Is this from overwatering?

Dgirl666

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They seem to be growing ok but have some yellowing going on , is it from overwatering? I have them in a closet with the temp of 73-75 with a fan running. The pump kicks on every 15 mins of each hour. The light is about 12 inches from to tops of the plants. Oh and we are using fox farm hydro for nutes. its been about 8 days since we started the nutes and water.
:idea: Any ideas would be heplful.
heres some pics.

See how some are yellow and some look good. why?
 

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rdecosta88

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ya those look a little over watered... i think the pump coming on 15 minutes every hour might be a little much especially with rockwool. rockwool holds alot of water so u might space out the watering. the yellowing could be nute lockout. I have an E&b setup, and i am using hydroton pebbles. i have my timer for my pumps set for every 6 hours. like so:

i am in flower right now but my flood & draining doesing change

light on 6am
6am flood 6:15 drain
12pm flood 12:15 drain
6pm light off
6pm flood 6:15 drain
12am flood 12:15 drain
and so on...

Does this help any?
 

Dgirl666

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ya those look a little over watered... i think the pump coming on 15 minutes every hour might be a little much especially with rockwool. rockwool holds alot of water so u might space out the watering. the yellowing could be nute lockout. I have an E&b setup, and i am using hydroton pebbles. i have my timer for my pumps set for every 6 hours. like so:

i am in flower right now but my flood & draining doesing change

light on 6am
6am flood 6:15 drain
12pm flood 12:15 drain
6pm light off
6pm flood 6:15 drain
12am flood 12:15 drain
and so on...

Does this help any?
Will that put a shock on them if they go without water for 6 hours, after having the almost constent flow for so long?
 

growingwild

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Will that put a shock on them if they go without water for 6 hours, after having the almost constent flow for so long?
no it won`t put them in shock. I been using rockwool 4ever,in 4+4 cubes i water every other day,i run nutes 1 week the next week tap water.so every other week they get nutes and don`t let the ppm`s go over 800,i like to stay around 700.so to me they are gettin over watered.try the every other week thing you might like it.mine love it:weed:
 
definitely overwatering w/ rockwool. drooping of leaves. might want to add a tsp of epson salt/ gallon to cure the yellowing. i would never suggest watering during lights off. twice a day for rockwool is plenty....
 

mjh0817

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Ph levels? overwatering with rockwool, watering during lights off and I can't tell even if these are potted/set-up. 2x daily maybe three for watering, if you love mold just keep watering but if you wanna save em quit watering during lights off.
 

Dgirl666

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Ps love the fox farm good chioce

Good advise from everyone and i appreciate it. I have been checking the ph keeping it at about 6.2 or so( not sure how to figure ppm's.) we have about 10 gallons of water in the reservoir at all time and are changing the water once weekly. I could use some help with ppm's by the way. Do you think the Epsom salt will work or should I just wait it out they seem to be turning green in just one day. They are rooted by the way I checked today and the roots are not brown they seem healthy!!!
 

Silky Shagsalot

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Good advise from everyone and i appreciate it. I have been checking the ph keeping it at about 6.2 or so( not sure how to figure ppm's.) we have about 10 gallons of water in the reservoir at all time and are changing the water once weekly. I could use some help with ppm's by the way. Do you think the Epsom salt will work or should I just wait it out they seem to be turning green in just one day. They are rooted by the way I checked today and the roots are not brown they seem healthy!!!
you're hydro, so a better ph for you would be 5.8. the yellowing is prob because you're feed is too light. that's why you need a meter to set it. forget epsom salt, that's for a mag def. i suggest a bigger rez and a ppm meter. once they get bigger and are eating more, you're gonna really see your ph start swinging.
 

Dgirl666

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The reservoir is a 20 gallon, I'm just only filling it only half way. How much is the ppm meter gonna cost me? Feed too light??? I'm using what the bottle says 2 teaspoons per gallon of water, should I go to 3 teaspoons I was afraid I would burn them with too much... I really do appreciate all the good advise!!!
 

Silky Shagsalot

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The reservoir is a 20 gallon, I'm just only filling it only half way. How much is the ppm meter gonna cost me? Feed too light??? I'm using what the bottle says 2 teaspoons per gallon of water, should I go to 3 teaspoons I was afraid I would burn them with too much... I really do appreciate all the good advise!!!
if your ph is constantly unstable, try putting another 5 gallons in the rez. if your plants are looking a bit hungry, increase feed strength by 1/4. you'll find out pretty quick if that's the cause. that's what i like about hydro, things happen quickly. you just have to be sure to keep up with them. so if you're using 2 tsp. per gallon, use 2 1/2 tsp. a ppm meter is fairly cheap. i get most of my stuff on e-bay.
 

rdecosta88

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Will that put a shock on them if they go without water for 6 hours, after having the almost constent flow for so long?
no it doesnt shock em at all. the schedule i have works really well ive found so far. I have my ppm at 1200, ph stays between 5.5 and 6.5, room temps when lights off 68-70 - lights on 75-77 the humidity 40-45%. and im using a 400w mh/hps. Things are going pretty good so far. I hope to have the ppm up to 2000 by mid flower. then it will be at full strength and hopefully some really tight nugs!!!
But ya man just watch the plants like everyone says! they will tell you what they want!
 

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growingwild

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you def. need a ppm meter you can`t always go by what the bottle saying you can pick up acheap one @ hydro shop or like another member said on ebay.but the ones on ebay don`t always come calabrated the grow shop in my town does it for you when you buy it.me my self i like the oakton they are water proof i went throw 3 of the cheap ones.they don`t float 2 good LOL.
 

Jonus

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Until the roots are coming out the bottom of those rockwool cubes they will only need flooding every other day. Once the roots come out then you can up that to once a day. The other point is how are the roots going to grow out the bottom of those cubes?
 

Dgirl666

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Until the roots are coming out the bottom of those rockwool cubes they will only need flooding every other day. Once the roots come out then you can up that to once a day. The other point is how are the roots going to grow out the bottom of those cubes?
Hey everyone thanks for the good advise. My plants are doing well. They are about 6 to 7 inches tall now and I was thinking of sending them into flower stage... The ppm's is holding steady at 1500 and the ph is fluctuating at between 6.2 and 6.7. How long after I start the flower process will it be till I can harvest? Also should I raise the lights or stay at about 12 inches from the top of the plants?
 

Peter421

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Hey everyone thanks for the good advise. My plants are doing well. They are about 6 to 7 inches tall now and I was thinking of sending them into flower stage... The ppm's is holding steady at 1500 and the ph is fluctuating at between 6.2 and 6.7. How long after I start the flower process will it be till I can harvest? Also should I raise the lights or stay at about 12 inches from the top of the plants?
Depends on strain. Indicas can take up to 810 weeks where some Sativas can take 7-9 weeks to mature. If you could, low the Ph a little and maybe lower the PPM but I'm not too sure. 1500 seems a lot for seedlings. I use just a little less than that for flowering right now. As for the lights, a foot away is good as long as your hood is glass protected
 
you never want to water when the lights are off. During the dark period whether its in veg or flower, the roots become more active and also uptake oxygen. This can also lead to bacteria forming. Water before lights out and when they come back on
 
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