Leaves looking a bit mangled from overfeeding
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Southerner
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Damn, im surprised 1200 did that. What brand nutrients are you using? I feed FloraDuo at 800-900 2/3 days with water on the 3rd day and never see burn.
Ghe flora trio series . Yea it's always been relatively low 600-800 it's had some deficiency issue about 3 weeks back but have been feeding with calmag . So there's been a few gradual problems. Hoping by reducing the nutes and maybe only water next feed should recover some .
Budzbuddha
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What medium
Matter of fact , give us all grow info ….
NUTES
WATER / PH
MEDIUM
NUTES
TEMPS / RH
LIGHTS
ETC.
Matter of fact , give us all grow info ….
NUTES
WATER / PH
MEDIUM
NUTES
TEMPS / RH
LIGHTS
ETC.
Soil compost 40% John inned
Water pH 250
Ghe flora trio
26°c 35% - 22°c 50% ( lights on /off)
480 qb watt using around 300/350
Have fed calmag one feed recently
Feed roughly every 4 days recently . Before was 5-6 days
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Just flushed with 18litres pH water , you reckon this will sort it and half the feed from here on
Southerner
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Next time I would recommend using ProMix(white plastic bale) for medium or Sunshine #4. Its going to make things easier on you. You can always feed FloraBlend as a sort of tea on random just water days if you want, but I would go ahead and make the full choice between salts or organic and go fully one direction.
CheGueVapo
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Looks really bad... those brown chlorosis spots on the leaves go so deep they are inside the bud, this is where it catches chance to start rotting soon. Harvest them as soon as possible, how long to go?
You dont need any feed anymore.
Let the plants drink before you water again, so the roots can breath.
Stop flushing... you CANT UNDO overfed damage! You just rott more and more roots!
Hint: It's not because of the lack of water!
Here's my expression list:
"reset character"
"on the wrong side of the grass"
"curtains"
"get smoked"
"give up the ghost"
or my most lovingly:
"go west"
You dont need any feed anymore.
Let the plants drink before you water again, so the roots can breath.
Stop flushing... you CANT UNDO overfed damage! You just rott more and more roots!
Hint: It's not because of the lack of water!
Here's my expression list:
"reset character"
"on the wrong side of the grass"
"curtains"
"get smoked"
"give up the ghost"
or my most lovingly:
"go west"
CheGueVapo
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US-scale ppm500 for 1200ppm mean EC 2,4...
There's lots of different kind of compost types.
Feeding a EC 2.4 to a strong soil... what you expected it to happen?
Im suprised that it is in that "good" health state, respect! Strong withstanding plant, it tried to mess with this ultra high salinity the hole time and managed it good long time. This is not feeding.... but trying to cram it!
Flushing cant undo it!
CheGueVapo
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Also 35% rH is too low..... that way your plants have high drought stress, extreme high VPDs and consume additional water... it literally gets sucked out the stomataes a lot more than 50% rH.
In that situation, when they consume additional water for any reason (Co², high temp, or pots that evap a lot are other factors ie), you must reduce the feed ppms per water...
Feeding when the first sings of defiency shows up, reverts any damage, and leads to high yield.
(except for organic because of the time offset releasing the nutes, you should act little more foresighted)
Feeding all the time does NOT grow faster but any excess damage is irreversible.
"Less is more!"
"Much does not help much"
I hope you learn from that!
In that situation, when they consume additional water for any reason (Co², high temp, or pots that evap a lot are other factors ie), you must reduce the feed ppms per water...
Feeding when the first sings of defiency shows up, reverts any damage, and leads to high yield.
(except for organic because of the time offset releasing the nutes, you should act little more foresighted)
Feeding all the time does NOT grow faster but any excess damage is irreversible.
"Less is more!"
"Much does not help much"
I hope you learn from that!
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I wasnt force feeding I fed half the mute requirements and around 800 ppm in flower . Ran into a deficiency and fed a foliar spray to the medium as I had no calmag . Then got calmag . I messed up and over fed one feed of 1500 and flushed the next day . .but force feeding was not the aim
I'll not being going by ppm again and just go by the nute chart . Probably why it was over fed in the last 4 weeks trying to hit a ppm targetUS-scale ppm500 for 1200ppm mean EC 2,4...
There's lots of different kind of compost types.
Feeding a EC 2.4 to a strong soil... what you expected it to happen?
Im suprised that it is in that "good" health state, respect! Strong withstanding plant, it tried to mess with this ultra high salinity the hole time and managed it good long time. This is not feeding.... but trying to cram it!
Flushing cant undo it!
Not sure maybe 2 weeks . Now I know , asked these questions when I ran into the problem . Guess Now I have an actual answer . Going to have to buy a book .can't learn by trial and error waste of timeLooks really bad... those brown chlorosis spots on the leaves go so deep they are inside the bud, this is where it catches chance to start rotting soon. Harvest them as soon as possible, how long to go?
You dont need any feed anymore.
Let the plants drink before you water again, so the roots can breath.
Stop flushing... you CANT UNDO overfed damage! You just rott more and more roots!
Hint: It's not because of the lack of water!
Here's my expression list:
"reset character"
"on the wrong side of the grass"
"curtains"
"get smoked"
"give up the ghost"
or my most lovingly:
"go west"
ComfortCreator
Well-Known Member
My guess is when you had a deficiency issue, you likely overfed the plant while also adding calmag.
It is hard to be disciplined but only change one thing at a time...if overfed, back off. If deficient, fix the deficiency. If you fix a def by fixing the def AND overfeeding, it causes problems like this (as my best guess).
It is hard to be disciplined but only change one thing at a time...if overfed, back off. If deficient, fix the deficiency. If you fix a def by fixing the def AND overfeeding, it causes problems like this (as my best guess).
Very likely. Also i dont see what the huge issue is . The buds are very nearly finished maybe 1-2 weeks max . Harvested a couple and theyre fine plenty of thc no bud rot and dense .
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The soil has 4-5 weeks of nutes for regular plants also chill . Shit happensUS-scale ppm500 for 1200ppm mean EC 2,4...
There's lots of different kind of compost types.
Feeding a EC 2.4 to a strong soil... what you expected it to happen?
Im suprised that it is in that "good" health state, respect! Strong withstanding plant, it tried to mess with this ultra high salinity the hole time and managed it good long time. This is not feeding.... but trying to cram it!
Flushing cant undo it!
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What do you mean us 500ppm -1200ppm . What are you feeding 500ppm in flowerUS-scale ppm500 for 1200ppm mean EC 2,4...
There's lots of different kind of compost types.
Feeding a EC 2.4 to a strong soil... what you expected it to happen?
Im suprised that it is in that "good" health state, respect! Strong withstanding plant, it tried to mess with this ultra high salinity the hole time and managed it good long time. This is not feeding.... but trying to cram it!
Flushing cant undo it!
I've read tonnes of posts people feeding upto 1500ppm
ComfortCreator
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It is hard to illustrate what they could be like without the issue...but I agree this hasnt been a fatal problem. Harvesting in the next 2 weeks would be fatal though imo. They lose 80% of their weight when dried. If allowed at least another 4 or 6 weeks they would be much bigger, denser and stronger.
When it comes to chlorosis . My guess was because of a nutrient deficiency. Which i tried to resolve with calmag. I only fed with calmag twice in the past 4 weeks and removed any spotted leaves . My guess is I should have continued to feed calmag .Looks really bad... those brown chlorosis spots on the leaves go so deep they are inside the bud, this is where it catches chance to start rotting soon. Harvest them as soon as possible, how long to go?
You dont need any feed anymore.
Let the plants drink before you water again, so the roots can breath.
Stop flushing... you CANT UNDO overfed damage! You just rott more and more roots!
Hint: It's not because of the lack of water!
Here's my expression list:
"reset character"
"on the wrong side of the grass"
"curtains"
"get smoked"
"give up the ghost"
or my most lovingly:
"go west"
Is there no way to resolve this by removing any spotted leaves and giving a small feed of calmag and let the plant go for another couple of weeks and completely cease all other nutes
drsaltzman
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Calmag is not gonna do anything for you at this point except make more trouble.
Your water PH is 250? Is that a different metric wherever you are?
PH should be around 6-6.5.
I also think you should let it dry out, then water it with a PH of around 6 and don't feed it anything else.
Your water PH is 250? Is that a different metric wherever you are?
PH should be around 6-6.5.
I also think you should let it dry out, then water it with a PH of around 6 and don't feed it anything else.