Johnson Grow Lights Maximizer time lapse

Stephenj37826

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thick 80 lenses........blah, "realisticissssshhh" par grid incoming

Well I may just hold off until Nate from growershouse posts his "realisticissssshhh" par charts lol. Also there are changes coming to the maximizer in the price department as well optics. The thickness of the glass plays a much smaller role than the refractance.
 

Rayne

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1 Jack the Ripper. 9 hours on 15 off. I'm not sure about the principles behind the photoperiod but I'm impressed lol. I didn't know he ran that short of a light cycle until today lol.
The principles behind the chosen photo period is simple. Cannabis is classified as "Short day / Long night flower." As the nights get longer the plant has more time to produce more calyxes and pistils. Unless you live on the equator, we all have to realize at some point during the fall/winter months the nights are longer than 12 hours.

If indoor growers want to do better than outdoor growers we all have to realize the plant has day and night needs. Granted during the day indoor growers can give the plant more daytime hours than an outdoor grower might, however indoor growers usually are not as savvy with the night schedule.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Well I may just hold off until Nate from growershouse posts his "realisticissssshhh" par charts lol. Also there are changes coming to the maximizer in the price department as well optics. The thickness of the glass plays a much smaller role than the refractance.
Nice, I like nate's work.................boys with a sphere will tell you otherwise, lenses in general are brutal, look at a51's new reflector for a good compromise imo
 

ttystikk

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Nice, I like nate's work.................boys with a sphere will tell you otherwise, lenses in general are brutal, look at a51's new reflector for a good compromise imo
Lenses are brutal? They're doing a bang-up job of directing light onto the canopy from every one of my modules.
 

Stephenj37826

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Nice, I like nate's work.................boys with a sphere will tell you otherwise, lenses in general are brutal, look at a51's new reflector for a good compromise imo
Well I have been working closely with ledil and I can tell you with a certainty that 95+% can be achieved using lens. It really comes down to refractance. Granted the KBS aren't perfect by any means. We are working on improving the optics to 95%+ transmitance.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Lenses are brutal? They're doing a bang-up job of directing light onto the canopy from every one of my modules.
Well I have been working closely with ledil and I can tell you with a certainty that 95+% can be achieved using lens. It really comes down to refractance. Granted the KBS aren't perfect by any means. We are working on improving the optics to 95%+ transmitance.
I'm talking about secondary lenses(NOT primary optics over the les/dies) and generally speaking..........their are exceptions of course with this fast evolving tech
 
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Stephenj37826

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I'm talking about secondary lenses(NOT primary optics over the les/dies) and generally speaking..........their are exceptions of course
Those exceptions are going to be what separates the men from the boys as they say lol. I'm also talking about secondary optics..... And yes ledil has a sphere. P.S. don't build a sphere Queen. Getting the light to the canopy is as important as generating it in the first place.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Those exceptions are going to be what separates the men from the boys as they say lol. I'm also talking about secondary optics..... And yes ledil has a sphere. P.S. don't build a sphere Queen. Getting the light to the canopy is as important as generating it in the first place.
I absolutely agree about getting it to the canopy, tighter/narrower primary optic options down the road will circumvent the need for a secondary lens though. Osram picked 80 degrees on their horti ssl chips for a reason:)

edit.....maybe I'm old school, but I always prefer to take the losses on a well designed reflector vs lens
 
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Stephenj37826

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I absolutely agree about getting it to the canopy, tighter/narrower primary optic options down the road will circumvent the need for a secondary lens though. Osram picked 80 degrees on their horti ssl chips for a reason:)

This is true unfortunately primary optics aren't quite as effective as secondary optics. Also I'm not quite sure of the transmitance but most bare board LEDs have glass or a plastic film over the diodes as they will not meet UL exposed of course.
 

guod

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Well I have been working closely with ledil and I can tell you with a certainty that 95+% can be achieved using lens. It really comes down to refractance
working closely with ledil and using the word "refractance" tells me a lot.
in optics we use the words "Refraction / refractive index"
 

PSUAGRO.

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This is true unfortunately primary optics aren't quite as effective as secondary optics. Also I'm not quite sure of the transmitance but most bare board LEDs have glass or a plastic film over the diodes as they will not meet UL exposed of course.
Samsung does..........or a conformal coating to meet ip specs isn't that hard
 

Stephenj37826

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I absolutely agree about getting it to the canopy, tighter/narrower primary optic options down the road will circumvent the need for a secondary lens though. Osram picked 80 degrees on their horti ssl chips for a reason:)

edit.....maybe I'm old school, but I always prefer to take the losses on a well designed reflector vs lens
That's what makes the world great we all have our own tastes.

working closely with ledil and using the word "refractance" tells me a lot.
in optics we use the words "Refraction / refractive index"
What's it tell you? That they don't have the heart to tell me different? I surely didn't start this thread to argue. As I've stated in the past I'm rather fond of my light. If anyone doesn't like the design that's understandable. To each his own. All I can tell you is don't buy it lol. All you guys should build the best light ever take it to market and put me under is all I can suggest.
 

PSUAGRO.

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That's what makes the world great we all have our own tastes.



What's it tell you? That they don't have the heart to tell me different? I surely didn't start this thread to argue. As I've stated in the past I'm rather fond of my light. If anyone doesn't like the design that's understandable. To each his own. All I can tell you is don't buy it lol. All you guys should build the best light ever take it to market and put me under is all I can suggest.
nah, I'm all talk............no extra funds or balls to enter the led grow light business, too competitive. Plus my gf/fiancé/whatever likes to keep me poor,lol
 

Growmau5

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@Stephenj37826 hey man, its cool to see some grow content from your lights. I know a lot of us have gone gray waiting for those HeavyT grow show guys to produce something...

Are you happy with your TLC200 pro time lapse camera. Ive had one in my amazon cart for months now, but spotty reviews and user feedback have kept me from pulling the trigger. Can it be setup to automatically omit the night periods? thanks man.
 

weed-whacker

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honestly these time-lapses r shit

your fps are waaaaay to low, seem like you have 2 pics a day and 3 sec per day (so like 1.5 fps) when it shoudl be more like 24 pics a day and 1 sec per day with the dark time edited out(24 fps),
that woudl be a movie of a plant flowering


@Growmau5

you can very easily edit out the night period on any time lapse cam before you compress it into a movie, if this particular model automatically makes the movie id stay away.

what you want is the photos so you can adjust color settings contrast ect, apply to all, delete night photos and choose a frames per second before you compress


at least imho
 
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