It's A Fuct World

RavenMochi

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Then how did you prove that RO is NOT necessary? That's a negative. More, not just for your Austrailian municiple water sources, but for every municipality in every state in the US? Perhaps your information is correct world-wide?

How about a side by side? Any Los Angeles growers want to experiment with an RO plant and a tap water plant side by side to see which one does better?
Well, why don't you. Your a very capable grower, and you have every other variable worked out, your as good as any to do such a thing. If he's wrong, the proof will be in the pudding.
So you're giving me a life lesson on the moral shortcomings of retail operations? Maybe you should try patronizing a first time grower instead of me. What? Everything they have on the shelves at my hydro store is not absolutely essential? My, my thanks for letting me in on that.

I'll admit that when you admit your information isn't perfect.
This is his thread, Jin, who's patronizing who? I'm sure reading his advice came off as insulting, your a snob with your methods, not necessarily a bad thing, its given you excellent results, but you know you are. You let it hit your ego, don't. If you want to prove him wrong based on what you see from your filters, a simple side by side done 12/12 from seed or clone from a short flowering indica will give you the quickest results. But since this little back and forth has started not nearly as many questions are being answered. You could start your own such thread in Aero, it is your specialty after all. :)
In conclusion, nice pic, she's a new one. :p
 

lordjin

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Well, why don't you. Your a very capable grower, and you have every other variable worked out, your as good as any to do such a thing. If he's wrong, the proof will be in the pudding.

This is his thread, Jin, who's patronizing who? I'm sure reading his advice came off as insulting, your a snob with your methods, not necessarily a bad thing, its given you excellent results, but you know you are. You let it hit your ego, don't. If you want to prove him wrong based on what you see from your filters, a simple side by side done 12/12 from seed or clone from a short flowering indica will give you the quickest results. But since this little back and forth has started not nearly as many questions are being answered. You could start your own such thread in Aero, it is your specialty after all. :)
In conclusion, nice pic, she's a new one. :p
Alright, message received. But this information is posted here as if it's gospel. All I'm saying is that no matter how long we've been growing, or how much we think we know, there are no absolutes. I don't claim to know everything. He does. So why is it such a sin to question that? Especially when someone starts such an elaborate 'educational' thread with, " a few folks have been drinking FarkingClueless™ by the megalitre."

He seems to think that his information is absolutely correct without any question. Does RIU feel the same?

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And since he's the one claiming absolute correctness without any proof by example, shouldn't he have to convince us?

I have a beginner in another thread who is trying to germ Attitude seeds in rockwool. He did everything as I would have done it and his seedlings died... everything EXCEPT the RO water. So he's now removing that last variable and trying again. This could serve as a test of sorts.
 

RavenMochi

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Not really, think of it this way. People come here knowing this info is according to him. Its their responsibility to do homework on the advice they get. If he was going thread to thread, that would be a different matter, but as far as I can tell, he only answers questions here.
Not to mention that would require a MASSIVE operational grow to test all waters in every municipality. He's proven it in his area solidly. Being in Australia, I can't even think of what he would have to do to get LA tap water, especially enough for a full grow. You on the other hand have both. Seriously, do the side by side, hell, I'd keep up with it, fucking love side by sides. :)
Hell, I might do a side by side, about to start my first hydro grow, I'll try one side RO and one side tap. But that will only give proof for SA, TX (though our water is fucking cloudy and takes a bit to clear up, so I figure its as good a place to test as any :p )
 

lordjin

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Not really, think of it this way. People come here knowing this info is according to him. Its their responsibility to do homework on the advice they get. If he was going thread to thread, that would be a different matter, but as far as I can tell, he only answers questions here.
Not to mention that would require a MASSIVE operational grow to test all waters in every municipality. He's proven it in his area solidly. Being in Australia, I can't even think of what he would have to do to get LA tap water, especially enough for a full grow. You on the other hand have both. Seriously, do the side by side, hell, I'd keep up with it, fucking love side by sides. :)
Hell, I might do a side by side, about to start my first hydro grow, I'll try one side RO and one side tap. But that will only give proof for SA, TX (though our water is fucking cloudy and takes a bit to clear up, so I figure its as good a place to test as any :p )
I like you, Raven. So I'll do as I'm told if you're the one telling me. Peace.

And yeah, I'll do that side by side. Not as a big "I told you so" to this thread starter, because I'd be happy to prove him right as well.
 

RavenMochi

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I like you, Raven. So I'll do as I'm told if you're the one telling me. Peace.

And yeah, I'll do that side by side. Not as a big "I told you so" to this thread starter, because I'd be happy to prove him right as well.
As always, I appreciate it. :)
And pm me when you start it, I'll be subbed.
 

trichome fiend

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...I used RO until the time came to change the filters....then started tap, the only noticable difference wasn't my plants, it was the pH needed adjusted. The pH typically falls right into place with RO water....but I'm with Al, I've grown in several different locations with tap water....still growin, tap isn't a problem in hydro.
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
I lived in Cali for only 6 months but that was long enough to convince me that the water there is barely drinkable. We even had arsenic and uranium in our muni water!!! No shit, we didn't even have to have night lights, LOL. Why anyone would use super-filtered water for plants is beyond me; it just does not make sense.
 

Shwagbag

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I lived in Cali for only 6 months but that was long enough to convince me that the water there is barely drinkable. We even had arsenic and uranium in our muni water!!! No shit, we didn't even have to have night lights, LOL. Why anyone would use super-filtered water for plants is beyond me; it just does not make sense.
I'm pretty thankful for my well water no doubt!
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hey, it's all good. I have no doubt he's helped many... and I'm not being sarcastic in any way when I say that.
After nearly 800,000 reads of my threads on RIU alone, that's a fair guess.

I lived in Cali for only 6 months but that was long enough to convince me that the water there is barely drinkable. We even had arsenic and uranium in our muni water!!! No shit, we didn't even have to have night lights, LOL. Why anyone would use super-filtered water for plants is beyond me; it just does not make sense.
Arsenic occurs in small quantities naturally in some fruits, notably apples. I'd not be surprised to find traces of all manner of minerals, inclusive of uranium, in tapwater, but the keyword there is 'traces.' The amounts of minerals like arsenic & uranium tolerable in drinking water would be measured in parts per billion- vanishingly small and as such harmless.

I'm pretty thankful for my well water no doubt!
As long as you have a water treatment system of the calibre used by most 1st world cities- sure, rock that well water. If not, have it tested periodically by your county extension agent or state university- they may do it for free. This is especially recommended if you have any mining or coal seam gas extraction happening near the aquifer that supplies your bore.
 

william69er

Active Member
Hay al.b
um don't want to nag but like I mentioned in my last post I have spider mite and want to get some preditor mites to get rid of them.last resort would be co2 but that's a while off yet.I thort I read some were you sprayed neem every two weeks for Powdery mildew before you had the sulfa burner.what would you recomend to get rid of them or at least controlling them?
Cheers William.
 

JimmyRecard

Active Member
Al I thought you had left? I have never spoken to you before but I live to learn from your wisdom. Nah but really I am amazed that a fine aussie like ya self knows so much :) maybe not amazed but proud fo sure.
 

Tran Dinh

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i didnt know Al was visiting Hi Al! respect.
Ill catch up on some reading.
I got a question Al, hows the sweet tooth treating you? Theres been quiet a resurgence of sweet tooth and #4 was recentley rre-eleased, albeit by a community member saving old SOL stock. Do you find it anti anxiety herb Al, and hows the flavour?
cheers mate.
 

trichome fiend

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Hay al.b
um don't want to nag but like I mentioned in my last post I have spider mite and want to get some preditor mites to get rid of them.last resort would be co2 but that's a while off yet.I thort I read some were you sprayed neem every two weeks for Powdery mildew before you had the sulfa burner.what would you recomend to get rid of them or at least controlling them?
Cheers William.
...google, "Azamax"
...and get some lady bugs, if possible....they sell them frozen at my hydro shop spot.
 
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