Jacks Cleaner Myth or Legend

mrs. clean is the pheno pictured on bidzbay ...there's another pheno that's lighter green, and more sativa looking...but not nearly as lemony.

Just recieved some clones of JC and #2.

I will be selecting a good female for SCROG and look forward to puting away my own stash of lovable Lemony Med's.

Thanks for the genetics Sub!

subcool said:

I still grow brother every day its my life and I grow my gear
I respect you a ton but Ed had the same argument.
There are plenty of watered down hermie prone feminized seeds around alot cheaper than mine.
Hopefully one day you will have the room and I can make sure you get some TGA gear to try without cost

Sub

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Got to respect that Sub. Someone has to be that guy making that stand to be the respnsible one. Sort of like recycling. I can only grow fems for my legal med rules but I constantly trying to figure out a way to run some of your plants to find a girl. No one lament it more than me but still got to hand it to ya.

I am confused. I am have been toking some wws and imbibing my medical opiates heavily today but I am still confused. Rofl. How is jacks cleaner two made? I mean, does it really say that it is made with jack the ripper but that jacl the ripper is made with jacks cleaner? Or is the jacks cleaner two that is made with jack the ripper somehow, and that I got confused in the backcross or that something was thrown in there for a good time? Lol, please help. I hope it is not to much trouble man to clear this up. As a laymen trying to read farther with my breeding dictionary right here I am thinking that there is a misprint or I am just HIGH!

The pics are insane and I am looking at some on a seeed site, the jacks cleaner two dreaming and saving to purchase.

Attitude would make this so much easier. It is so easy to pay by card! Rofl, I know you guys get this all the time!

I just ordered jack the ripper from hemp depot! I cant wait. Subcool what can I expect as far as nutes, likes dislikes. I am doing ffof soil, 1000 watt hps, co2, and the full line of fox farms nutes. Any advise would be most wecome.

i just spent all day hunting down some c99 seeds, and now you gotta go and do this! man o man, what sativa/dom sativa to grow next!?

To Create JC2 first we had to outcross the JC to Space Queen then we select a male with the traits we want and use him to BX the original mother JC f1.
Its a first level BX

the lighter colored 90% sativa pheno smells like exotic vanilla from mayaland! I forced half of the garden in early july, and the vanilla puddin' looks like a jamaican brain ripper. it's like a whole different strain from mrs. clean- which is in my all time top 5.

Sub, do you still frequent this page?
I got a clone of JC from a good friend in oregon. I dont want to go into to much detail over the forum. Can you pm me? I guess since your a mod i cant pm you...
I have a couple questions determining the reliability of his claim, lol.

How about a real heavy indica dominant strain...

SyKoKennDogg said:

Sub, do you still frequent this page?
I got a clone of JC from a good friend in oregon. I dont want to go into to much detail over the forum. Can you pm me? I guess since your a mod i cant pm you...
I have a couple questions determining the reliability of his claim, lol.

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I get a gazzillion Pms every week

s.c.mtn.hillbilly said:

the lighter colored 90% sativa pheno smells like exotic vanilla from mayaland! I forced half of the garden in early july, and the vanilla puddin' looks like a jamaican brain ripper. it's like a whole different strain from mrs. clean- which is in my all time top 5.

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that's 'cause it IS a whole different strain! it was a pheno of trainwreck...DUH!!!! anyway, my mrs. clean is on the back burner for now. I wouldn't part with her for the world! she basically shares the coveted# 1 with the vortex. vortex is trippy, but mrs. clean is the 'clean' high octane- clear headed I.Q.test weed....with anti gravity boots! I'm a lemonhead!!!!

Hey subcool been reading all your work and have changed my mind on a strain to grow. I have settled on Jacks Cleaner , Jack the ripper and some Chronic . The jacks cleaner has me very interested due to its abillity to help with pain. Can you start a thread on genetics ? I have bred reptiles and was hoping the genetics are similar for me to understand. I was wondering if i held back a jacks cleaner male and allowed it to pollenate a female will all the seeds be jacks cleaner ? Are there dominant and simple recessive traits and how can you know the difference ? It would be nice to be able to produce seeds for the following season . Really enjoy your work .

my personal take on genetics is derived from observations on snake, dog and human breeding. snake for the basics-like heterozygy-...dog for the exponential boom in variation within the last 1500 yrs...and human, to explain relationships- that lost aunt from 3 generations ago popping back up for example; or how siblings can carry latent(heterozygous) traits which show up in subsequent generations; or how 2 royal families(strains), or a royal and a rogue can produce so many variants...my ancestor was excomunicated from a certain family which until recently, owned the dow jones...all for shackin' up with an injun...well guess what! hybred vigor mutha'@%&$as'! HAH!

Well, I dunno wtf happened, but my postcount was reset, my threads and posts removed, then acct locked down, I couldn't post or anything... Does anyone know if RIU went through a server update or something? It has been a while since I've been on...
Anyway, my sn was sykokenndogg, and I was also known as The Ganj Father. I spent about a year off, and am getting back up and running.
The reason I'm shamelessly posting on this thread isn't for no reason. I actually just got a clone of the beautiful cleaner, and am working feverishly to fill my bloom room with them.
Sub, I do have some questions for you;
My close frient I picked this clone up from (who claims to be connected to you) says this is a 45 day bloomer. I just want to verify that #, because I'm an early window kind of smoker, and won't want it much past that. I do use the trichomes as my final decision maker. Its just nice to have a ballpark timeframe.
I'm currently using the canna line, its a line I swear by. I do know you're a pure organics grower, do you think the canna line is to chemically for the Cleaner (even though it is pretty organic).
What little tips tricks do you have for me for her, what little things does she like?
I'm running a temp controlled room, supplimenting co2, have around 90wpsf lighting in pure canna coco.
Your time is much appreciated!

Oh, and also, what type of yeild am I looking at?
3.5 weeks into flower and I'm impressed to say the least!
Sorry for all the questions, the specs are hard to find on this gem...

Shameless bump...

The 2 pheno's I grew out of the JCII seeds were not done til the 9th-10th week. That was by trc's being 20% or so amber. I took some of my Chernobyl's buds as tasters at 7 weeks and they had a great racing high but you def cut way back on yeild taking them that early.....

Sub, I do have some questions for you;
My close frient I picked this clone up from (who claims to be connected to you) says this is a 45 day bloomer.

That is very incorrect and leads me to believe the clone dod not come through my channels JC is a 58 day plant min and we like to see her go to 63 but JC mum spits naners at any stress and naturally after day 55 so you have to pluck em off.
All of her weight comes after day 50 BTW.
I have had people contact me with the f1 and say "hey I thought JC was a big yielder" and I say what day there like 6 weeks Im like call me next week and always the end story is mass yields of ultra lemon smoke

If shes really JC do not stress her and top her hard she stretches 3x in the first 3 weeks opf budding


Sub

Thanks for you input Sub!
I was concerened, because I'm about 13 days from 45 days, and all its done so far is produce MASS amounds of thc, along with many many bud sites.
It makes me feel a lot better to know that she's got a bit more time left in her.
I'm hoping this is an F1, the way you described it explains everything to the T.
Thanks again for your time!
My turn to share the love, gonna check out that gear

Sub,

Question: SCROG JC2 in the 4'L X 4'W X 6'H Tent or not.

I scrog everything.... Unless otherwise told better.
Reason for questioning the scrog is her 55 day cannabanana special. I have her in a combo of your super soil and mine, pots = to 10's, and LST'd to fill the surface area within the space. I guess more or less, if yes on scrog, when to trigger her given the stretch. Been down this road a time or two and breaders input could sure save me. All my meds are in two vegging JC's (my quality of life)