Joining the army?

TogTokes said:
Dude we are not protecting nothing right now but our governments wallets!
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Do you know what we're fighting for specifically? If you're too caught on with thinking we're fighting for the government then let me ask you this.. What is the gov telling us we're fighting for?
 
Hepheastus420 said:
Do you know what we're fighting for specifically? If you're too caught on with thinking we're fighting for the government then let me ask you this.. What is the gov telling us we're fighting for?
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never had to tell us anything, they call it terrorism, i call it OIL!

seriously that brainwashed?
 
polyarcturus said:
hmm i would recoomend some type of training the milliary is a good choice. lots of things to learn there. dont really concern yourself with the "war" because your are just a guygetting paid to do a job where someone might shoot you in the head, but still even saying that it pays pretty good.

its not like you just became a cop, so i would say go for it if you dont mind putting your neck on the chopping board for a paycheck.


as far as protecting this country, well theres rarely a war where a side is actually doing that anymore.
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Like I said, you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
 
racerboy71 said:
vet's make up 1/4 of the homeless population, that's 25% to you and me, so that theory just went right out the window.. some great mental strength they must have, most of them i see are standing talking to themselves under some under pass...

i'm not trying to be a dick, i'm just a realist, and don't want to see anyone get fucked up doing some dumb ass shit, but hey, it's your life m8, do as you see fit, just realize it's not all it's cut out to be, and the pitfalls are many..
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-11-07-homeless-veterans_N.htm
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this satment may be true but those people spent thier money on tour. i had a friend whom was inthe navy. sweet house audi all the gooies. you know what happened? he bought all this while he was still on duty and wasnt home to take of it so he lost it all. so now hes broke by no fault other than his own.

if you want to succeed in the military you go there and treat it like prison, and DONT SPEND A DOLLAR, i know many of these"homeless vets" and most often its thier own damn fault, did some dumb shit b4 they left, bought a house, had a kid, got married, bought a car, ect.
 
TogTokes said:
What are they gonna do ride there camels across the ocean..
In all seriousness that is just nonsense.
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fucking people here freaked out over 9/11, can you imagine living in say fucking isreal where suicide bombers and the like are a part of everyday life for those people??
would really change our outlook on things imo..

a few years ago my sister was going on a tour of jewish memorials and shit for college, and one of their stops was in isreal, but they called ahead before they were due to arrive, and the street the hotel was on had been bombed a few days prior, so they cancelled the trip... that's everyday life for a lot of people..
 
racerboy71 said:
fucking people here freaked out over 9/11, can you imagine living in say fucking isreal where suicide bombers and the like are a part of everyday life for those people??
would really change our outlook on things imo..

a few years ago my sister was going on a tour of jewish memorials and shit for college, and one of their stops was in isreal, but they called ahead before they were due to arrive, and the street the hotel was on had been bombed a few days prior, so they cancelled the trip... that's everyday life for a lot of people..
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Yeah i hear that a lot. I am just against it.. giant bank security force pretty much LOL.
 
TogTokes said:
never had to tell us anything, they call it terrorism, i call it OIL!

seriously that brainwashed?
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I'm not brainwashed.. just bored with life. Air force sounds good.. But if I'm gonna be killing innocent people then it's not worth it, I just need to know if it's worth it with actual proof. Do you have any proof that it's not worth it?

And I'm not being mean to you.. you're a cool dude :bigjoint:
 
polyarcturus said:
this satment may be true but those people spent thier money on tour. i had a friend whom was inthe navy. sweet house audi all the gooies. you know what happened? he bought all this while he was still on duty and wasnt home to take of it so he lost it all. so now hes broke by no fault other than his own.

if you want to succeed in the military you go there and treat it like prison, and DONT SPEND A DOLLAR, i know many of these"homeless vets" and most often its thier own damn fault, did some dumb shit b4 they left, bought a house, had a kid, got married, bought a car, ect.
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oh, i'm not saying it's not partly their faults, but i mean the statistics are fucking staggering, one in four?? that's a huge chunk of people imo, and they can't all have been mental cases before they joined the military, or you'd think that they'd never of qualified to join right??
 
Hepheastus420 said:
I'm not brainwashed.. just bored with life. Air force sounds good.. But if I'm gonna be killing innocent people then it's not worth it, I just need to know if it's worth it with actual proof. Do you have any proof that it's not worth it?

And I'm not being mean to you.. you're a cool dude :bigjoint:
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I think you are too man, just think about it bro. You got a lot more you can do for fun than that lol.. Or excitement w/e
I wouldn't hate you if you did join, it is your choice. But like the other guy said just do it right. So you do not end up homeless and all that other crazy junk..
I would rather grow buds anyday lol.
 
Hepheastus420 said:
I'm not brainwashed.. just bored with life. Air force sounds good.. But if I'm gonna be killing innocent people then it's not worth it, I just need to know if it's worth it with actual proof. Do you have any proof that it's not worth it?

And I'm not being mean to you.. you're a cool dude :bigjoint:
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here's one for you hep, how many american's died in vietnam?? i could get the numbers for you if you like, and can you tell me wtf we were in vietnam for??? neither can i, and i bet most of the ones who were killed can't either... war is just useless imo, too many innocent people killed on both sides, and no one ever really wins.. ok, japan lost ww2, but fuck me, look at the cost..
 
One last comment, it is important to give it your all and specialize in something. My daddy used to say, "The more money they spend on you the better chance you got of coming home" My buddies kid flys the drones, they are bringing him back to patrol the border. Nice coushy job, good money, and they do it from hundreds of miles away. He loves his job.
 
TogTokes said:
I think you are too man, just think about it bro. You got a lot more you can do for fun than that lol.. Or excitement w/e
I wouldn't hate you if you did join, it is your choice. But like the other guy said just do it right. So you do not end up homeless and all that other crazy junk..
I would rather grow buds anyday lol.
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Yeah I'm good at not blowing money. So I consider that a good way to save up some money.
 
Hepheastus420 said:
Yeah I'm good at not blowing money. So I consider that a good way to save up some money.
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I can agree there. Just try for a decent job. And as of lately due to government budget cuts etc, not many branches are even promoting anymore. If they are it is a lot more rare. So consider that as well.
 
racerboy71 said:
oh, i'm not saying it's not partly their faults, but i mean the statistics are fucking staggering, one in four?? that's a huge chunk of people imo, and they can't all have been mental cases before they joined the military, or you'd think that they'd never of qualified to join right??
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every chess game has pawns(cannon-fodder is a better word tho), thats all there is to it. in reality most of armed forces are NOT qualified to do that job.

the friend i spoke off in the navy was a nuclear engineer on craft carrier
 
I mean if you have nothing going for you why not join the force? Maybe I'll just go be a fireman.. But they get paid shit.
 
polyarcturus said:
every chess game has pawns(cannon-fodder is a better word tho), thats all there is to it. in reality most of armed forces are NOT qualified to do that job.

the friend i spoke off in the navy was a nuclear engineer on craft carrier
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you're right about that, but i would rather be cannon fodder for a cause that i really cared about, and not just to make some politician money..

and your friend sounds like an intelligent man, and would do well no matter what career path he chose imo..
 
I think you should try to go be a crab/lobster fisherman w/one of the boats on Deadliest Catch. They make a shit ton of $ in a short amount of time...granted it's miserable, but it's all in a concentrated time period.
 
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