity, CO2, pH, temps, etc... and grow shitty plants.

PSUAGRO. said:

That's a shame.......any idea what US "manufacturer/dropshipper" signed the contracts for the new panels??? Is the dimmable apollo series also off the consumer table?

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I asked my guy exactly what models are still on the table for us individual consumers in
the USA. Here's his reply from late lastnight which isn't much.I removed his name.

He sure does reply fast as always which is a good thing I suppose. Anyway..I'll emailed him once again just to clarify and this time I will name all the models except the phantom because we already know it's off the table.

Hopefully he's still around being the chinese NY starts on the 10th.


"Apollo 10 more than 300W about 330W or Apollo 8 Less than 300W about 260W
Depends on your spectrum.

Apollo 10 has 10 eyes, 8 has 8 eyes, each eyes has 15 leds

Each eyes could not be more than 5 leds total for Blue, White, Green.

Or in other worlds, Blue, White, Green should be less 33% in total LEDs.


Any question, please tell us.

Best wishes,

XXXX

Sounds like your guy just has a harder time explaining himself in English. Most liklely he feels pressed to give you the info, but know its hard for you to receive it being the grammar barrier. So he gives it to you in multiple ways. My contact at cidly is a woman, and has superb communication skills. She doesn't have to explain things in circles, and use (eyes) as description of product.
Maybe use a new email, contact cidly again to get a new contact, as to not be to harsh to current contact. If communication is really that difficult.

In no way am I harsh during my emails to my contact. It's his job and shouldn't feel pressed which he isn't.

He has a higher position as he explained to me due to his hard work(his words) and that
he always answers his emails everyday all at one sitting . Which is true because he always
responds .

He apologized for his earlier mistakes and is on track and I don't feel he should
be abandoned. It will help him with other potential customers in the future with his new position.

Here's his latest email..

"Gald to get your reply.

1)Apollo 2 with dimmer only now. the rest Apollo 4 6 8 10 12 16 18 20 will be in the future.

2)Yes, you can buy ZA, but ZA only Max 120W---White, Blue, Green less than 20 leds.
ZA could be with dimmer. Would you like ZA?

3)Kingkong, we are making the new housing. As the housing is too large,
the shipping cost is too expensive comparison with 300W

4) The First Design of Phantom is LED Aquarium light, then LED Grow Light.
The Distributor is selling Phantom LED Aquarium light now. The LED Grow Light will be later.
As we are on Holiday, my colleague will contact the distributor after the holiday, we resume to work on Feb.17 "

mamakush said:

This statement requires qualifications; 6 bands sound well and good, but unless they're 6 wavelengths that are useful to a plant, they aren't going to do shit. Waste of energy. Going start to finish under LED I'll give you... there's definitely an adjustment period.

But it's important to remember that more than light goes into the equation... you can have the most stellar light on the market and not have the right humidity, CO2, pH, temps, etc... and grow shitty plants.

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Sounds like you know more about me than lighting. So what bands are usable?

These are the bands mine has: Bands: 6 Band, Red: 630, 660nm, Blue: 425nm, Infrared: 730nm, Ultraviolet: 380nm, White: 12000k

ClosetChronic420 said:

Here are a couple pics. I only have one flowering plant right now, which is just bag seed unfortunately. The first pic is a little more than a week ago, the second one is recent ( 4 weeks into flowering ). Keep in mind my plants are not quite on the same level as some other people who post on here. She is smelling great though, leaves a nice fruity smell on my microscope. I was using CFL's before my BlackStar, and halfway through my buds are already as big as they were with the CFL's.
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How close is ur light? I keep mine between 10-14"

As far as I know GREEN light is useless in the growing of plants
there needs to be red in there for flowering
white and blue are good for veg.
this is only my observations

ClosetChronic420 said:

Here are a couple new plants that I have. These are again bagseed, they are just about 3 weeks since sprouting. They are being grown in FoxFarm's Ocean Forest and have been using CocoMax. They are both 5" tall with really tight nodes. I have been cutting off all the smaller shoots because I am going to try to grow a single cola on these for my first time, so any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated.
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You might want to try some plant training. LST worked great for me with my leds. Only thing is training might prodcue more colas. What I did was LST the plants for 2 weeks on each side which allowed the lower branches to get more light. This would in turn cause them to grow towards the lights and add more main stems for more colas. Either that or tie some of the branches down because LEDs do not penetrate as well as HIDs. They make sure shorter bushy plants and tight nodes which makes it harder for light to reach the bottom growth. Either that or once they get real bushy move the light away from them so they'll stretch

Hey peeps Im new to all this but got a pretty decent setup with a Diamond Series 350 XML 10W Cree. Come check out my LED grow, show some support if ya could don't really know anyone on here. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/622744-ds-350-xml-10w-cree.html

Thanks! Happy Tokin

Hey..for all you DIY LEDer's out there here's some info. I emailed makersLED about rapidled.com and asked if rapids solderless LED's will fit on their heatsink and about their new controller/driver that will work with the makersLED housing.

Here's what I found out..

Yes the DIY solderless CREE LED's from rapidLED.com will fit on the makersLED heatsink.

Plus makersLED is coming out with a whole solderless kit with a programmable controller with drivers that can be intergrated with the MakersLED housing and will be released in 2 months.

So I have to hold off on everything for another 2 months. I like the idea that I can build my own panel and not have to solder anything..for me it's the best of both worlds.

But my friend still wants to go the route with cidly or BSLED so we will order something from BSLED or cidly for my friend..if he ever makes up his mind.

http://makersled.com/


http://www.rapidled.com/solderless-kits/