K2 / Spice / Kratom / Salvia ( why ? )

Billytheluther

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Salvia is just fucking weird, had a conversation with 3 of me the first and last time I did it.
Luck you, this one time i swear there was a line that was miles long.. of clones of me.
For some reason i would say repeat yourself and there was a new clone, when i came off the trip my friends said dude you kept saying repeat yourself the whole time you were tripping…

we were watching the seed of chucky on a laptop at the moment, i was sitting on a couch.
Behind the couch was a mirror. I took a hit then the laptop went black, no pictue, looked back at the mirror and i could see the movie playing in the mirror.. thats when the couch ate me and i started repeating myself…

I would always feel a heavy force kind of push me back when on salvia.. felt kinda choppy, like i was a pice of plastic going agaist the wind or something. Anywho its a hell of a trip
 

Lockedin

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I have a friend who went down to South America to do the whole ritual. He said it was life changing experience, though I can't recall any of the specific details he shared.
IMHO - travelling is a life changing experience. :bigjoint:

Look up at the stars tonight - your stars - the ones that you've looked up at for (in my case) most of your life. Go somewhere that they're different.
Absorb a culture different from yours.
When you get home-sick - find someone to share a bowl with.
There are many variations on the puff puff pass ritual - but I've found it to be something that we all have in common. bongsmilie:bigjoint::eyesmoke::mrgreen::weed:
 

Lenin1917

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I have a friend who went down to South America to do the whole ritual. He said it was life changing experience, though I can't recall any of the specific details he shared.
Have a cousin who did and said the same, though did not display any change in behavior and is now doing a 10 year bid on some stupid irresponsible shit.
 

H G Griffin

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Have a cousin who did and said the same, though did not display any change in behavior and is now doing a 10 year bid on some stupid irresponsible shit.
My friend ended up working in remote, fly-in hunting camps up near the NWT/Yukon border, before Covid ended that, after being a prairie boy.
 

Dreaming1

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Tea time... (Yage with Chacruna and Chaliponga)Warm, astringent cat urine. Then a cup of liquid tar made in a dead animal over a tire fire. Want another cup of warm cat urine after that just to rinse. From failed attempts to waves of emanating vibrations that were strands of a web of energy connecting all of life. Had a small fire, saw something down the hill, got up and walked down there, listened to trees, turned to tell my buddies to come check it out, saw all three of us sitting at the fire. :confused: it's not like trees don't know important stuff, but there is a lot of gossip.
Saliva...10x extract. Rolling inside a tube wave then a fuzzy vibe came over body right to left. Strange place with evil carnival vibe. Dark Dr suess meets juggalo character said "hurry, before it catches up with us." Opened window and went to another place like a dimensional portal. Took me around an office type place. Had me file some paperwork. (What did I do? It's official now.) This worlds reality would keep creeping back into the visual field and he would have to open a portal and we would escape to another place. He kept insisting that we hurry to keep ahead of "it." It was persistent. Unzip the ceiling, come out of mirror, slip under door... If I didn't follow him, I could be back with my buddy and tell him stuff, but then I would get sucked back into it. Like a vacuum.
The scenes I was shown and the actions I saw myself doing would later happen IRL. I was shown the mundane future. Then the scene changed and I dove into water head first into deep water. But I didn't go into the water, just touched the surface. Another me was under there. I drained consciousness into that body. I went down under the sea. See what's going down and I ran smack into a weird couple. Small beings in a cage/prison cell. They wanted me to try to release them. The lady wasn't impressed, and said "it won't work, he's not a priest." The guy wanted me to try and said no one had been there in so long. Later there were "flashbacks" when one of the scenes I saw would occur IRL. About piss myself thinking I was gonna go again. The flashes started coming faster, but then finally stopped. This seems more along the lines of sorcery type stuff. The tea is more like peyote. And the life cult around it being a sacrament. The Salvia isn't being respected in the usage here. Makes it and the poisons you listed more along death cult lines. Kratom...idk. Seems to be use/abuse lines are blurred. a lot of people I see using it are opiate/meth addicts currently or previously. So much pain and suffering in life. No wonder we would choose assuage it at our own expense. WTF have we created? Why do we choose to keep it going? Devouring people in the jaws of time. :P keep your head up.
 

Sato

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Did most hallucinogens known and unknown and always end with a super high dose before I am done with something natural. Gonna scratch cacti sometime. Never found LSD. First time is the best usually with all of these natural substances, then they start diminishing. Feel bad about posting all of my bad life decisions that accompany all of my stories. I would advise to extract (I haven't) and not brew, the sickness isn't worth the hallucinations you will get, if that's what you are after. It's mostly personnal stuff related to yourself. Did 50x 1g Salvia and it was weird, makes you run around with no obvious reason. You focus on something and a whole story builds around it. No OOB with both of these substances. I have one on shrooms and it was with 10x less than the amount I ate last time, like 5g dried only. They are great for vibing with someone or with the world around you. Don't overdo the natural ones with a huge amount since you will ruin the experience. Pretty much done for a long, long time. The strongest imo are not the natural ones and they go hand-in-hand with wrecking the whole body, so I am not advising anyone to be as stupid as me trying in my earlier years. Since I already tried some of those I started scratching the natural ones of my bucket list.
 

Billy the Mountain

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I'm in a legal state, stopped by one the vape shops which are in every other strip mall to see the available glassware.
They were selling some CBD or "fake weed" stuff that looked exactly like the dried clumps of grass that build up on the bottom of a lawn mower.
My only though was "Who buys that?"
There's a dispensary with the real deal just a few miles away
 

Romulanman

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I've done a lot of hard drugs in my time on earth. More than I could remember for many of them. None of those adventures ever compared to one hit of 10x(?) Salvia. For sure scared the fuck outta me. Closest I could describe in having entered in the world of Roger Rabbit. I aint ever seen anything on acid like this...this was more like a vivid dream. The entire trip lasted about 45-60 seconds Id say.

I remember having one hand on a tree branch and the other on a wooden fence. I couldn't let go of either. I must have reenacted Neo taking the red pill in my mind cause something started to envelop me from the feet upward. The farther it went up my body, the more I started to panic. Full on hyperventilating shit. I know it completely overtook my head but that was the last thing I remembered. When I came to my body was in full sweat mode like I had been running for 10 mins. Breathing really heavy. My nervous system was freaking the fuck out. Never experienced anything like that in my life. I was a scared mf for sure. I was just glad to be back.
 

PadawanWarrior

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IMHO if you're "new" to the psychedelics game - I'd recommend shrooms.

Shrooms are generally considered "friendly" trips, and there is enough variety between strains to provide a really fun playground.
Not always, lol.

They grew naturally in Western WA during half the year. You just had to know where to go to search. When we didn't have any weed we'd skip school and go hunt down shrooms.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I went on a few shroom hunts on the central cal coast.

Had the absolute best and most recent - 20 years ago - trip with two of my best friends.
1/3 ounce liberty caps each and miles of empty beach.
We were picking Blue Ringers. Check out this shit. I lived in King County, right where you see all those green circles, lol.

 

H G Griffin

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I went on a few shroom hunts on the central cal coast.

Had the absolute best and most recent - 20 years ago - trip with two of my best friends.
1/3 ounce liberty caps each and miles of empty beach.
Damn.
I loved my zoomers back in the day but two or three grams was enough for me (along with copious amounts of beer). I think 8 or 9 grams would have likely been unpleasant unless I was in a controlled environment with people I trusted, and even then it would be touchy.
 

Lockedin

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Damn.
I loved my zoomers back in the day but two or three grams was enough for me (along with copious amounts of beer). I think 8 or 9 grams would have likely been unpleasant unless I was in a controlled environment with people I trusted, and even then it would be touchy.
I hate the body load of shrooms. Makes me “feel like a mushroom” lol
It was intense. That was part of the set & setting that we were looking for - 3 experienced trippers in a fairly remote (but known to us) coast with a lot of points of interest.
Body load -- I'll quote one of my fellow trippers on the day of the event - "It's alright, it's spongy!"
I find the body load to be more of a momentum question - once we started walking the beach, 6 miles passed un-noticed until we decided to turn around. No jaw clench like I would get with acid - these were just super friendly, "everything-sounds-the-way-colors-taste and it makes me laugh" kind of shrooms.


We were picking Blue Ringers. Check out this shit. I lived in King County, right where you see all those green circles, lol.

Those are cool looking!
Ours were shriveled up little red caps with a bluish white ring underneath IIRC - came from Santa Barbara. Probly a UCSB student making their tuition.
 

PadawanWarrior

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It was intense. That was part of the set & setting that we were looking for - 3 experienced trippers in a fairly remote (but known to us) coast with a lot of points of interest.
Body load -- I'll quote one of my fellow trippers on the day of the event - "It's alright, it's spongy!"
I find the body load to be more of a momentum question - once we started walking the beach, 6 miles passed un-noticed until we decided to turn around. No jaw clench like I would get with acid - these were just super friendly, "everything-sounds-the-way-colors-taste and it makes me laugh" kind of shrooms.




Those are cool looking!
Ours were shriveled up little red caps with a bluish white ring underneath IIRC - came from Santa Barbara. Probly a UCSB student making their tuition.
We really scored once at this brand new business that nobody was in yet that I found. We'd usually find them there, but once it was loaded. Giant ones all over. We just picked off the 2" diameter heads and threw them in a produce bag. Went out in the woods and made some tea. Got like 15 people high, and still had pounds of it left.

My friend and his girlfriend came by and wanted to get high so I gave him the bag. Now that I think about it though, I should have just given him some and dried the rest. But I didn't even think about it. I think they saved them for a bit. WTF was I thinking, oh that's right I was high, lol.
 

AlSeedsman

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I've done kratom and salvia. Far as I can tell kratom is in no way hallucinogenic. Oh and shrooms but never mind that. Salvia my experience was not as powerful as any of these other people's experiences but still pretty powerful. It was like I was perceiving bands of energy running through my body like guitar strings and the guitar strings were being plucked. Only lasted probably like 3 minutes. In a way it changed me forever though.
Dmt is kinda similar. I have some kind of natural tolerance for dmt so I had to take a lot, but if I'm interpreting my experience correctly l was my mom for a few moments. Another time that night I just saw the encroaching darkness and fought it by making my way to the garden hose and drinking water. Shrooms are what they are I did em as a youngster but I'm not into that anymore.

Edit: and why? We do this shit cuz we're curious.
 
Yep, Salvia is one of those strange ones. I would hardly call it a pleasure as it can be intense. I grew a plant of it and made extracts. the 10x experience always seemed to place me in the same strange local listening to Spanish speaking voices. Huh? Spark a bowl and transported within seconds then back, eons later, in minutes. Odd
 
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