Leaf Spotting. Think Different.

porrista

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the big patch almost looks like a light touched it , the smaller spots on the other leaf makes me think calcium def , but seeing how the soil isnt that old , kinda makes me think maybe the ph is off locking the calcium out , whats the ph on the water you are using ?
fox soil is pretty hot normally ..... and it also has a problem with ph instability ... main reasons i used it a couple times and just never looked back
I also think it looks Ca (rusty spots, no yellowing) lockout by PH. Light burn doesn't make sense because the most affected leaves are not at the top. You can also see initial spotting on the top leaves, seems it is advancing from the bottom.
 

woody333333

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Organic? You mean using chemical compounds? Tell me, how does your organic grown get it's iron,copper,boron?
I grow organic because its easy........ Im not a scientist and I really don't give a shit how

I saw your tent of doom the one day........ does the boss know youre fuckn off at work?
 

chuck estevez

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I grow organic because its easy........ Im not a scientist and I really don't give a shit how

I saw your tent of doom the one day........ does the boss know youre fuckn off at work?
Not a tent bro, I run 3 1000 watters with 24,000 btu of a/c and co2. like i said, i grow circles around you.
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and you have no clue how plants work, so STFU with your hippie organic BS.
 

chuck estevez

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Funny, you don't know how plants work, you grow "organic" because it's easy, you give shitty advise, then give me shit because I have the right answer and I DO know how plants work. Nice show there woodyee.LMFAO
 

woody333333

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Funny, you don't know how plants work, you grow "organic" because it's easy, you give shitty advise, then give me shit because I have the right answer and I DO know how plants work. Nice show there woodyee.LMFAO
that's a pretty sad looking grow chuckles.....
 

porrista

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Guys, we really don't care who has the bigger dick... you are kidnapping the thread on your discussion about who has it bigger.
 

chuck estevez

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Guys, we really don't care who has the bigger dick... you are kidnapping the thread on your discussion about who has it bigger.
yeah, well, You guys keep guessing it's ph and that Happy frog is hot and/or has ph issues, or the bottom of the pots are to big, or whatever the hell woodyee said. it IS a cal/mag deficiency, but not from ph, from R/O. Good luck OP.
 

woody333333

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yeah, well, You guys keep guessing it's ph and that Happy frog is hot and/or has ph issues, or the bottom of the pots are to big, or whatever the hell woodyee said. it IS a cal/mag deficiency, but not from ph, from R/O. Good luck OP.
im saying hes got a little bitty plant in a big pot and all the water that's been put in is drowning the little baby root system........... its the reason we (not you) start in small pots and work up
 

chuck estevez

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im saying hes got a little bitty plant in a big pot and all the water that's been put in is drowning the little baby root system........... its the reason we (not you) start in small pots and work up
i start in a 1 gal and go to 5 gal, How come No picture of your grow? HMMMMM!!!!

AND, IF, what you are saying was even close to true, it wouldn't show rust spots from that. Try again woodyeee
 

porrista

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The RO water, besides having no ca/mg, is more acidic, probably due to the same lack of mg/ca

.....Water that has been produced by a properly functioning reverse osmosis system is some of the purest water available, yet often RO users are surprised and a little alarmed to find that their very clean water is also “acidic”, that is, that it has a low pH. Neutral pH is defined as 7.00, but RO water typically shows a pH of between 5.00 and 6.00.

http://puretap.com/ph.htm

The leaves aren't looking heavy/overwatered to me.
 

chuck estevez

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The RO water, besides having no ca/mg, is more acidic, probably due to the same lack of mg/ca

.....Water that has been produced by a properly functioning reverse osmosis system is some of the purest water available, yet often RO users are surprised and a little alarmed to find that their very clean water is also “acidic”, that is, that it has a low pH. Neutral pH is defined as 7.00, but RO water typically shows a pH of between 5.00 and 6.00.

http://puretap.com/ph.htm

The leaves aren't looking heavy/overwatered to me.
Actually, I don't believe r/o water ph can be measured accurrelty because it has no buffers in it

http://www.hydrologicsystems.com/faqs/faq.php?id=34
 

porrista

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Not accurately measured maybe* but the fact is that RO removes the elements that rise PH and leaves the gases that lower PH, and it does removes the ca/mg supply from tap water.

http://www.hydrologicsystems.com/faqs/faq.php?id=34

Also, if the plant was mine, at this point I would be trying to correct that instead of trying to correct the pot size. And Overwatering doesn't seem to be the problem to me.
 

porrista

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PS: I would add lime+epsom or dolomite, or calmag to correct the problem.

To deal with the pot size problem and the possibility to have the bottom of the pot soaked in water all the time, I would water more often with very few water. I use a straw to water my young plants until I see the leaves reaching the border of the cup and the height reach about 3/4s of the height of the cup/pot. Using the straw is possible when you have few plants, may sound risible to someone running a large room but the point is to keep the soil moist, not wet and not soaked.
 
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