Last week of stretch, last recommendations?

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by Project Ponics, May 16, 2018.

    Project Ponics

    Project Ponics Well-Known Member

    So today is week 3 day 2 of flower.
    Just gave them the last vegetation nutrient feeding last night, before I switch to PBP Bloom Soil Formula.
    They are looking great! Just wanted to know if there are any last second things I should do this week before the stretch phase is over with and they begin to start budding.

    I could of let them stay in veg probably another week or so to gain a few inches, as I thought they would of stretched a little more than they did, but I'm not complaining. They're only standing 12" tall with a week left of them growing. But my light manufacture says keep the light 15-18" above the canopy for flower, and right now the light is 18" exactly above the canopy with no more room the raise the light any higher. That leaves them about 3 more inches to go, although I'm sure they could get a little closer to 12-15" to the canopy without problems. Anyways...

    Any recommendations, or just let them do their thing from now on?



    Lordhooha Well-Known Member

    Well if it’s only the second day since they were switched to flower then they’ll be growing a bit more in the next week.
    Project Ponics

    Project Ponics Well-Known Member

    It's week two into flower, day 2.

    They have 5 days left of stretch.

    Greenhouse;save Well-Known Member

    And how many
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    how do you know how many days they have left to stretch? as far as i've ever been able to tell, you know they've gotten close to the end of stretch when you start to see actual buds starting to form, instead of just a few stray white hairs here and there. and a few will still surprise you and grow inches more after bud has set.
    i don't even see stray white hairs on your plants yet, i think you've still got a ways to go
    Project Ponics

    Project Ponics Well-Known Member

    Ok point made. I guess I'm going by the first three weeks "most people" say they stretch for.

    And mine started producing hairs about 2-3 days ago. Obviously they're not visible in the picture.
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    you were probably pretty close, just being a dick. you can usually guess fairly accurately after a while.

    Wilksey Well-Known Member


    You wrote in your very first post in the OP......
    So is it in week 2 or 3 after the 12/12 flip?

    Regardless, I'd go ahead and put up a trellis to support them, even though they are going to be smaller plants. A trellis isn't just for ScRog's, and they should be used to help you arrange the buds under your light to maximize the light they recieve.

    I'm not a big fan of using bloom nutes alone because I don't think most of them are balanced or have enough nitrogen or calcium to support the plant as it flowers, and it's these deficiencies and imbalances that limit the ability of the plant to use all that extra phosphorous and potassium. Instead of using straight bloom nutes, I'd recommend a ratio starting at about 80-20 veg/bloom nutes at week 3, and working your way up to about 20-80 veg/bloom by, say, week 7 or 8, before tapering off your ppm count prior to harvest, or depending on how the plants look throughout flower.

    Do what you think is best, but if you stick with bloom nutes alone and your plants start showing signs of deficiency in the fan leaves, or starts to cannibalize itself in any way, then you'll know why. At that point, cut down on the bloom nutes, and add some veg nutes to help green them up and keep growing those buds.

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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    i use calcium nitrate, epsom salts, jack's classic 20-20-20 for veg, and switch out the 20-20-20 for 20-10-20 citrus blend in flower.
    use a little more calcium nitrate in veg, and a little less epsom salt, and a little less calcium nitrate and a little more epsom salts in flower.
    Project Ponics

    Project Ponics Well-Known Member

    Didn't realize I accidentally wrote that. It's week 3 day 2 after 12/12.
    The first day they got 12 hours of sleep/light was on the 1st of this month.

    I was thinking about a scrog but didn't think one would be necessary for how short they are with all the topping/lst.
    And that makes sense, but I could always go buy something to add to the bloom nutes other than cal-mag, so I get that extra N. I don't think P or K will be a problem using this Botanicare PBP line. But then again what do I know, this is my first grow.
    Not really sure what other products I'd want to be looking for though, the guy at hydroponics store up the road from me recommended the Botanicare line. Said it was a very good and easy to use for beginners, so I just took his advice and went with it. Upon doing research about the brand line people "say" it's aimed more for growing marijuana specifically whether that is true or not I don't really care. But I have read good reviews about this particular line.
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    Roger A. Shrubber

    Roger A. Shrubber Well-Known Member

    botanicare makes pretty good stuff. if you have the grow and bloom, i'd mix them about a week into 12/12, starting about 75/25 grow/bloom, and each feeding do as Wilksey suggested above^
    all i think you should need is some cal mag, and i wouldn't use a lot of it, maybe half strength every other time you feed

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