leaves dying very fast - bud leaves curling?

Also, if i cut the main colas and started curing those, how long will the buds under it live until death? How long could i continue the grow? I got a far better digital camera coming in a few hours ill get some good picks up soon!

Lol. Yeah man, I think what the bottle means by 'for nutrient solution' is just to add it to that rather than directly. Would be my guess?? Either way that's what it's for lol. The water!!
Sucking air out of your well room is a mint idea man. That'll give 'em the fresh air/c02 too right. If you had an exhaust fan now you'd be rocking!! And maybe even just with the hole there now, and taking your fan from that hole to use as an exhaust fan out somewhere, would suck air from the well room. I thought about doing a similar thing between two bedrooms, one's the grow room with closet attached to the other closet behind it into another bedroom not being used with the door closed so it's always around 50 in there. But winter came and I didn't need to lol.
If you're selling it I'm sure you'll be fine man. Obviously try it, but I've been hurting several times and clipped small buds just from the bottom of the plant early and dried over a light bulb on some thick paper and get high just fine. All mine is just for me so I don't really care if I have to do something like that you know. But like you said, take care of it properly and you'll get the best out of it.

Glad I saw there was a page two!!!

You can absolutely just cut the main tops off and continue to grow the plant. It'll grow until it finishes budding man. I'll probably be doing that in my room in a couple months because I tend to let them get a little too close to over large before budding lol. So I'm running out of light but I don't mind finishing a plant up like that. You can even re-veg plants by just picking off the buds and giving them 18 hours again and good feeding. So don't be shy about taking off buds if you think they're just gonna die on the plant. You'll have a head start and already know how it's gonna be!!

I'll be here for pics too then!!

Take a look at my grow and you'll see how my plants are.

Well the previous owners had speakers mounted inside the walls. But they just had tiny little holes that connected to the well room. There was 2 holes, so i cut them all the way through. I got a 435 cfm (exhaust fan) fan sucking the hot air off the lamp and throwing it into the well room now. Why i didnt do this before i have no idea...lmao! Then i have a 175 cfm fan sucking the cold air out of the well room and back into the grow room. Because once that hot air gets into the well room, well it pretty much turns back to cold right away. I guess ill try this for awhile and see what happens.You have lots of journal entrys, where do i start first haha? Yeah ill get those pics up tomorrow, i didnt get the camera in time for the lights to be on.

On another thought, can plants recover from heat/humidity burn? If i get the temp to stay way down (and not 90 degrees and humid) thing they might come back?

Also been reading up and seems like heat does cause them to die off and leaves to curl, all sorts of problems. I didnt think it was this crucial...

Sometimes a guy can wonder about himself eh?! Lol!
Air exchange is a great thing though dude.
And as far ash heat goes, yeah it is crucial. The other thing about heat is that when you're budding, constant heat above or around 90 can put them back into veg or into a confused/stressed state. Obviously depending on the strain.
I'll be looking at the pics when ya get 'em!!!
I have a few journal entries lol, start where ya like hahaha.
I always like pictures , and now this morning one of my plants has been getting ahead of the rest and those stems are below the canopy!
Already hairy and gorgeous. Somehwere around day 10.

Wow wish mine went that smooth. Well if i started over, i would probably get it right. But this is my first grow. Here are some pics, you can see why i dont want to loose these guys. I stretched their veg time for a higher yeild and well, there are shit tons of heavy buds that i do not want to loose. Here are some day shots, ill get some night shots also, lights turn off at midnight. You can see the maincolas are bright yellow, some sorta look burnt. BUT now the room is sitting at a wopping 72 degrees with lights on!! Its working Xanadulives haha! And i think the green pigmint is coming back into the main colas over night??? MMMAYBE hehe. I just got to the "i love my closet" portion of your journals. One could learn alot. I wish that, when i first started this adventure, that i would of read your damn journals LOL!




Its hard to see the true color because of the 1000w hps but the main colas are actually bright green and it looks like their leaves are dying off. This only started happening within the last week or two. When i first transported them to my house, they were bright green, and at the previous spot (had to transport 3rd week into flower) there was proper ventalation and never got hot by any means. So this has to mean something lol. Im going to get a digital thermostat today so i know the exact temps, im using an outdoor non digital one i dont know how accurate it is, its old. But before i would have to say, with the heat from the light building up for 12 hours....it was probably 90 degrees + and humid as hell. I guess im trying to re insure myself that this just may be the problem. Because they are about 2 feet away from the light, i know they arent too close. But you can see in the pics that the lower buds look healthy and are just fine.

Yeah dude you got lotsa bud there! I can see why you're worried lol. 72 is perfect man! And as long as your fans turn off at night you will probably be alright on your low temp. If you get a digital thermometer just take a look and see if it's one that stores the high temp and low temp of the day as well as the high and low of humidity. It's nice to have and not a huge cost factor.
If your plants are coming back then they should come back quick so overnight visual results will be possible man. With all those pics I would have to say that, especially that top of the big tall guy, is heat burned too. You know you had ph problems which kinda sucks but I think the heat was hurting them almost worse. You're doing good now though with that. You also noted that your lower buds are better looking, so that just make sense to me that the heat was a problem.
Next week I'm gonna borrow a camera from a friend and I'll be able to have some better pics of my girlies. Especially now they're showing me their sexy pistols and calyxes!
Hope you're seeing more green soon!

All i Can Say Is Keep Growing It Gets Better, Also Everybody Learns The Curve Just Like You, Practice. Take Advice And Dont Make The Same Mistakes.

Yea im thinking heat I did the same thing with my first grow temps around 90 degrees burning my plants all up and the curling of the leaves the same way.I also use the fox farm nutes and was over feeding at full strength but I was also growing hydro in a ebb and flow. I now grow in soil and have no problems at all and continue to use the fox farm line but only at 1/4 strength. So my problem was corrected by flushing,cutting back to 1/4 strength on the nutes and getting the spent air and heat out of my room. Good luck with finding your solution and future grows and like insane said it only gets better there is alot of great advice and growers on this forum who are more than willing to help new growers find the keys to sucess...

3 issues I see 1. Over watered and 2. lack of Magnesium and 3. PH you should have PH'd your water at 5.5 to bring the PH down from 6.8

wal-mart for the win! $12 gets you a thermostat with high/low recordings, average, and humidity. Under the lights rays after the adjustments its 79.0 degrees @ 42% humidity. So before i can only assume it was 95 degrees +... Ya Xanadulives, definitally looking forward to more journal entrys. H20Farmer, thats what i think im going to do, with Xanadulives advice, start from 1/4 strength and go down until harvest. As soon as i see some better reaction. I want to thank everyone here for helping me out and theres no question, ya more than likely solved my problem and i learned alot. I will keep posted frequently just to keep this thread alive incase something takes a turn for the worse haha which, what else could possibly go wrong? LMAO!

You're Welcome!
Can't wait to see some pics of your buds and joints!!!!
Things always get worse before they get better!

Im not going to bark against your thoughts, because i appreciate it alot by any means but i know for a fact they arent getting over watered. Each plant holds a different amount which i have come to learn how much that is, and 2 days later they are dry and wanting more. The reason for frequent waterings is because someone had said add perlite to fox farms OF but that was a sad sad mistake. FFOF doesnt need jack, i dont care what anyone says, if you had perlite, your going to have extremely fast draining. So what i have to do is give it half its water, then come back 2 hours later for the rest of the watering. Let the water get to the roots and soak in the soil, otherwise its major run off. As far as lack of Mag, i wouldnt doubt, lacking everything else as i thought my problem was nute lock up. But get this, i was using the same exact schedule, starting at 1/4 strength, DURING VEGA! and they were just fine. But when they started to flower, it was required to use Tiger Bloom. Still were fine. 3 weeks later into flower i had to transport from a space that was properly exhausted to a place that wasnt and thats when this problem started. It just makes too much sense it was a heat issue. So the fact that i thought it was nute lock up, may have also hurt me as it was probably a heat issue. (been flushing for 2 weeks now) Ahh its confusing but ya your probably right.

REALSTYLES said:

3 issues I see 1. Over watered and 2. lack of Magnesium and 3. PH you should have PH'd your water at 5.5 to bring the PH down from 6.8

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Question about the lowering the PH tho that i have been wondering. So my soil was at 7.2 before i noticed the water i was using was 8.2. So the past 2 weeks of flushing ive been setting the water to 6.4-6.6. So your saying in order to bring the SOIL down from 6.8 i have to make my water mixtures 5.5? So bringing the soil, in my situation, from 7.2 to 6.4-6.6, my water would have to be about 6.0? I would honestly love to know how this works!

Also want to add that, due to the high temps would make the water evaporate faster correct? They seem to be holding the water better already. I dont think ill have to water every other day anymore but we will see! I walk into that room now its just suprisingly fresh and cool, already liking it! And its like, the well room im using is filtering the smell because, it goes in, and comes back out smelling like the damn well room lol! Also have a carbon filter tho.

At this point, ME EITHER!!! HAH

xanadulives said:

You're Welcome!
Can't wait to see some pics of your buds and joints!!!!
Things always get worse before they get better!

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heres what the tall one looked like 2 days after i brought them to the other place. Very starting of the leaf curling. This is also 3 weeks of using Tiger Bloom. So the tiger bloom is out of the question, but it does change the PH too sporadically. No myth there.

well it's like this your soil is 7.2 by adding 5.5 the soil will mix the 5.5 to the 7.2 and if you test the run off the PH would be much lower I've had soil PH problems years ago until I started doing that

here's a pic of what I'm doing now

So run off isnt a bad thing? How do you personally tell when theres enough water in the bucket? I know when it needs more. I will start doing that then, get some trays to capture it. I really like your set up. Does the rope go through rings mounted in the ceiling, then just tie them off to something and adjust the height? Never seen that, looks cool!

Here are some night pics, yes i kind of went a little crazy but theres plenty there haha! Wow they look so much worse at night .