Issues with my Super Silver Haze

So I'm totally new to growing and having an issue with my super silver haze. The info on it is as follows:

4 1000k HPS for lighting
six total plants each in 25 gallon smart pots
soil is 2 parts ocean forest 1 part happy frog and 20% coarse vermiculite
plants are in late veg (actually just flipped today 5/25/2013)
lights are roughly 24"-30" from top of plants
I use Canna products (rhizotonic, bio boost, vega, and flores)
Water every 6-8 days with the third watering just normal water.
Humidity is 30-50%
Temp is 81-70 F
I wait until my plants droop slightly telling me that they need water. That way my soil has time to receive air.
Constant circulation
Use CO2 once an evening for about 10-15 min.
A Can filter hooked up to an 8" fan that is good for 744 cfm with another booster 8" fan that is good for 730 cfm that runs through all of the lights and out the roof of my house.

As this is my first grow ever, I'm still getting the gist of what nutes my plants need when. So, at first I was to believe that they needed Calmag. So, my nute solution was 6 ml of Calmag + 2 ml rhizotonic per gallon. I did that twice in 16 days and noticed a good change. Then tonight, since I just started to flower, I mixed a solution of 2 ml Calmag + 4 ml micro nutrients + 2 ml rhizotonic + 7 ml flores + 4 ml vega per gallon. My pH is between 6.35 and 6.45 and my TDS meter reads between 460 ppm (for the first sequences of watering) and 630 ppm (for the second solution). Water temp is a little chilly at around 59 F but all in all I think everything should be fine, however.

I keep losing about 3 - 15 leaves a night. Usually bigger fan leaves. It is never new growth that is dying. The leaves are mixed in with the others sometimes and other times they are on the bottom. Usually, the leaf begins to turn slightly yellow, then have some dead spots at the tip and edges. Then the tips continue to turn brown and eventually the whole leaf dies. The leave tips usually turn upwards but sometimes they turn to the side.

I have trimmed the inside vegetation as well as some of the lower puny branches to increase air flow and to focus the growth to my main colas.

This is the problem my plants are having from the first sign until it is dead and withered away. Please help if you can!

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NietzscheKeen

Well-Known Member
Looks like you're over feeding it. At least that is my analysis. You might should flush them and the back off for a while. Are you feeding them everytime you water? Are you supposed to use all of those products together?
Does it start at the edges and then spread through the whole leaf?
The leaves also turn a dark color and a soft or crispy?
 
Looks like you're over feeding it. At least that is my analysis. You might should flush them and the back off for a while. Are you feeding them everytime you water? Are you supposed to use all of those products together?
Does it start at the edges and then spread through the whole leaf?
The leaves also turn a dark color and a soft or crispy?
Yeah man, they get crispy. And blackish. I was gonna just do a normal water with 2ml of Calmag just to "dirty" the water since I use a tall boy to filter it. However, I went to the local "garden shop" and they told me to use the calmag, and do half solns of vega (for N) and flores (for phosphorus) since I was flipping. And to not worry about it at the moment. I kept thinking I was either adding too many nutes or there was a phosphorus problem. Only thing is I was led to believe phosphorus is seen primarily in new growth and this is all old.

Also, the products I use are organic soups with extremely low N-P-K values. For instance vega is like 5-1-3 and flores is 3-2-5. Nothing like fox farms where those values are extremely high. I appreciate your feedback man.
 

*BUDS

Well-Known Member
I wait until my plants droop slightly telling me that they need water. That way my soil has time to receive air
. It sounds like moisture stress, your letting the pot dry too much creating air pockets and salty soil. The dryer you let the soil get the more salts build up. The perlite is giving the roots enough air.
 
. It sounds like moisture stress, your letting the pot dry too much creating air pockets and salty soil. The dryer you let the soil get the more salts build up. The perlite is giving the roots enough air.
I don't know man, I don't let them wilt by any means. The leaves just go from straight out to more so facing the edges of the pot. Never the ground if that makes any sense lol.
 

Stoneyboi93

New Member
Hey all, I have a super silver I believe as well that has done nothing but throw me fits since going into flower. I Will post some pics up here in a little bit. I currently use a mixture of synthetic and organic nutes when I feed. Between feedings I will use calmag and recharge. I am in soil atm. Also encountered some fungus gnats lately as well. But not too bad. Got neem oil and added it to my last feeding with everything else. But my plant just still seems unhappy. Any help/advise at this phase would be SO much appreciated!
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Hey all, I have a super silver I believe as well that has done nothing but throw me fits since going into flower. I Will post some pics up here in a little bit. I currently use a mixture of synthetic and organic nutes when I feed. Between feedings I will use calmag and recharge. I am in soil atm. Also encountered some fungus gnats lately as well. But not too bad. Got neem oil and added it to my last feeding with everything else. But my plant just still seems unhappy. Any help/advise at this phase would be SO much appreciated!
Post your own thread with pictures in normal light and the rest of the grow details. In detail.
 
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