Is there any organic veg boosters

Greenthumbs256

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Hey guys I'm looking to see if there is any organic veg boosters NOT STUFF SOLD IN A BOTTLE! I'm looking more for maybe a special tea or maybe a good top dressing amendment anything good to use around a week or 2 before switching to flower
 

Greenthumbs256

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alfalfa and kelp tea is good for a veg boost. coconut water is good as well (cytokinins), and aloe too.
Im doing a alfalfa amd kelp right now be ready tomorrow but ive had coconut and aloe powder 200x in my cart for over a month bit its like 50 bucks and I havent really seen a need for it! Ive seen everyone using it but my plants couldnt be much better! Is there a reason behind coconut and aloe?
 

ShLUbY

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Im doing a alfalfa amd kelp right now be ready tomorrow but ive had coconut and aloe powder 200x in my cart for over a month bit its like 50 bucks and I havent really seen a need for it! Ive seen everyone using it but my plants couldnt be much better! Is there a reason behind coconut and aloe?
don't buy the powders, they don't last nearly long enough. if you do buy one of the powders, get the coconut (it lasts longer), and go and buy a couple aloe plants.

coconut, as a mentioned, has cytokinins in it, which promote meristem growth and I think is a good trick to use in the first couple weeks of flower to help short/stocky plants that don't stretch up a lot put out that extra growth spurt. it also has potassium in it as well for bloom. ideally, you want the coconut water right from the coconut as it will be in its more natural form. if that's not available, i just buy a bottle of coconut water beverage (make sure it's only coconut water on ingredients list) and use that at 1/4c per gallon. of course, buy one for yourself too!

aloe is just all around awesome. full of enzymes, acts as a wetting agent helping soils absorb water better, and also has salicylic acid and in light doses (2 tbsp per gallon max of the clear pulp) helps induce flowering in plants. I've seen aloe make my plants pray so hard the leaves were practically vertical. I think it's important to not overdo the aloe dosage though, now that I have a shit ton of it i started just grabbing and mashing and overdoing it and i haven't been seeing the praying effect as much, i think it has to do with dosage. less is more as usual ;) . Oh yeah aloe is used as a cloning agent too (the salicylic acid) and works great! i'm sure you knew that already...
 

Wetdog

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^^^ THAT ^^^

Once again, ShLUbY saves me a bunch of typing since I would have said nearly the exact same thing.

For sure, forget the powders. They usually end up clumping up and becoming useless way before running out and just become a very expensive lesson.

What works well for me is the gallon of pure aloe juice from Walmart that cost a whopping $6.50 and @1/4cup/gallon lasts a good long while. A plant is even better, but the gallon is good while it's growing out if you go that route.

Totally right about the over use and the less is more aspect. Too much of a good thing is still too much. I mainly use it for the initial wetting of fresh peat based mixes and perhaps once in a grow when the top dressings and VC get a bit crusty. It's far from being a regular thing.

No experience with the coconut water, just too expensive for my income.

Wet
 

Greenthumbs256

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don't buy the powders, they don't last nearly long enough. if you do buy one of the powders, get the coconut (it lasts longer), and go and buy a couple aloe plants.

coconut, as a mentioned, has cytokinins in it, which promote meristem growth and I think is a good trick to use in the first couple weeks of flower to help short/stocky plants that don't stretch up a lot put out that extra growth spurt. it also has potassium in it as well for bloom. ideally, you want the coconut water right from the coconut as it will be in its more natural form. if that's not available, i just buy a bottle of coconut water beverage (make sure it's only coconut water on ingredients list) and use that at 1/4c per gallon. of course, buy one for yourself too!

aloe is just all around awesome. full of enzymes, acts as a wetting agent helping soils absorb water better, and also has salicylic acid and in light doses (2 tbsp per gallon max of the clear pulp) helps induce flowering in plants. I've seen aloe make my plants pray so hard the leaves were practically vertical. I think it's important to not overdo the aloe dosage though, now that I have a shit ton of it i started just grabbing and mashing and overdoing it and i haven't been seeing the praying effect as much, i think it has to do with dosage. less is more as usual ;) . Oh yeah aloe is used as a cloning agent too (the salicylic acid) and works great! i'm sure you knew that already...
I grabbed 2 bottles of this what do you think???
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ShLUbY

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I also got 2 brand new aloe plants their small but they will grow!
nice work man! coconut water looks good to me! 1/4c per gallon, good for stocky, slow vegging plants, and good for just a couple applications in the first 4 weeks of flower.... just make sure when you open one, if you need to save it for later, freeze it... otherwise just drink the rest! I always enjoy the gardens leftovers lol
 

Greenthumbs256

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nice work man! coconut water looks good to me! 1/4c per gallon, good for stocky, slow vegging plants, and good for just a couple applications in the first 4 weeks of flower.... just make sure when you open one, if you need to save it for later, freeze it... otherwise just drink the rest! I always enjoy the gardens leftovers lol
Thanks a ton buddy! I was wondering about mixing it with em1 that I just finished activating? Or is that going overboard and I should stick to the a Lil aloe and coconut!
 

Greenthumbs256

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nice work man! coconut water looks good to me! 1/4c per gallon, good for stocky, slow vegging plants, and good for just a couple applications in the first 4 weeks of flower.... just make sure when you open one, if you need to save it for later, freeze it... otherwise just drink the rest! I always enjoy the gardens leftovers lol
So that open and freeze is a must but one unopened bottle can be sitting on the table for a few weeks?
 

kratos015

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I know you said stuff not used in a bottle, but you should look into Fish Emulsion for veg and Hydrolysate for flower. Both work quite well and work wonders for me while I wait for my top dress to kick in.

+1 on the coconut water as well. Amazing stuff, especially in veg.
 

farmerfischer

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Here's acouple more ideas.. Fish emulsion 5. 1.1. or rabbit poop tea works great for veg.. the fish emulsion will stink up the grow room abit but Rabbit poo tea doesn't have much smell if it's used right away..
 
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