Jon Stewart sums up Fast and Furious

UncleBuck said:
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Stick with the pics Bucky, we all know you don't have the intellect to articulate your argument, and it makes it much harder to expose your lies. LMFAO

You are such a major FAIL.
 
Red1966 said:
No reason? How about at least one dead Border Agent, thousands of dead Mexicans? Under your standards, we would have no crime investigation at all.
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What about thousands of dead Iraq civilians and Americans? What about the hundreds of deaths per day in Syria? What about the hundreds that die every day in America from being homeless? Give me a break man; there have been literally THOUSANDS of similar or more devastating situations, yet you want to still just choose this ONE because of ONE border agent.... I just don't understand why you're PICKING one incident.

Red1966 said:
Everything you said is illogical or outright lies. Where are you getting your information? NBC? The "news?" broadcaster who never mentioned the subject at all until AFTER Holder was found in contempt?
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n/m... you watch FoxNews....

I have a better non-biased source for you; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
 
beenthere said:
Stick with the pics Bucky, we all know you don't have the intellect to articulate your argument, and it makes it much harder to expose your lies. LMFAO

You are such a major FAIL.
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i guarantee that beenqueer posted this pic of his harvested sickly yellow twigs.

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abandonconflict said:
What if Obama is trying to avert crisis with Mexico by not releasing documents that may really piss Mexico off? Like maybe piss them off enough to altar their trade habits along with the rest of Latin America, that would suck.

fuck eric holder btw
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I had not thought of it from that angle. I doubt that's it but it could very well be part of the reason. I'm not a fan of Obama but for the sake of our country I sincerely hope this isn't a cover-up. I hope it all comes out in the end that he was just doing what was right, not for political reasons, we can only hope.
 
Red1966 said:
This is false. Operation Wide Receiver distributed 250 guns, not thousands. Every gun had a tracking device, not just a couple dozen. Mexican government knew of the operation and co-operated. Mexican government was tracking those 250 weapons. Fast and Furious was done in secret without permission from or knowledge of the Mexican government, those weapons were NOT tracked at all. Operation Wide Receiver was an attempt to curtail the gun trafficking from the USA to Mexico. Fast and Furious seems to be just an attempt to increase the number of assault weapons in Mexico to cause a higher death count to justify more stringent gun control laws. In other words, a political motive. This is the reason Obama has made the claim of Executive Privilege.
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I am getting all sorts of conflicting information, I see 400 guns, I see 1400 guns, for OWR. I see that they were tracked I see that some slipped "throught the cracks". What I don't see is intent to justify more stringent gun controls. There may have been all sorts of malfesence, there may be come criminal activity on the part of the U.S. but creating some purposeful assault on the 2nd amendment does not compute. If Obama is behind this very clever method of enhancing gun control - then he may not be half so stupid as the right claims. If he is doing such a thing, then why did he sign pro-gun lobby laws regarding carrying in Federal Parks and Amtrak?
 
Red1966 said:
Some of the weapons may have slipped between the cracks, tho you offer no evidence all all except your "understanding". Fast and Furious weapons were not tracked at all once they left the USA, and then only enough to verify they entered Mexico.Tthe Mexican government was a partner in OWR, deceived in FAF. These are major differences that you ignore because of political bias.
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that is correct, until I can find something concrete about OWR then it will be just my understanding and not fact. I can't see where it much matters if we do or do not have agreements with Mexcio, we have made incursions into other countries for years for a variety of reasons, why is this one so heinous?
 
So, are we blaming Obama for a coverup that has yet to be proven? Or are we blaming him for the dead agent?
 
Mind you, if we are blaming Obama for that dead agent then we are going to have to give him credit for killing Bin Laden, you folks can't have it both ways, either he is or he is not responsible for things that go on in his administration.
 
I am blaming him for the cover up , which is right in front of our faces. So far we the liberal excuses consist of:

1) Everyone else did it.
2) It may upset the Mexicans

Well no shit, we have been trading guns with the drug cartels that have been tearing their nation apart for years. For God sake, this is a chance to expose the drug war for what it is and you queermo's are turning it in into partisan nonsense. Do we want the drug war exposed, or do we want the President to cover it up? That is the real question.
 
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