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neved

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most issues contributing to yelowing is A - either to much watering B - fluctuations in the ph that locks out certain nutrient elements , and C Nitrogen

with most flowering nutrients they all carry Nitrogen like 6 - 0 - 3 and 1 - 4 - 8 thats most flowering A and B solutions
what most growers seem to forget that adding suplimental additives like Supermax B1 and calmag into there flowering schedule
all my plants finish Green and massive yields buy adding them additives PH is very important you strt adding to much nitrogen then then other nutrient molecules change causeing defiencies heres my grow day 34 and i will show you other grows all green i chop GREEN plants at 8 weeks some people may say its normal for leafs to yellow there dead wrong its Green till harvest is the ticket to a great harvest
I now the height of plants is very important .
I had bad mistake on my second group of plants and some of them are shit tall.
But In my new seeding and now in my veg I corrected any prb of that but in the first I c the sign of mag def ....I just confused about that ....
Best wishes
 

bekindbud

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Plasma/LED's have their place, with their current technology level, as supplemental lighting at best. Significantly less heat and electricity, but significantly less Lux. Not to mention the cost. Sure they use less electricity and don't require cooling, but look at the startup costs. Most of the plasma/led grows and threads on here peter out and you never see the results because the LED is scrapped during flower. Plasma really shows promise, especially with its UV spectrum, but just like HDTV's, it's going to be a few years before it is viable and even longer before the costs come down. So HID's are the present king of the grow room only matched by the sun. Happy growing.
I think CMH bulbs are closer to being the sun than anything out there....ever look into them?
 

SmoochieBoochies

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I have given them thought and research but have not seen many results. I like the spectrum, but I have too many mh/hps bulbs on the shelf to go out and try these at $60 a pop. Have you tried them and do you see the improved results phillips claims?

I think CMH bulbs are closer to being the sun than anything out there....ever look into them?
 

bekindbud

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I have given them thought and research but have not seen many results. I like the spectrum, but I have too many mh/hps bulbs on the shelf to go out and try these at $60 a pop. Have you tried them and do you see the improved results phillips claims?
No I just read the rant and rave about them...I have seen charts and stuff but I cant get my hands on a Magnetic Ballast to run one. I am going to get one when the funds become available. LOL
 

neved

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:leaf:Today I use some MgSou7H2o nut + some nut for african Violet + my flowering nut (12-12-36 + micro nuts) and ph around 5.70 and ppm 1670(second group 1220) I c my plants after 20 min are really the leafs go up and I think its seemed they are get good...
:leaf:So tomorrow automatic drip system will water them (first group ppm around 1560 and ph 5.70) I checked my calender and c my ph level run off in 2 weeks only get high and then i corrected it for tomorrow.That cause the plants needed higher ppm in those ages and i watered them in first a days always (when the light were on about 1 hour) with lower ppm like (880-1000) and then before 3-4 hours to off my light I watered them with highest ppm like (1200-1300) so I think they need much nuts so ....
:idea::idea::idea::wall:ONe another prb i found that maybe my pots not have enough space for roots also !!!
U can check previews pics that show all my system and make an opinion .. .
Best wishes
Any issue appreciated:hug::hug::hug:....
 

MidnightJoker

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Hey Neved,

I still think you have a cal/mag deficiency but may be it's Nitrogen. Can't be sure, so keep feeding with the cal/mag solution. Your plants look great, almost done now!!! How big are your pots?
 

MidnightJoker

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Neved,

Remember, the last 10 days of your flowering cycle, don't feed the plants anymore nutrients. Only give them water.

It's too late now to change the pots on the plants that are in the flowering cycle. You will have to grow them in the pots they are in. If your pots are less than 11L in vegetation, change them to 11L as a minimum or a general guideline for Indica dom plants. 19L for Sativa dom plants.

Good luck.
MJ
 

knourgro

Active Member
Neved,

Remember, the last 10 days of your flowering cycle, don't feed the plants anymore nutrients. Only give them water.

It's too late now to change the pots on the plants that are in the flowering cycle. You will have to grow them in the pots they are in. If your pots are less than 11L in vegetation, change them to 11L as a minimum or a general guideline for Indica dom plants. 19L for Sativa dom plants.

Good luck.
MJ
where did you get that baseline? just wondering, i seem to have root bound issues on every crop but only half of them?? idk what causes this, but maybe its because of strain difference. id really like to see where you got that info, thanks man
 

MidnightJoker

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Sativa doms grow larger and generally stay longer in a pot due to the extra time spent in flowering. The Sativa dom can also grow 2x-3x larger than an Indica on average. If you follow the 3gal for an Indica dom and 5gal for a Sativa dom, or you could just play it safe and use a 5gal for all your grows. Beyond 5gal and you are just wasting your money unless you plan on using a plant as a Mother and to keep it in a state of veg for a period of time.
 

neved

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Hey dude...
Yesterday I searched more and find only one grow nut that have Ca nuts in it ....
I found "Grow more 20-20-20 + micro ) that only nuts with micro have (Cal) ...
So I put around 1250 ppm {1/4(20-20-20+micro) + 3/4 (flowering nut 12-12-36+micro)
this level of ppm for my second groups of plants in flowering room but I watered first group as same ....
I watered them when the light was on about 8 hours and feed them by that mixed nut ...
I c my plants leafs are going up and REALLY plants look like awesome and healthier than before
I didnt find any cal/mag solution but I find it yesterday and I will change nuts by that so....
Today auto water system will watered them with that ppm around 1170 (both group)
Best wishes all
 

neved

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Today I worried about them for that I have too work in my company And I dont c them today until night time ... SO I promise to save my ladies alive....
I will change my water solution ( 12-12-36+micro nut + Cal/mag that i bought today ) and I will put ppm around 1200 ...
My water ppm around 280-300 ....I have a big question that how many ppm of Cal/Mag I must add to my water with my flowering nuts....
Wish all the best
 

neved

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Neved,

Remember, the last 10 days of your flowering cycle, don't feed the plants anymore nutrients. Only give them water.

It's too late now to change the pots on the plants that are in the flowering cycle. You will have to grow them in the pots they are in. If your pots are less than 11L in vegetation, change them to 11L as a minimum or a general guideline for Indica dom plants. 19L for Sativa dom plants.

Good luck.
MJ
Hey bro
I have to say thank u very very much for your helps as I started growing .
I wrote a comment that I did yesterday. u can check by previous send reply by me.
I dont know my pot size but I think its around 3 litter .... I dont want to change their place right now...
I think i have about 1 or 2 weeks for harvest time ...So in that case what I should do ? I dont have any exp in this situation ....
I know at the end of flowering i should decrease my nuts but EXACTLY WHEN I SHOULD DO THAT ?
Now I watering my first group of flowering plants one at start light on at 1200 ppm and second watering in high level ppm around 1600-1700 in a middle of a day ....
But yesterday I c my plants were going wrong by mag def and cal def and some N def ....SO i did some changes that I wrote in previous massages And made a ppm to 1200-1180 for that reason(changed veg nut and add some to my flowering nuts) ....
After 10-20 min I c my plants leafs are going up ..... I was very glad to c them They were more healthier than 2 weeks ago ....
I think I do some unwise ?
What do u decide to do ?
Best wishes
 

neved

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Hey dudes ...
Si i have fcking shit wrong with my watering timer and put it in random mode by mistake :-((((((
I got there at night whem my system always turn off around 2 hours
I heard a bit sound of my waterpomp and ran and turn off fckng timer .
So i turn on room light and c nothing get wrong with plants and everythings ok
I checked my run off warer ( drip to my local water) and c the ph 5.73 and ppm 1630 .
I put ppm around 1250 and ph 5.73 yesterday.
Only ppm got high and my highest ppm level was 1750 .
So i took some pics of them in this situation i will attach tomorrow and
I wonder all my plants expect one of them that had very hard cal/mag def are okey and healthier .
So i changed my solution to cal+mag + 12-12-36 + micro nut in 1100 ppm
 

neved

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I took some pics yesterday night so .... the first pics about the plants that I think totally wrong ...
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max316420

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they really don't look too bad, just remember next grow to start supplementing with calmag as soon as your lights flip and I promise you that you'll never run into this problem again.. If this is your first grow then I would say your right on track, don't over think things... Remember that def's won't clear up overnite and usually take a while to show improvement and that's what you want to prevent them in the future so your not wasting all your time trying to fix them when your plants should be gaining weight like a fat bitch that just quit jenny craig...
 

neved

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Hey Dudes...
Finally I found and bought cal / mag and read it's information that it can cure the cal/mag def (desalin cm from green company )so 2 days ago I changed my water
and added 330 ppm of cal/mag and 600 ppm my flowering nut (12-12-36+micro nuts) so because of my latest watering that ppm is higher about 300 ppm and it could be solved to
my water about that growing nut added (20-20-20 micro ) so yesterday i found my ppm up around 100 ppm ...I c they are now curing TNX ANY ONE ....
So I put some pics and I dont know exactly when time to run lower ppm on them (first group) before flush !?!??!
PLZ CHECK MY LADIES
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neved

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Hey
So bad news...
2 days ago i put my 2 fans that located under my plants on middle blowing mode so before they turn into high mode.
So my fckin tempture meter had no battry then i saw yesterday a little but todays many brown spots on my top leafs and in the end of the day i knew my temp in day gone wrong .
So some leafs show that fcking heat stress show i put my fans in high mode for tommow.
Is heat stress damage my ladies ????!!!!! I got some pics but i had not good feeling right now.:-((((((
I want to cry cause of fckin mistake i did
best wishes
 
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