K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

yeah, its nowhere near the point to where i would classify it as bad, the leaves are more or less acting like nitrogen deficiency, yellowing, and then crisping up n dying. Only it happens over the course of one night while im sleepin. so i know it aint nitro def for sure, its just gotta be either lack of light, or like you said TC, just fuckin the plant eatin up every last drop of what im feedin them. I AM goin light on nutes, but thats only as of late. During the beginning ive been like carbo loading the plants up with as much shit as they could take up at once, lol. But like i said, they didnt know any type of leaf tip burn or anything really until just this mornin when i woke up. Its wierd. There were just one or two leaves that had white tips, but its been like that forever. i woke up this mornin n a hell of alot more leaves had white or burnt lookin tips. I freaked out of course, lol, but thinkin about it now with a calm head, its like i said earlier - if this is the extent of the problems im gonna have during this grow, then fuckin thank god, lol. Happy as shit about that.

O n check this shit out -- I was supposed to get my NYC Special, Strawberry blue, the Legends AK, and Whiteberry today in the mail, but they didnt show. What DID show though, was a letter from BC Bud Depot. Just a letter like, "Sorry we took so long, heres an extra handful for your trouble" -- the fuckers sent me another tenpack of The Black for free man. So now i got 20 seeds. If i wasnt afraid of them being just regular seeds from a bag of beasters or somethin, lol, id do an entire run of just The Black, but i dont wanna risk it. I think ill grow out a mom of the black in a month when these are done, n see how vigourous she grows, and find out if shes a dank plant or just some standard BC Beasty bud. Probably IS the genuine black though, The entire article that hightimes did on The Black was about BcBudDepot. I dont have the article anymore, but im pretty sure that theyre the ones who developed the strain. i cant find anything else online about it. --if you guys find somethin, lemme know, cuz id like to know the geneology on the plant, and where it comes from climate wise.

Thats sweet you got the 10pack for free. Hopefully they don't take forever getting the rest of your seeds out.lol

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

o yeah, lol - btw Mane, thanks for stoppin by again dude, n thanks for the props Where u been at man??

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I be chillen
was good

not a damn thing man, just fuckin gettin it right finally, lol. just tryin to get by on the day to day man, waitin to get the fuck outta this apartment and into my own damn house - not just to grow, but because i been waitin to live in my own damn house for ever, lol. Cant fuckin wait man.


n TC, im actually waiting on the rest of my seeds from the Tude. i dont know why they havent come yet, but i do know that all of the strains i ordered were from the Legends collection, and im pretty sure they all come in glass tubes. so im not sure how well theyll get past customs or not, n im hopin right now that they do man, i dont wanna attract any undue attention in my direction right now. I cant remember if they ever took this long to get to me before - usually its 8 days on the mark from the day i order. fuckin sucks orderin seeds like this man - its a fuckin crapshoot.

how long has it been 9 days? lol, I wouldn't worry to much just yet.

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

ANyway, the question again, lol, did any of you ever have a canopy so thick that the bottoms had leaves goin yellow n fallin off due to lack of light??

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Yes definatly a possibility. I belive we went over this just a little while ago but didnt find the post.

With a 600W and a tight canopy you will only get about a foot or less of penetration and the bottoms will turn to stems, or have very little growth.

PS my room is under going renovations. Heres a sneak peak.

nice man, thats the name of the game, lol. always room for improvement, no matter how perfect we have shit set up . Im thinkin about taking this ballast and light out of the tent n hookin up my 1000w light n ballast, but i dont know what that would do as far as shocking the plants or anything like that, lol - some of the tops are actually on each side of the cooltube, just kinda hangin out, n i dont know if they would end up frying if i put in an extra 400w right there. what i mIGHT do though, is take all my cFLs from the top cab except for 1 or 2 so i can still veg my RD, and put them into the tent, so light can get to all parts of the plants. i just need to figure out what the best way to do that would be, as far as light fixtures n whatnot. ill have a whole week to figure it out though, i dont have any work n ill have a decent amount of free time ti make minor improvements to the grow, so hopefully ill get shit sorted to where i can pull this one off WELL, lol.

Another thing im definitely doing though, so i dont know if it even matters if i add light, is im gonna be taking all of the tops off when theyre ripe, and im gonna let all of the underdeveloped buds on the plant, to fatten up under the 600w, while i dry n begin the cure on everything else. as long as i do that, then every single site on the plant thats begun to bud, wether they mature or not right now, they will once i cut those tops off in a few weeks, right?? i hope so man. the least complicated i make this grow the better for me.

O n check this shit out too, i guess my plants are starting to uptake more water, more frequently, because i looked into my tent a little while ago, and my Northern soul's leaves were drooping and wilting. this is a clear sign of underwatering -- now the other plants arent doing that, but i think i can figure out why. the growbag for Northern soul is and always was SUPER light. not heavy when watered either, like the rest of the plants get. so that can only mean one thing im pretty sure, n thats that the plant has a MASSIVE root system, taking up the majority of the space in the bag, and when i water, it must pretty much just pass right through the roots n the soil, because i just watered them 2 days ago. All of the other plants had bone dry and rock hard topsoil, so i figured id give them a water too, and then water them every 3 days from now on instead of every 5 days. that should take care of that. what i did to hopefully fix the drying out problem was, i took a gallon of water, and fed the plant with her usual nutrient feeding, and then i took all of the runoff, and i ran it through her again, and again still. Then i took the runoff from one of the other plants and ran it through her. Finally she began to retain a little bit of weight, so i figured that she must have absorbed somethnig finally, and i left her alone. Hopefully this wont become a problem

-- plants cant become rootbound after theyve been in flower for a few weeks, can they?? i fuckin hope not man. I dont wanna deminish my yeild because of some bullshit little thing i didnt think of during setup. i guess only time will tell, lol.

O, lol - i figured out how to stop my tent from getting too cold at night too. i dont have a space heater i can hook up into my closet, so i think i figured out the next best thing here. My top cab always gets WAY too hot, like 90-100 degrees too hot. So what im gonna do is, take some 4" ducting, and connect it to one of my two 4" 80 cfm intake fans i have hooked up to the tent. Then im gonna run it into the cab, so the fan sucks the hot air out of the cab, and itll blow it into the tent, effectively exhausting the cab, and heating the tent at the same time. The other intake fan i have hooked up will take care of fresh air, i have a tower fan right next to it with the ionizer turned on, so its blowing pure air into the intake fan - i think it should be able to handle the hot air from the cab coming in as long as i have fresh air coming in at the same rate aswell. Its all getting sucked out of the tent anyway via the carbon filter, so it shouldnt matter. Heat is all im worried about with that - i dont wanna fuck up my yield because the tent is a couple degrees below tolerable for the buds. i wanna see a nice big yield, n then maybe ill unhook the heated fan for the week before harvest to bring out the purple in my twilight. hmmmm.... well see what happens i spose, lol.

til tomorrow,

k1.

Lol love your updates, but god damn bro, write a book!!!!

Thundercat said:

Lol love your updates, but god damn bro, write a book!!!!

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That's what I'm like, but I can't stop readin them though

K1 knows to keep them coming

Sup K1ng...!!!

How's it hanging...???

Life is good in the land of 30 below...!!!! busy as a bee...!!!

Catch you on the flip side...

Gypsy...

HOLY SHIT DUDE!!! lol - where the fuck u been man?? hidin out or somethin? hope all is well gypsy bro, n hope your back to stay - if not, then stay safe, n make sure u hit me up at least every once in a while man - pm me and ill hook up my email so we can stay in touch!!

N Mane n TC, lol

Guys, i cant help it. I may as well write a fuckin book man, lol, i know - when i start writing i just keep getting thoughts in my head, and i just end up typin them bitches out. I got to cuz even though im talkin with all you guys, im still keepin record of the grow, so anything that comes to mind about this grow, i gotta write it down, so i have record of the date that somethin happened, or an idea that i thought of but forgot the next day, lol, ill have it in here, just in case i dont write it down in my written journal. But other than that, i used to wanna be a writer, so it just kinda comes naturally to me -- hell who knows man, maybe one day after i get my progrower certification (LOL) ill write a book on my experiences so all n00bs can learn from my mistakes and successes. Ya never know man, if SubCool can do it, why not me eh

Anyways, everything is goin good with the grow thus far. No pics yet, but ill hook that up in a day or two, the underwatering fiasco has been neutralized, and the once wilting leaves on my northern are now spread out like fuckin batwings man. Just lookin lush and green. While inspecting my Sativa Pheno BlueCheese though, I noticed one leaf set that had a little bit of a Calcium Deficiency, being able to tell by the deep bronze spots randomly scattered across the fingers of the leaves. I just smiled though and thought to myself Thank god i already took care of this, lol - Last night i fed my plants with Big Bloom, Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Roots Organics HP bat guano formula high phosphorous, and some Cal/Mag (no Purple Maxx this time). I left out the PMaxx and the Mollasses this time around because of the overfeeding with it last time, i figured skipping a feeding would do the plants some good more than anything. Leaving out the mollasses was just a judgement call, cuz ive been feeding them mollasses every feeding for the last 5 weeks, and i figure that theyve got plenty of that shit for now, im gonna leave it out for the next couple waterings.

So i dont think the Cal Def spotting will spread, as its only gotten to a total of three leaves, and it hasnt spread since i spotted it this morning. The nuggets almost stopped growing over the last 5-6 days, but after last nights feeding, this morning they just looked fatter and healthier, wether they really were or not i dont know, but seriously i think im connected enough with my plants to be able to tell when theres a positive change in the way things are goin Theyre like full sized golfballs now though, and some of the nodes have flowers getting big enough to where theyre connecting with the node above them, so some tops are actually around 6-7 inches long right now, and it looks like theyre gonna get longer too.

Ill do an update around tuesday with pics. No sense putting up some more porn unless theres a little variety in it, lol. OO one more thing, lol - the plants have stopped shedding leaves severely too. I rearranged the plants in the tent, so there is one full thick bushy plant, and then next to it is a thinner taller sativa dom with less foliage. So its like Whiteberry, twilight, bluecheese#2, BlueCheese#1, Northern Soul.

I dont fuckin understand why my Twilight looks the most like a Sativa out of all of the plants, cuz shes supposed to be a pure indica breed. N When i do take pics on tuesday, ill take pics of the twilight so you can check her out, plus a pic of the two BlueCheeses together, so you can see just how different the two phenos are from each other. I cant remember who said this about Big Buddha, but they said something about them being a breeder of convenience, being more worried about the money he makes than stabalizing a strain for quality purposes. I was expecting my girls to at least look like the same type of plant man, but honestly the BlueCheese looks more like a Second Twilight plant. Unless i labeled shit wrong, lol.

N The Widows are lookin fuckin awesome. I took them out of the flowering chamber because they only have 4 nodes each on them, and i just figure if i let them go for another few days and develop one or two more branch sets, itll be more beneficial to me, n ill get a nicer top cola - like i said im leaving these two untopped, cuz i want that big baby leg cola, lol. These plants are perfect examples of what the result is when a breeder takes the care and time to make sure his strains are stable -- the damn plants are almost identical right now.

My 20 oz cup experiment is working pretty cool by the way. The plant inside is growing like a miniature. I gotta take pics for you to see what i mean, but shes only 3 inches tall, and she has 4 nodes already. Looks like a pot plant that barbie would have, lol. lookin really healthy though, N i cant wait to throw her into flowering. I cant wait to see what shes gonna be able to do.

The Red Diesel is slow growing. Only the one set of true leaves still. But i hit her with some nutes today, so hopefully shell shoot right out n up like the Widows did when they were stunted. I also fixed the venting problem in the upper cab by doin whatg i said i was gonna do last night. Its workin really well too, givin my tent temps an extra 5 degrees, takin shit from 60 at night up to 65, n during the day theres really no change. So were good there.


^^^ See what i mean?? i just realized that i did that shit again, lol. But then again, when theres alot to report on, sometimes your just worried more about the info being put out then the amount of space it takes up to get it out Thanks for tunin in guys, n ill definitely be takin pics on tuesday like i said. Things are getting fuckin interesting, to say the least. Its great to know that im now able to fix a problem successfully within a day of one arising (knock on wood). Knowledge is power

-K1.

wtf..... help me out here

Sounds great King! I was just givin you a hard time about your novels.

I know man, thats why i gave you another one to read - i guess i got a dry sense of humor eh, lol.

N for those of you who just cant sit through endless paragraphs of bullshit, basically in a nutshell - Everything is goin great. Had to snap n bend a couple of taller branches down so they were horizontal, and had a one day bout with Cal def, but i fixed it instantly, and all is well. Buds are startin to get good lookin n nodes are starting to connect.

everything smells like a motherfucker. Leaves are green as hell, and i just put the widows BACK into flowering again, to finally pull the trigger and let them do their thing.

Diesel is still a small little shit, but theres hope, and the 20 oz cup with the power skunk in it, is turnin out to be a midget plant, lookin like a full grown pot plant would if barbie wanted to grow, lol. Youll see tomorrow what i mean


--hope that cleared it up for you with the condensed version man, lol. N ill try to keep it as minimal as i can for you dude, i know u dont like readin them long ass updates, but you like to keep posted, so ill make sure i keep it as short as i can man

Ill be back in a bit

-K1.

bah, fuckit. i wont give a full update right now, but you guys wanna see some pics im sure, lol, its been a little bit since the last time, n after tomorrow i wont be able to do another update for 10 days cuz my camera is goin to cali for a vacation with my fuckin sister. So ill throw in just a few pics right now of my girls all stuffed up in their tent, crammed wall to wall, and budding just the same. Theres a couple plants that arent growing as explosively as everything else, because they spent alot of energy getting taller than the rest of the plants. But ive crushed the branches in between my fingers, and bent the longest ones over so theyre growing horizontally now. Everything is picking back up pacewise . Check it out for yourselves.

The last few pics are of first, the plants that i cracked n bent. Theyll be healed by wednesday for sure. The very last pics are of the midget im talkin about. believe it or not, ive kept a low watt light no more than 3 inches from this plants top at all times, and its managed to grow exactly as compact as i wanted it to. maybe ill top it right now, n see if i can get a mini bush, lol. Ill flower her in a week, reguardless of how she responds to the topping. Enjoy these pics, tomorrow ill take the plants out of the tent and let you get some overall individual shots with a real update.

those girls are shaping up nicely man !, ive added my first durban clone along with WW to my flowering room
and i couldnt control my self ... so here is some porn for ya

22g's wet ...prolly 7dry .. this isnt quite a whole branch.... i got 10 more on her for xmas chopping !

Lookin good King

thanks bro, preciate it

n GOD DAMN weedman, that shit is lookin DANK, lol. so you chopped that branch off then?? what made you chop off a whole branch for sample? just couldnt help yourself eh?? lol, i feel you man for sure - im gonna probably take a sample for new years if i have some developed nugget action goin on. I might give the girls an extra hour of dark for a couple weeks n see if it changes anything as far as speed of maturity(LOL), not that i expect it will, ive just had some problems with my timer, and its been varying by like 15 minutes every day for the last week for my on/off times. Hope that typa shit dont give me hermies or seeds at all.

Either way man, just props to you dude. For any grow at all, let alone a first grow, that shit right there is success at its finest. Enjoy that lil bugger man, smoke it in good health

Those girls are lookin real sexy King! They all have TONs of hairs!! I bet that shit is gonna be super dank!! I planted my mushrooms today, gonna post pics!!