ginjawarrior
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you aren't Jewish buck?
Jordan Peterson
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Mary's Confidant
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Not sure what happened last night but I assume everyone made it home safe?
Let's deconstruct the post for my sake. Is the article that Peterson posts, racist? Is it racist for the headline to say "black rioters"? From the little blurb that I could read in your screenshot, I thought it was a fairly succinct statement on Cultural Marxism.
Cultural Marxism is an amalgamation of things but race is not one of the factors. I still haven't seen anywhere that says you must hate Jews or Jews are the cause of it? Or that any other race is the cause of it. Especially not from Peterson.
Cultural Marxism is abstracted a level higher, it points the finger at philosophy, which is definitely what i agree with. And I wish all of the Jews and black and brown and white and every other color of person would agree with me. I'd love it if we were a united front.
My only request of you Buck, is that you do the very Un-Buck thing and not selectively quote to drive an agenda. I've allowed you to be demeaning toward me as you saw fit but it's not going to help either of us.
In an act of good faith, I'm going to revert back to serious conversation because I want to find the disconnect between UB and I. I'm not a racist or bigot and I'm guessing UB believes the same about himself.
Let's deconstruct the post for my sake. Is the article that Peterson posts, racist? Is it racist for the headline to say "black rioters"? From the little blurb that I could read in your screenshot, I thought it was a fairly succinct statement on Cultural Marxism.
Cultural Marxism is an amalgamation of things but race is not one of the factors. I still haven't seen anywhere that says you must hate Jews or Jews are the cause of it? Or that any other race is the cause of it. Especially not from Peterson.
Cultural Marxism is abstracted a level higher, it points the finger at philosophy, which is definitely what i agree with. And I wish all of the Jews and black and brown and white and every other color of person would agree with me. I'd love it if we were a united front.
My only request of you Buck, is that you do the very Un-Buck thing and not selectively quote to drive an agenda. I've allowed you to be demeaning toward me as you saw fit but it's not going to help either of us.
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ginjawarrior
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Ha ha your pissing into the wind with that request.
Buck demands nothing but absolute agreement
Overgrowthegov
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It also has a huge nose. Not sure why you need such a racist cartoon, it seems it might be against the rules.
UncleBuck
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You are having a hard time dealing with reality
Cultural Marxism is a nazi conspiracy
Jordan Peterson peddles that crap
Deal with it
UncleBuck
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That little cartoon was posted by the great Ron Paul on Twitter the other day
How dare you call Ron Paul and his nazi conspiracies racist
UncleBuck
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Nah
Sorry you are having a hard time accepting facts
Have your fellow cult members console you
Padawanbater2
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Ben Garrison must love you
Mary's Confidant
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You got it UB, I'll let you get back to your important work here.
UncleBuck
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Cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory that targets Jews
Jordan Peterson peddles that crap
UncleBuck
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so jordan peterson doesn't peddle cultural marxism?
or are you claiming that cultural marxism somehow isn;t a racist garbage pile conspiracy theory that targets jews and other minorities?
tell me where the disconnect from reality is, beefkitty
Beefbisquit
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JP has clearly, and succinctly stated that he is against neo-marxism not cultural marxism. He has no beef with Jews or any other race for that matter. He has explicitly stated this, so your implications and hyperbole mean nothing.
He has a problem with new-age Feminists for example, because they employ a post-modern ideology with a victim narrative chalk full of virtue signaling.
This is your disconnect from reality.
You are a stupid person.
He has a problem with new-age Feminists for example, because they employ a post-modern ideology with a victim narrative chalk full of virtue signaling.
This is your disconnect from reality.
You are a stupid person.
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UncleBuck
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Beefbisquit
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He posted the name of the article..... and the article says absolutely nothing about Jews. lol
Are you going to pretend these articles don't exist?
https://forward.com/opinion/401008/no-jordan-peterson-is-not-an-anti-semite/
https://jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/
Or this straight from jordanpeterson.com?
"The players of identity politics on the far right continue ever-so-pathologically to beat the anti-Semitic drum, pointing to the over-representation of Jews in positions of authority, competence and influence (including revolutionary movements). I’m called upon–sometimes publicly, sometimes on social media platforms–to comment on such matters, and criticized when I hesitate to do so (although God only knows why I would hesitate
So let’s take apart the far-right claims:
First, psychologically speaking: why do the reactionary conspiracy theorists even bother? This is a straightforward matter. If you’re misguided enough to play identity politics, whether on the left or the right, then you require a victim (in the right-wing case, European culture or some variant) and a perpetrator (Jews). Otherwise you can’t play the game (a YouTube video I made explicating the rules can be found here). Once you determine to play, however, you benefit in a number of ways. You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. Another unearned victory. You simplify your world radically, as well. All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution (see Germany, Nazi for further evidence and information)."
Wow, he sounds so anti-semetic you hapless cock-knuckle. lol Him and his critique of the right-wings conspiracy theory that the Jews are destroying European culture... Let me say that again..... CRITIQUE.
Seems like there's at least some jews that don't think he's racist or Anti-semetic either... strange....
And it seems like JP simultaneously put down right-wing conspiracy nuts, and Nazism in the same paragraph. What now Uncle Bumblefuck?
Are you going to pretend these articles don't exist?
https://forward.com/opinion/401008/no-jordan-peterson-is-not-an-anti-semite/
https://jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/
Or this straight from jordanpeterson.com?
"The players of identity politics on the far right continue ever-so-pathologically to beat the anti-Semitic drum, pointing to the over-representation of Jews in positions of authority, competence and influence (including revolutionary movements). I’m called upon–sometimes publicly, sometimes on social media platforms–to comment on such matters, and criticized when I hesitate to do so (although God only knows why I would hesitate
So let’s take apart the far-right claims:
First, psychologically speaking: why do the reactionary conspiracy theorists even bother? This is a straightforward matter. If you’re misguided enough to play identity politics, whether on the left or the right, then you require a victim (in the right-wing case, European culture or some variant) and a perpetrator (Jews). Otherwise you can’t play the game (a YouTube video I made explicating the rules can be found here). Once you determine to play, however, you benefit in a number of ways. You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. Another unearned victory. You simplify your world radically, as well. All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution (see Germany, Nazi for further evidence and information)."
Wow, he sounds so anti-semetic you hapless cock-knuckle. lol Him and his critique of the right-wings conspiracy theory that the Jews are destroying European culture... Let me say that again..... CRITIQUE.
Seems like there's at least some jews that don't think he's racist or Anti-semetic either... strange....
And it seems like JP simultaneously put down right-wing conspiracy nuts, and Nazism in the same paragraph. What now Uncle Bumblefuck?
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UncleBuck
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all that typing and yet jordan peterson still peddles cultural marxism, a conspiracy theory which demonizes jews and minorities
UncleBuck
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i thought your main strategy here was to disregard what jordan peterson himself puts out there though?
UncleBuck
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If you shared an article that blamed Jews for ruining society, would I be wrong to think you’re an anti Semite?
Beefbisquit
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Where in that article does anyone blame Jews?
From the article;
"Cultural Marxism is the Marxist dialectic fused with Freudian theory and applied to identity and culture. Like all forms of Marxism, it is based upon categorizing people into abstract groups and then creating a narrative of historical oppression between them. The strategy of Marxists is always to cultivate a victimized group and then convince its members that solidarity is required against the oppressors. This creates resentment and hatred and is how Marxist ideologies fulfill their revolutionary objectives."
So, you're still doubling down on JP is an anti-semite and yet he vigorously denounces anti-semitism while explaining that Jewish people are the most intelligent people, and are rightly so a higher percentage of millionaires and geniuses? That's what you're going with?
From the article;
"Cultural Marxism is the Marxist dialectic fused with Freudian theory and applied to identity and culture. Like all forms of Marxism, it is based upon categorizing people into abstract groups and then creating a narrative of historical oppression between them. The strategy of Marxists is always to cultivate a victimized group and then convince its members that solidarity is required against the oppressors. This creates resentment and hatred and is how Marxist ideologies fulfill their revolutionary objectives."
So, you're still doubling down on JP is an anti-semite and yet he vigorously denounces anti-semitism while explaining that Jewish people are the most intelligent people, and are rightly so a higher percentage of millionaires and geniuses? That's what you're going with?
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