It's Ripper season folks..

MonkeyGrinder

MonkeyGrinder

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whitebb2727 said:
It easier to hide a bunch of little plants instead a few big ones.
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This is what I've been sticking to for the last few seasons.
The catch around 4 weeks of veg then hit flower. Snag the mains to take back and hang up.
I've got a nice squat single cola mom I ran this year. She's pushed out sexy hobbit dope plants.
The added bonuses include your summer is free for the most part. There's not the day to day worry of a disaster happening to them. Getting found etc.
Just push em out in numbers to make up for it. Don't waste time on monster bushes that are going to push out a good bit of larf on branches.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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I agree for outdoor, I prefer to grow from seed. I like the structure of a plant from seed, it's better balanced and I find them easier to work with especially when they get big. But living in a legal state, quality clones are easy to come by and they eliminate a lot of the variables... like this summer I just had where 6 of the 9 plants I put in the ground turned out to be boys. Recently I have run all seeds, but I'm looking forward to going back and picking up some clones this winter. It's a lot simpler, takes less space and time, and you are more likely to get what you think you're going to get.

As far as rippers go, they'll take them both.
 
CriticalCheeze

CriticalCheeze

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Humanrob said:
I agree for outdoor, I prefer to grow from seed. I like the structure of a plant from seed, it's better balanced and I find them easier to work with especially when they get big. But living in a legal state, quality clones are easy to come by and they eliminate a lot of the variables... like this summer I just had where 6 of the 9 plants I put in the ground turned out to be boys. Recently I have run all seeds, but I'm looking forward to going back and picking up some clones this winter. It's a lot simpler, takes less space and time, and you are more likely to get what you think you're going to get.

As far as rippers go, they'll take them both.
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Get quality seeds and pheno hunt for a mom for clones. Can't go wrong doing that
Rippers can go fuck themselves.
 
Cannabis.Queen

Cannabis.Queen

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Humanrob said:
I agree for outdoor, I prefer to grow from seed. I like the structure of a plant from seed, it's better balanced and I find them easier to work with especially when they get big. But living in a legal state, quality clones are easy to come by and they eliminate a lot of the variables... like this summer I just had where 6 of the 9 plants I put in the ground turned out to be boys. Recently I have run all seeds, but I'm looking forward to going back and picking up some clones this winter. It's a lot simpler, takes less space and time, and you are more likely to get what you think you're going to get.

As far as rippers go, they'll take them both.
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I've never had a male plant, only male pollen from my friends plant which I used to pollinate my ww last year. I only buy female seeds and even my regular seeds always gotten a fem lol

I do like taking a clone from my plants and having seeds made from them :)
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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the only real difference between a clone and a plant grown from seed is the tap root, a plant grown from seed puts down a long tap root, while a clone never does, just grows a big cloud of roots. this gives a plant from seed advantages outdoor, they can reach deeper for water in dry weather, and can stand up to wind and hard rain better
 
Sir Napsalot

Sir Napsalot

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the only real difference between a clone and a plant grown from seed is the tap root, a plant grown from seed puts down a long tap root, while a clone never does, just grows a big cloud of roots. this gives a plant from seed advantages outdoor, they can reach deeper for water in dry weather, and can stand up to wind and hard rain better
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From what I've observed the structure of the plant itself is different, with the clones' branching being asymmetrical and sort of spiral rather than having complementary branches.
 
potroastV2

potroastV2

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the only real difference between a clone and a plant grown from seed is the tap root, a plant grown from seed puts down a long tap root, while a clone never does, just grows a big cloud of roots. this gives a plant from seed advantages outdoor, they can reach deeper for water in dry weather, and can stand up to wind and hard rain better
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That's all true, and a seed plant grows with more vitality. A seed plant exhibits what is called Hybrid Vigor, and a clone does not.

A clone that is taken from a seed plant may also have vigor, I'm not certain about that though.

:mrgreen:
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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Cannabis.Queen said:
I've germinated seed 33 years old before so I'm sure they could be :)
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for real? thats awesome to hear.there was a dude on here over the winter that had hundreds of seeds from the 80's that would not open.did you have a strain name or just a random?im fascinated with old seeds.
too larry said:
In 2015 and again in 2016 I used seeds made in 1988. All my Jack Carlos Cross crosses are from those seeds.
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what was your germination rate,larry? did you have to start a lot?very cool
 
Cannabis.Queen

Cannabis.Queen

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natureboygrower said:
for real? thats awesome to hear.there was a dude on here over the winter that had hundreds of seeds from the 80's that would not open.did you have a strain name or just a random?im fascinated with old seeds.

what was your germination rate,larry? did you have to start a lot?very cool
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I'm the strain was unknown but I soaked it for 36 hours in tap water then paper towel method her ass lol

I have a seed from papa that is about 10 years old I might germinate lol
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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rollitup said:
That's all true, and a seed plant grows with more vitality. A seed plant exhibits what is called Hybrid Vigor, and a clone does not.

A clone that is taken from a seed plant may also have vigor, I'm not certain about that though.

:mrgreen:
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Usually the clone will exhibit the same vigor as the mother. To a degree. It may not have as much vigor.

The vigor mainly comes from crossing two new strains or species.

As you cross or back cross for stability the vigor is diminished over generations.

One of the slowest growing plants I had was a very stable ibl landrace Hawaiian skunk haze. It hated topping and worm take weeks to start growing again.

I do agree with seed usually being better suited for outdoors because if the tap root being able to go deeper for water.
 
too larry

too larry

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natureboygrower said:
for real? thats awesome to hear.there was a dude on here over the winter that had hundreds of seeds from the 80's that would not open.did you have a strain name or just a random?im fascinated with old seeds.

what was your germination rate,larry? did you have to start a lot?very cool
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It was pretty good, but I don;t have an exact %. I put 30'ish seeds in a tray and got 20 odd sprouts the first year. Next year the germination rate was better before I washed and dried the remaining seeds. {I still haven't told the BIL (it was his seeds} that I did that} The seeds had been in a bag of shake in a freezer all those years.
 
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