Leaf damage? Dtw coco

Hollatchaboy said:

What size container, and what size halo?

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I was about to ask you what yours were for those gold ones you use. Was going to buy pots that fit those and hook them up or get ones that plug into 1/4” tubing if that holds pressure better than 1/2” tubing straight into the halo.

Container is just under 7” or 8” wide or 5 and half inches wide. I am got that from another post where I measured all the small pots I have, 1 and 2 gallon. The 3 gal pots house a 6” halo easily but its too big, I am going to follow the suggestion to do 1 gal pots and more plants.

Marq1340 said:

How's the environment in that small space? My guess would be that you're just a bit into the red out for vpd, and having a fan blow on the leaves would exacerbate the situation. Too high transpiration is causing the problem is my noob assumption. If it is in fact the transpiration being too fast and you're unable to adjust the vpd then feeding it more ferts is the wrong thing to do.

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Last time is was 78F to 80F and 40-45% RH steadily because it is on 24/0 so it is stable and with a plant not packing the space too much to avoid micro climates and uncontrollable RH and spikes at lights out etc.

I don’t use vpd for the box and doubt it would cause issues unless it was way out of wack. The fans are inside out facing and weak air flow so I dont think thats an issue.

I moved the fan up a little but it was blowing right onto a leaf with no issues. I really dont think those are the issue, someone else suggested that too but I dont think its an issue.

medidedicated said:

I was about to ask you what yours were for those gold ones you use. Was going to buy pots that fit those and hook them up or get ones that plug into 1/4” tubing if that holds pressure better than 1/2” tubing straight into the halo.

Container is just under 7” or 8” wide or 5 and half inches wide. I am got that from another post where I measured all the small pots I have, 1 and 2 gallon. The 3 gal pots house a 6” halo easily but its too big, I am going to follow the suggestion to do 1 gal pots and more plants.

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I use a 6"halo in my 2 gallon pot. It completely saturates the coco, almost to the point of running over the rim of the pot. Maybe try a bigger pump?

Hollatchaboy said:

I use a 6"halo in my 2 gallon pot. It completely saturates the coco, almost to the point of running over the rim of the pot. Maybe try a bigger pump?

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I kinda mix matched threads, was referring to my larger setup, looking for pots and halos to avoid all the diy of like 12 halos. But that setup has 4 plants with diy halos that are poor and have a bigger pump to function and everyone is cringing from it which i can see why, somethings just wrong.

It is the halos, anything under 3gal pots that I have are too narrow so this space cabinet has a poor functioning halo with two big kinks that choke the line.

I guess I can diy one halo for the cabinet, toss 2 plants I dont care for after harvesting one before this and diy one more halo then switch to a pot that is good sized for a halo but I think only 2gal can be 10” wide to hold a 6” halo to drip appropriately. I want like 10 1gal pots with halos.

Havent checked out the other dripper the other member suggested yet, about to now.

So I had 4 plants poorly running with 800gph and 400gph pump for 4 plants but one was a space cabinet (this plant in question) , one 2 gal that is for next flower run in larger tent and two clones I am about to throw away because I harvested mother and dont care for the weed.

Then make every plant moving forward have a normal running halo or dripper with appropriate sized pump for all plants (8 in flower, 1 space cabinet and a veg tent with plant count to be determined) .

So the two remaining plants with diy halos I was just going to run them through, the other one now that I recall it runs pretty good. Its actually just this plant that has a bad drip.

They just need a 100gph pump each, the kinks are what make them not run well together, needing a super large pump. To my surprise though, a flimsy 100gph can run one just fine.

medidedicated said:

I kinda mix matched threads, was referring to my larger setup, looking for pots and halos to avoid all the diy of like 12 halos. But that setup has 4 plants with diy halos that are poor and have a bigger pump to function and everyone is cringing from it which i can see why, somethings just wrong.

It is the halos, anything under 3gal pots that I have are too narrow so this space cabinet has a poor functioning halo with two big kinks that choke the line.

I guess I can diy one halo for the cabinet, toss 2 plants I dont care for after harvesting one before this and diy one more halo then switch to a pot that is good sized for a halo but I think only 2gal can be 10” wide to hold a 6” halo to drip appropriately. I want like 10 1gal pots with halos.

Havent checked out the other dripper the other member suggested yet, about to now.

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Mine doesn't drip. It sends water all the way to the ends of the halo, and soaks the entire surface, probably about an inch. I have my timer set for 15 seconds, each watering.

Hollatchaboy said:

Mine doesn't drip. It sends water all the way to the ends of the halo, and soaks the entire surface, probably about an inch. I have my timer set for 15 seconds, each watering.

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Yea I ended up getting everything planned to buy and going with the latest on my other thread “setting up dtw 2.5x5 tent” which I think your on. Just was franticly trying to figure it out asap. Going the diy route just so I can move on. Will just let this run its course unless the poor drip has anything to do with the leaf damage.

Three days later holy cow it stretched another 4 inches. Leafs look ok, only certain ones were damaged and continued a little bit.

I hooked up drain to condensate pump bucket from a bigger grow. It drains properly. So I set it to feed 4 times a day every 6 hrs basically. Lowered EC to 1.1.

Thinking of super cropping to lower the canopy as I am kinda messing up, 1/4 or more of the canopy is out of range.

where's that gonna go when it stretches?

Greenman68 said:

where's that gonna go when it stretches?

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Was trying to do this again but that was 1 gal soil, now it is one gal coco which I think is too much. Doing half gal next time. It can stretch all the way to the ceiling but its already a little over 2.5 weeks flower so it should stop at any moment.

Like I said, I could super crop it right now or just let it grow with the lower 1/4th strip light not used.

I was trying to perpetuate the autos so this one got a bit too tall stretching for light in veg tent but is a big plant in general. Need half gal to gain 5 more inches of height as coco grows vigorous and/or strain related.

I want it to stretch it is just stretching in wrong areas too that are making the first few bars of light useless other than for clones below which there are.

medidedicated said:

Was trying to do this again but that was 1 gal soil, now it is one gal coco which I think is too much. Doing half gal next time.

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You don't need a smaller pot - just flip to flower sooner.

ec121 said:

You don't need a smaller pot - just flip to flower sooner.

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Its an auto. Its the only reason I grow autos, for fun. Something new and spontaneous to go through while I stabilize my main grow with photo period clones of best liking.

medidedicated said:

Its an auto. Its the only reason I grow autos, for fun. Something new and spontaneous to go through while I stabilize my main grow with photo period clones of best liking.

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I have never grown an auto, but in high-fertigation coco, I don't think it's going to change its size. You probably would be better off keeping the size of the pot the same and feeding 2x a day instead of 4x a day. Might even be able to do once a day or just introduce a trellis.

ec121 said:

I have never grown an auto, but in high-fertigation coco, I don't think it's going to change its size. You probably would be better off keeping the size of the pot the same and feeding 2x a day instead of 4x a day. Might even be able to do once a day or just introduce a trellis.

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A flat canopy in a 1x1 especially the way mine was built, very hard to access so a 4 main cola was easy to access and monitor. I do notice a difference h. plant size from 1gal to 3gal especially with autos in the first 30 days. I am sure that will make it a little shorter at least because the pot would be shorter.

For some reason in my garden, I have to feed often. I was feeding a 3 gal 5 times a day and a 2 gallon my first attempt in the space box about 4 times a day. They needed it too. Before I automated this, I think I forgot a feed and I needed to feed it much longer to runoff so must be there already.

The first nodes on this one was very stretched, was far from light which didnt help. I used lat clips and topped but still grew past the 3 bar mark in most areas.

The lowest I went was a solo cup but culled it at start of flower and it was still big for a cup but it was very stretched from using one cfl bulb the whole time. So not sure what half gal would do but you might be right. I was told ya it makes a difference but some say otherwise.

Heres an example, 3 gal both plants and only 2.5 weeks apart and one is a monster the other still dwarf. One is even younger and smaller pot, 2 gal but it grew dwarfy 5 weeks veg.

Edit now that I recall, the solo cup plant was waaay less vigorous than this plant. It had no training and less growth and thickness to stem.

Someone suggested that and I think this helps a lot. It wasnt getting the other side at all but now it does.

So half of the strip lights are out of range to buds. Thinking of super cropping to make them all fold over and grow from close to the bottom of the strip lights to grow side ways up as far as it can go.

Or I can leave it be but need to decide soon while stems are soft. They stretched over an inch over night. Shoot its buggin me but I forget that stretch should be almost over so I guess leave it be. Just checking what yall think.

I went with the super crop option. Has all the space it needs to grow just need to use another clip on each branch when it reaches back up for light. Out of clips though, need get more.

Going to leave larfy side growth to guide towards the middle so I have a flat canopy in center and the strip light exposure, doubled. So that is cool, trying a whole new structure and being coco that middle canopy could grow in dominance and yield more.

I should of shown a pic before but it was already at the last bar of light and just making me disapointed but now I am seeing it as a challenge to push it a little more and possibly yield more and have another way of dealing with stretchy plants.

As far as the leaf damage, I think it went away. I did a little defoliating and might have to again to avoid micro climates and light blockage.