Is Organics lacking? Bottles needed?

greasemonkeymann

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My girl helps me trim , transplant, make plans to grow, reclaim our outdoor garden each year , plant outdoors and helps me till. Nothing like having someone that likes to do the same things you do, I don't think I could do this without her, she gives me the motivation to do this, without my girl I am really unmotivated.
she got a cute friend/sister/cousin/young mother?
 

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cannakis

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Are bottles needed? Sometimes, maybe a little, if your soil didn't turn out to be baller enough. It doesn't make you a bad person, as some in the organics section might have you believe. Life is full of nuance, the devil is in the details, a stitch in time makes Einstein roll in his grave, but I digress.

OP, it seems you have been weirdly miseducated, you're asking for advice then arguing with people who give it; I find that really odd.

You could learn a lesson from @Olive Drab Green - he has the grace to admit when he could be wrong/misinformed and gain new insights based on new information. I feel you're a bit too proud for that right now.

P.S. Bernie is a constitutionalist. He swears an oath, every time he takes public office, to defend the Constitution. He's one on a very short list of people who I feel can be trusted to uphold their oaths. ;)
Hahaha Bernie a Constituntionist!?!!! Hahaha that made me laugh and Immediately respond.!

That's saying fucking Clinton, or Bush, or Obama or Almost ANY POLITICIAN that "swears the oath", NONE of them are Statesmen here to Serve the State. And the ones that are like Cynthia McKenny are run out of office by Big Money thrown against the True Servants to replace them with a Pawn.

Sanders IS A SOCIALIST. He admits it. He is Not a Constitutionist. Look up what the Real Constitutionist Party stands for. He is a Marxist. Just like All of them.

All Heil the state! All Heil the state!!!

While it USED to be All Heil THE CREATOR and SAVIOR.! And before you say separation of church and state I Advise you to look at the MULTITUDE of Proclamations of Prayer and Fasting declared BY THE GOVERNMENT.!!!!
 

cannakis

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Here's the big question, have YOU ever grown any garden crops? I'm thinking no, because of the nature of your questions. MJ is stupid simple compared to some food crops.

For all this talk about sourcing locally and making your own you sure do buy a lot of pre made stuff and bottles. I think I have 3 bottles, 1 of BT concentrate, 1 of Safers soap concentrate and 1 of ProTect. No nutes of any form other than 50lb bags.

Have never bought a bagged soil either, not in 44 years of making my own mixes. Never saw the need since I could do it both better and cheaper. Plus I make ~10cf of fresh mix every year in addition to what gets recycled and bagged mixes would quickly make me broke. 90%+ of this is used for food crops.

The lack of a worm bin is the most telling to a lack of commitment though. There is simply no excuse for not having one since all you need is ~3sf in a corner somewhere. A compost pile and comfrey bed are the other 2 biggies, but must be done outside and not everyone has a yard.

Skip a trip to the hydro shop and use the $$$ to set up a bin. It will be the best thing you could do for your plants.

Wet
Hahaha yes I have for Four years now. I have turned a wasteland of sand into a thriving little garden. I use classical husbandry and do Not use Anything besides local manure in my garden, besides the Animal Pesticide to keep these damn starving deer and birds away.!

As for the inside, Yes you are completely right I Do Need a worm bin and it has been laziness on my part. But I can/have also purchased worm castings, I'm supporting others when I do this.

You say I'm buying all these nutes when Yes I Am because I have admitted to it in the past day, but for the past Year and a Half its been Pure Tee my own soil mix, All locally sourced besides the humic and fulvic acid and neem oh and Mycos; but my friend You Are buying bottles as you admitted! I didn't even use bottles AT ALL the only bottles I used was Braggs ACV to lower pH and DrBronners Hemp Soap for Foliar pesticide spray. You're using ProTech BT and Safera, I bet these are all Commercial Gardening supplies aren't they.!?

I'm trying to say that Big Time growers ones who Supply the REAL DEMAND NOT just your own head in a Cabinet, make their own soil AND use Nutrients.! And I'm done with being just a Hobby Weekend Warrior
 

cannakis

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Not according to my wife. LOL

Wet
Funny
For someone on "ignore" I still got to ya;)...
Ucla is a quack school to begin with! That looks like a kid wrote the page on Geocites...
I'm not saying there's not strains that are different, Lettuces have Light to Dark colors depending on variety, tomatoes Light to Dark on fruit.

But I can Attest to my own experience if you grew the SAME variety of cabbage or tomato in two different spots on shades and one not the Leaves are Twice as big and Fuller color than a Wimpy Stringy one in the shade. I learned first hand because I DO QUESTIOM everything! And I learned real quick to Not put this here but Do out that there.
If you have to add nutrients during flower your mix isn't correct, this guy isn't a great organic farmer, hes using old organic techniques, where are the sprouted seed teas and other sources of enzymes, I wouldn't suggest using extra liquid nutrients to any of my grow, its just not going to come out as good as a properly mixed soil that has a couple SSTs and maybe 1 or 2 ACTs, but never a AACT if you need AACTs then it means you didn't make your soil correct.
Well what you quoted was from the BioBizz site... Not the post about Alan.
Yeah, but it'll be fine, right?
Yes it's DEFINITELY fine stop listening to these lemmings. You see how All the ones arguing with me Went straight to you saying too much nitrogen. If it was too much you would have burning intensely on all the leaves up to the tip.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Funny

For someone on "ignore" I still got to ya;)...
Ucla is a quack school to begin with! That looks like a kid wrote the page on Geocites...
I'm not saying there's not strains that are different, Lettuces have Light to Dark colors depending on variety, tomatoes Light to Dark on fruit.

But I can Attest to my own experience if you grew the SAME variety of cabbage or tomato in two different spots on shades and one not the Leaves are Twice as big and Fuller color than a Wimpy Stringy one in the shade. I learned first hand because I DO QUESTIOM everything! And I learned real quick to Not put this here but Do out that there.

Well what you quoted was from the BioBizz site... Not the post about Alan.

Yes it's DEFINITELY fine stop listening to these lemmings. You see how All the ones arguing with me Went straight to you saying too much nitrogen. If it was too much you would have burning intensely on all the leaves up to the tip.
ok question everything?
aren't you religious???
hmmmm.....
and I took you OFF ignore because after a while, felt sorry for you.
and we are all lemmings.. sure buddy.
UCLA is a quack school, criticizing the writing coming from you is damn laughable...
I am wrong, and we are all lemmings...
only like 50yrs plus, of exp, of the people trying to help you
keep pushing me and we'll go through your posts systematically to show how ignorant you truly are.
It's allll there for public record.
and mmmmmm....manure and animal pesticides...
bet your veggies taste wonderful.
 

Olive Drab Green

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ok question everything?
aren't you religious???
hmmmm.....
and I took you OFF ignore because after a while, felt sorry for you.
and we are all lemmings.. sure buddy.
UCLA is a quack school, criticizing the writing coming from you is damn laughable...
I am wrong, and we are all lemmings...
only like 50yrs plus, of exp, of the people trying to help you
keep pushing me and we'll go through your posts systematically to show how ignorant you truly are.
It's allll there for public record.
and mmmmmm....manure and animal pesticides...
bet your veggies taste wonderful.
A bit off-topic, but Jesus, man, how old are you?
 

greasemonkeymann

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A bit off-topic, but Jesus, man, how old are you?
I was referring to the combined exp of wetdog and myself.
i'm 38
first grow was when I was 11
but I didn't grow anything good till like 17 or so, the first 4-5 yrs were just screwing around
then I got my non-remote industrial magnetic 400w MH
that thing was like 50 lbs, and put out an asston of heat..
but grew the BEST nugs I ever had, at the time.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I'm still waiting for someone to tell me which one was grown organic. ...same cutting,same size pots,Coots mix,
One got 20-20-20 & the other got compost teas...
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hmmmmmm... well if it's a trick question i'd guess the darker colored one is the organic one.
but if you were to ask me blindly i'd say the yellowing plant was.
but if those are the same strain, off the same donor?
that's a BIG difference man..
never seen that much of a difference just from the nutrients..
 

genuity

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hmmmmmm... well if it's a trick question i'd guess the darker colored one is the organic one.
but if you were to ask me blindly i'd say the yellowing plant was.
but if those are the same strain, off the same donor?
that's a BIG difference man..
never seen that much of a difference just from the nutrients..
Yup,same everything. ..all but the nutrients.

Yes sir...the dark one is the organic one.

I'm still trying to find out what made them so dark...
The genetics are (gsc x mendobreath) so I know it has color in it,but damn..

Xtream tea compost brew is what I use...I need to dig deeper in to them..
 

cannakis

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ok question everything?
aren't you religious???
hmmmm.....
and I took you OFF ignore because after a while, felt sorry for you.
and we are all lemmings.. sure buddy.
UCLA is a quack school, criticizing the writing coming from you is damn laughable...
I am wrong, and we are all lemmings...
only like 50yrs plus, of exp, of the people trying to help you
keep pushing me and we'll go through your posts systematically to show how ignorant you truly are.
It's allll there for public record.
and mmmmmm....manure and animal pesticides...
bet your veggies taste wonderful.
Well actually I haven't gotten to eaten much vegetables because fucking everything eats it before I do! That's why this year I decided against the pure organic pesticide, and got something that actually works. Haha and I'm not spraying it on it directly, but for you I will haha just kidding brother!

And you do know Cow Manure is used and has been for Thousands of years in India as an Antiseptic!?!!! Grass Cow Manure is one of the greatest components of this earth. It grows the Best plants if you cute it right and use Nothing else but the dried cured cow manure.

Haha but you are funny and right. Just please don't pull out my history and what I preach... Don't preach to me what I preach to you! And no I'm Not religious, I'm a Servant of JESUS CHRIST, I do NOT follow mans rules and rituals, yet only Love GOD and Love others.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me which one was grown organic. ...same cutting,same size pots,Coots mix,
One got 20-20-20 & the other got compost teas...
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Yeah I didn't see this... I want to know I want to know!!!!?!!

Haha ole Genuity stalking in the background...
 

cannakis

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Yup,same everything. ..all but the nutrients.

Yes sir...the dark one is the organic one.

I'm still trying to find out what made them so dark...
The genetics are (gsc x mendobreath) so I know it has color in it,but damn..

Xtream tea compost brew is what I use...I need to dig deeper in to them..
See my soil dig fucking GREAT with GGGs gratefulxblue and Crocketts confidential... Nice dark vibrant colors... Then the fucking moonshine haze fucked me up and got me on this nutrient kick...
 

genuity

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See my soil dig fucking GREAT with GGGs gratefulxblue and Crocketts confidential... Nice dark vibrant colors... Then the fucking moonshine haze fucked me up and got me on this nutrient kick...
Sounds like that haze needed a generous amount of EWC top dress, and kelp/fish blast in its life.
 
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